Fake Trade Thread

[MasterIchiro]

Yoooo we’re talking about Kawhi Leonard. I love Kemba but Kawhi is on another tier. We would instantly become one of the best teams in the East, especially if Monk continues to emerge. Monk-Lamb-Kawhi would be a killer 1-2-3

The only problem I have with Kawhi is that apparently he’s getting lowballed by shoe companies and thinks going to a bigger market would solve that. If he wants to leave an organization like San Antonio, dude’s going to bounce out of here ASAP

Monk is not ready to run a team at PG like Kemba. Kawhi would bounce for sure. And you can make a strong case that Monk's talent can be maximized sharing the backcourt with Kemba and playing off-ball.

A Kemba - Kawhi trade is counterproductive.

[MasterIchiro]

Cavs might draft Trae Young, making him the PG of the future regardless of LeBron. If he is selected I wonder if the Cavs would listen on Jordan Clarkson?

[LofJ]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7035898

Cha Out: Howard and Williams
Cha In: Vucevic, Ross, and Powell

Dal Out: Barnes and Powell
Dal In: Biyombo and Williams

Orl Out: Biyombo, Vucevic, Ross
Orl In: Howard and Barnes

Kemba/Monk
Ross/Lamb
Batum/MKG
Zeller/Powell
Kaminsky/Vucevic
Reserves: Bacon, Hernangomez, 2018 11th

What do you guys think?

[JDR720]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7035898

Cha Out: Howard and Williams
Cha In: Vucevic, Ross, and Powell

Dal Out: Barnes and Powell
Dal In: Biyombo and Williams

Orl Out: Biyombo, Vucevic, Ross
Orl In: Howard and Barnes

Kemba/Monk
Ross/Lamb
Batum/MKG
Zeller/Powell
Kaminsky/Vucevic
Reserves: Bacon, Hernangomez, 2018 11th

What do you guys think?

Dallas wont trade Barnes for that.

Also Ross is a bit redundant here with Lamb and Monk.

[LofJ]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7035898

Cha Out: Howard and Williams
Cha In: Vucevic, Ross, and Powell

Dal Out: Barnes and Powell
Dal In: Biyombo and Williams

Orl Out: Biyombo, Vucevic, Ross
Orl In: Howard and Barnes

Kemba/Monk
Ross/Lamb
Batum/MKG
Zeller/Powell
Kaminsky/Vucevic
Reserves: Bacon, Hernangomez, 2018 11th

What do you guys think?

Dallas wont trade Barnes for that.

Also Ross is a bit redundant here with Lamb and Monk.

Dallas is tanking and Barnes isn't part of the long-term plan. Biyombo is also the prototype center that Carlisle likes.

Ross is redundant, but he's an expiring wing that can shoot. We'd have the flexibility to move MKG as well if another trade opportunity came about.

[MasterIchiro]

Grizz Get:
Batum (3 years)
Marvin (2 years)

Hornets Get:
Parsons (2 years)
Green (1 year)

Grizz are up against the cap and not getting production from Parsons while saddled with big contracts to Gasol and Conley. They'd have Gasol + Conley + Batum + Marvin + top 3 pick.

Hornets get out from Batum money one year early get out of Marvin money one year early.

[BuzzCity]

I get nobody wants to go thru another rebuild, trust me. But the alternative is ultimately resigning Kemba for $25mill+ after next year...that just seems crazy to me. We’d be in even more cap hell with most likely no ways to improve the roster.

And all this Kawhi talk is pipedream stuff. Only way we have a remote possibility to not rebuild is if we land the #1 pick. But we all know our luck with that.

So let the rebuilding begin! This treadmill team is beyond garbage

[BuzzCity]

Grizz Get:
Batum (3 years)
Marvin (2 years)

Hornets Get:
Parsons (2 years)
Green (1 year)

Grizz are up against the cap and not getting production from Parsons while saddled with big contracts to Gasol and Conley. They'd have Gasol + Conley + Batum + Marvin + top 3 pick.

Hornets get out from Batum money one year early get out of Marvin money one year early.

I don’t see the Grizz wanting to do that. If u thought they were already saddled with big contracts, it just got much worse.

[MasterIchiro]

The Grizz will have to choose. Do they want to be a capped out bad team or a capped out team that's not as bad?

[Benjamin Linus]

~$25 million for Kemba isn't that bad considering John Wall will be making $47 million in 2022-23

[stinger14]

I keep trying to find ways to improve this roster and not rebuild, and yes I believe there are ways to slightly improve. However, the fact is that I don't see a way to be a true contender, and just making the playoffs is not my vision. Unless Mitch can perform miracles, it is looking as if a rebuild is best. I love Kemba, and it saddens me to think this way, but if we can get a top 8 pick for him, it would be tough to turn it down. If we can get into the top 6, no question we have to pull the trigger. Then I want a full out chance at the first pick next year in the draft. RJ Barrett is an absolute superstar in the making. He is 6' 6" and is a tremendous athlete who can score in every possible way. He is also a great playmaker for his teammates. I believe he is one of those generational talents that can change a franchise instantly.

