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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#241 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:21 am

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Braggins wrote:Am I really the only one that thinks Winslow is a much better fit than Kaminsky? I cannot imagine us getting away with starting Kaminsky next to Al and our second unit is already stacked with shooting but severely lacking in defense. Which of these lineups is better, 1: Roberts/Lamb/Winslow/Hawes/Biz, 2: Roberts/Lamb/Hairston/Kaminsky/Hawes? I think the first lineup is better by leaps and bounds. The 2nd lineup is flat out embarrassing in my opinion, especially if we use Marv instead of Hairston at SF.


You know I do too Braggins.

Cho is a moron.

I have defended him a lot over the last couple years, but this is just outrageous in my opinion. I went from a Cho supporter up until last season, to being on the fence, to straight up wanting him gone.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#242 » by JDR720 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:22 am

there is no way Frank is better than Winslow, Winslow IMO was almost a cant miss prospect the only reason he fell was concerns with shooting. Frank is low upside, low floor (if he cant guard anything, then he will be a net negative)
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#243 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:22 am

I was arguably Cho's biggest supporter until 2 days ago.

He can GTFO and put his supercomputer in the cardboard box on the way out.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#244 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:24 am

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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#245 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:26 am

This guy cannot move defensively. My Lord. Still baffled.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#246 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:27 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:
Winslow is a bad fit, terrible fit, I actually think Frank fits better especially if Biyombo is let go.

He could have been Mkgs back up for the year while developing his jump shot and insurance and in case batum buggers off.

Curious why you thought he was a terrible fit.


Im just being positive. I wanted Winslow badly. Seeing him there at 9... And us not pick him.. Disgusted me.

Although I always thought he was going to be a good player, I was basically indifferent to Winslow due to his fit with us, but after we made all those trades and I looked at how our roster was balanced he really stood out as someone that would be a fantastic pick for us. He fell and was clearly best player available... I really don't understand how we could have passed on him. It really is disgusting. I guess I'll just keep hoping we have some trades lined up that make sense of it.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#247 » by JDR720 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:29 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:This guy cannot move defensively. My Lord. Still baffled.


he is a defensive tweener, not big/strong enough to guard C and not athletic enough to guard PF.

if he and hawes are the 2nd unit bigs.....good lord. we have to keep Biz or our 2nd unit alone will give up 100ppg
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Post#248 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:29 am

I really wish we knew how much Jordan was behind this. I'm not trying to make an excuse for Cho, but I'm curious. He seems like Clifford guy as well so it might have just been a perfect storm of idiocy in our front office coming together to make this happen. I really feel like we have one of the worst combinations of owner, gm, and coach, in the entire league.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#249 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:33 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:This guy cannot move defensively. My Lord. Still baffled.


he is a defensive tweener, not big/strong enough to guard C and not athletic enough to guard PF.

if he and hawes are the 2nd unit bigs.....good lord. we have to keep Biz or our 2nd unit alone will give up 100ppg

Marv/Frank/Hawes second unit frontcourt is going to happen.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#250 » by KingCat » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:34 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:This guy cannot move defensively. My Lord. Still baffled.


he is a defensive tweener, not big/strong enough to guard C and not athletic enough to guard PF.

if he and hawes are the 2nd unit bigs.....good lord. we have to keep Biz or our 2nd unit alone will give up 100ppg

Marv/Frank/Hawes second unit frontcourt is going to happen.


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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#251 » by KingCat » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:37 am

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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#252 » by Braggins » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:40 am

We all spent like the last two months going over possible trades and all these different scenarios of how to maximize our talent in the draft. We get reports from Cho that we are exploring trading up and down and looking to take BPA. We hear multiple reports from the media about us wanting to trade up and down in various deals and being interested in guys like Mudiay, Hezonja, and Booker. Draft day comes and we stay at 9 and draft Frank Kaminsky... I seriously can't stop laughing. Our front office was engaged in months of what was apparently smoke and mirrors and subterfuge, all to the end of staying put and drafting Frank Kaminsky... This isn't a basketball franchise. It is some kind of new age performance art experiment put on by epic level trolls.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#253 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:40 am

People can blame this on Jordan, Cho, whatever. But Clifford has specifically said in the past that if you have a dominant center ( Jefferson, or so he thinks) you surround him with shooters. Its the SVG way. Jefferson is his Howard, and Frank is his Ryan Anderson. Tough to swallow, but its the truth.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#254 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:40 am

Danny Ferry would be too perfect.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#256 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:42 am

Braggins wrote:We all spent like the last two months going over possible trades and all these different scenarios of how to maximize our talent in the draft. We get reports from Cho that we are exploring trading up and down and looking to take BPA. We hear multiple reports from the media about us wanting to trade up and down in various deals and being interested in guys like Mudiay, Hezonja, and Booker. Draft day comes and we stay at 9 and draft Frank Kaminsky... I seriously can't stop laughing. We were engaged in months of smoke and mirrors and subterfuge to the end of staying put and drafting Frank Kaminsky... This isn't a basketball franchise. It is some kind of new age performance art experiment put on by epic level trolls.


We need to blow it up.

Literally blow it up with some C4 or some ****
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#257 » by JDR720 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:42 am

Braggins wrote:We all spent like the last two months going over possible trades and all these different scenarios of how to maximize our talent in the draft. We get reports from Cho that we are exploring trading up and down and looking to take BPA. We hear multiple reports from the media about us wanting to trade up and down in various deals and being interested in guys like Mudiay, Hezonja, and Booker. Draft day comes and we stay at 9 and draft Frank Kaminsky... I seriously can't stop laughing. We were engaged in months of smoke and mirrors and subterfuge to the end of staying put and drafting Frank Kaminsky... This isn't a basketball franchise. It is some kind of new age performance art experiment put on by epic level trolls.



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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#258 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:43 am

This is a Clifford pick more than anything. Thats why we have drafted a supposed stretch 4 3 years in a freaking row.

Stretch 4's are a big time ordeal in the NBA right now, but damn we reached on one who absolutely cannot defend a broken down car. At least Zeller has the athleticism to be a great perimeter defender and guard the Nowitzkis, Aldridges, etc. Frank is nothing more thana better Hawes at the center spot. Something we did not need.
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#259 » by Elden Payton » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:45 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:This is a Clifford pick more than anything. Thats why we have drafted a supposed stretch 4 3 years in a freaking row.

Stretch 4's are a big time ordeal in the NBA right now, but damn we reached on one who absolutely cannot defend a broken down car. At least Zeller has the athleticism to be a great perimeter defender and guard the Nowitzkis, Aldridges, etc. Frank is nothing more thana better Hawes at the center spot. Something we did not need.


Clifford needs to go.

Who's chucking in for the contract?
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Re: "Flat Out Boring": The Frank Kaminsky Thread 

Post#260 » by KingCat » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:45 am

I would want the removal of MJ as owner, but i feel he is the only one loyal enough to NC to keep them here. I really dont want a repeat of the Hornets leaving town
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