As for pick 11 this year, I think you set up a potential trade and see who is available when it's time to pick. If there is a player you think can be a starter and help kickstart the rebuild, then draft him. If not, pull the trigger on your trade.

[MasterIchiro]

~$25 million for Kemba isn't that bad considering John Wall will be making $47 million in 2022-23

Conley makes 28. Grab Kemba at 25 and don't look back.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I keep trying to find ways to improve this roster and not rebuild, and yes I believe there are ways to slightly improve.

The Rockets got where they are today by making small moves the didn't lead to being a contender directly, but those small moves added up to later moves that did. It's better to start making small improvements now so that you can be in position to make bigger improvements later.

Here's a small example that I've posted elsewhere. Trade MKG to Chicago for Robin Lopez. That gives them another young guy for a center who isn't in their long term plans. Then Charlotte is able to trade Howard, and potentially Zeller as well.

Howard's deal expiring is big, but if MJ is willing to eat the tax for a year then it might be worthwhile to trade him to a team that wants cap relief. The ideal scenario would be if Lebron leaves the Cavs then Howard might be part of a package for Love. But there are other possibilities. Howard to the Clips for Gallinari and maybe Pactric Beverly. Then there are teams that might want an upgrade at center like the Bucks where a deal, even if it's a 3 way, might be worked out.

[stinger14]

I keep trying to find ways to improve this roster and not rebuild, and yes I believe there are ways to slightly improve.

The Rockets got where they are today by making small moves the didn't lead to being a contender directly, but those small moves added up to later moves that did. It's better to start making small improvements now so that you can be in position to make bigger improvements later.

Here's a small example that I've posted elsewhere. Trade MKG to Chicago for Robin Lopez. That gives them another young guy for a center who isn't in their long term plans. Then Charlotte is able to trade Howard, and potentially Zeller as well.

Howard's deal expiring is big, but if MJ is willing to eat the tax for a year then it might be worthwhile to trade him to a team that wants cap relief. The ideal scenario would be if Lebron leaves the Cavs then Howard might be part of a package for Love. But there are other possibilities. Howard to the Clips for Gallinari and maybe Pactric Beverly. Then there are teams that might want an upgrade at center like the Bucks where a deal, even if it's a 3 way, might be worked out.

So do you think that a James Harden or Chris Paul is going to sign here? Do you think we have what it takes to trade for guys of that caliber?

[MasterIchiro]

Trade MKG to Chicago for Robin Lopez. That gives them another young guy for a center who isn't in their long term plans...

Howard's deal expiring is big, but if MJ is willing to eat the tax for a year then it might be worthwhile to trade him to a team that wants cap relief. Howard to the Clips for Gallinari and maybe Pactric Beverly.

I love the idea of acquiring Lopez for MKG and flipping Howard to the Clippers for Gallinari + Beverly.

Kemba - Beverly
Lamb - Monk
Gallinari - Batum
Kaminsky - Marvin
Zeller - Lopez - Hernangomez

That is a much better fitting team. Moving Gallinari fits the recent pattern the Clippers have shown dumping star players for picks and cap.

[MasterIchiro]

Damn just realized Gallinari can't shoot. Below 40% from the floor and below 33% from 3. I'd much rather substitute Tobias Harris in that deal but then why would the Clippers do it? Harris is expiring so Howard's expiring holds no value as cap relief.

No on Gallinari.

[stinger14]

Damn just realized Gallinari can't shoot. Below 40% from the floor and below 33% from 3. I'd much rather substitute Tobias Harris in that deal but then why would the Clippers do it? Harris is expiring so Howard's expiring holds no value as cap relief.

No on Gallinari.

Was about to post something similar, not to mention he cannot stay healthy

[MasterIchiro]

Substitute Harris but that costs pick 11

Kemba - Beverly
Lamb - Monk
Harris - Batum
Kaminsky - Marvin
Zeller - Lopez - Hernangomez

I don't see how you retain Kemba unless you let Harris expire, thereby trading pick 11 for one year of Harris. Damn, Clippers aren't a suitable partner for Dwight.

[MasterIchiro]

It brings me back to Dwight's expiring having the most value to the Hornets with Kemba's looking free agency. I still favor attaching pick 11 in order to move MKG, our worst fitting talent.

[stinger14]

Substitute Harris but that costs pick 11

Kemba - Beverly
Lamb - Monk
Harris - Batum
Kaminsky - Marvin
Zeller - Lopez - Hernangomez

I don't see how you retain Kemba unless you let Harris expire, thereby trading pick 11 for one year of Harris. Damn, Clippers aren't a suitable partner for Dwight.

Dwight also would be a bench player behind Jordan, Clippers probably wouldn't want to deal with his attitude if they made him a bench player