2020 Pre-Draft Discussion
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there's no clear #1 in this draft this year anyways. no singular guy that its all or nothing for so there's no real reason to worry about exactly how much we'll suck.
we're bad, but we're not delusional about how good we could be with a few shortcuts here and there.
we're bad, but we're not delusional about how good we could be with a few shortcuts here and there.
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DY_nasty wrote:there's no clear #1 in this draft this year anyways. no singular guy that its all or nothing for so there's no real reason to worry about exactly how much we'll suck.
we're bad, but we're not delusional about how good we could be with a few shortcuts here and there.
Agreed. We are a young, competitive fun team that is devoid of superstars, all-stars or any talented players in their prime. We are all upside right now, with a ton of potential to compete very, very soon. A Wiseman or Edwards added to this roster this draft + an additional player added with a Devonte Graham type would be huge.
IMO, the worst days are behind us.
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BTW the Knicks and Wolves won tonight, so now we're sitting on the 4th-best lottery odds.
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Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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Top 4 would almost certainly get us Wiseman right?
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So I’ve lived right beside Penn State’s campus all year and have regularly attended PSU games. I really this Lamar Stevens kid. He’s built like a linebacker and just super strong. Routinely takes the toughest defensive assignment. Tough to back down. Mid range game, playing in transition some of his offensive strengths. Really needs to add the three point shot to his arsenal. I’d love him as a second round pick up, especially if we could land him somewhere in the 42-50 range. Just someone to keep an eye as the season progresses.
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MugzZo wrote:Top 4 would almost certainly get us Wiseman right?
Wiseman and Edwards will be going top 2 I think.
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Best case scenario, we get one of the top 2 picks. If not that, hopefully Okongwu will be in our range. Edwards, Wiseman, and Okongwu all seem to have pretty decent upside. Don't feel great about other guys projected in the top ~7 and their fit on the team.
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316Hornets wrote:Best case scenario, we get one of the top 2 picks. If not that, hopefully Okongwu will be in our range. Edwards, Wiseman, and Okongwu all seem to have pretty decent upside. Don't feel great about other guys projected in the top ~7 and their fit on the team.
we're too bad to worry about fit

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DY_nasty wrote:316Hornets wrote:Best case scenario, we get one of the top 2 picks. If not that, hopefully Okongwu will be in our range. Edwards, Wiseman, and Okongwu all seem to have pretty decent upside. Don't feel great about other guys projected in the top ~7 and their fit on the team.
we're too bad to worry about fit
In that case, Lamelo Ball could be a solid pickup as well. He'd at least be entertaining and put some fans in seats.
I'm not so sure about the Deni Avdija guy. From the tape I've seen, he looks like a role player.
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Ball is so overrated, it's beyond ridiculous. And i pass on the drama for the franchise who will draft him and his whole family.
Hopefully the Cav's will go "Bennett" again and draft him, so the Hornets can get either Wiseman or Edwards. The good thing that if Cleveland draft Wiseman, i dont see why gsw would draft Edwards (they might bite on Toppin instead).
Hopefully the Cav's will go "Bennett" again and draft him, so the Hornets can get either Wiseman or Edwards. The good thing that if Cleveland draft Wiseman, i dont see why gsw would draft Edwards (they might bite on Toppin instead).
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I have warmed up more to Okongwu after watching some fun highlights of him. Looks like a less tall, but more polished version of Wiseman. I think Okongu's length and vertical allow him to play above his 6'9" height. I saw an interview with him where he said his height was closer to 6'10". Plus, at 19, he could technically still add an inch or two maybe....idk. I'd still take him at 6'9" if Wiseman/Edwards are gone.
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I think Killian Hayes belongs in top 4 discussion.
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It's pretty peak Charlotte to be looking at top 4 pick in a Draft that's considered the worst since the last year we tanked. (2012/2013, Zeller.)
Does LaMelo have the same issues with a busted shooting form / only being able to shoot going left as Lonzo?
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Seconded... There is really nobody to be excited about. Edwards would be a 6 to 10 pick most years. Wiseman is the real prize but he's hardly a proven commodity with his small sample size of games before he was suspended. Ball and Hampton's efficiency in Australia has been poor...unless we have a shot at Wiseman in the top 3, if be content trading down for another lotto pick next year and taking for another season.
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Hey guys whats up, it's been a while. Here is my latest DEPTH CHART. I have added in about 5 new players. Some mentioned here already. I have ranked them from BEST TO WORST at their respective positions.
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POINT GUARDS -
PG - RATED A
Arturs Zagars
Cole Anthony
Kira Lewis Jr.
PG - RATED B
PG - RATED C
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SHOOTING GUARDS -
SG - RATED A
Killian Hayes
Josh Green
LaMelo Ball
Ty-Shon Alexander
Tom Digbeu
James Bouknight
Aaron Nesmith - JUST ADDED
SG - RATED B
Jahmi’us Ramsey - JUST ADDED
Malcolm Cazalon
Bryan Antoine
A.J. Reeves
Gabe Kalscheur - JUST ADDED
Joshua Obeisie
Ayo Dosunmu
Justin Turner
Chris Ledlum
Kellan Grady
Quentin Grimes
Samuell Williamson
John Petty
SG - RATED C
Tyler Bey
A.J Lawson,
Isaiah Joe
Sam Cunliffe
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SMALL FORWARDS -
SF - RATED A
Precious Achiuwa
C.J. Elleby
Trendon Watford
Johnny Juzang
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Emmitt Matthews Jr.
Jeremiah Davenport
SF - RATED B
SF - RATED C
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POWER FORWARDS -
PF - RATED A
Obi Toppin - JUST ADDED
Onyeka Okongwu - JUST ADDED
Amar Sylla
Filip Petrusev
Kai Jones
PF - RATED B
PF - RATED C
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CENTERS -
C - RATED A
Daniel Oturu - JUST ADDED
Zeke Nnaji - JUST ADDED
Will Baker
Neemias Queta
Charles Bassey
Ikey Obiagu
Javin DeLaurier
Kerry Blackshear Jr.
C - RATED B
C - RATED C
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POINT GUARDS -
PG - RATED A
Arturs Zagars
Cole Anthony
Kira Lewis Jr.
PG - RATED B
PG - RATED C
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SHOOTING GUARDS -
SG - RATED A
Killian Hayes
Josh Green
LaMelo Ball
Ty-Shon Alexander
Tom Digbeu
James Bouknight
Aaron Nesmith - JUST ADDED
SG - RATED B
Jahmi’us Ramsey - JUST ADDED
Malcolm Cazalon
Bryan Antoine
A.J. Reeves
Gabe Kalscheur - JUST ADDED
Joshua Obeisie
Ayo Dosunmu
Justin Turner
Chris Ledlum
Kellan Grady
Quentin Grimes
Samuell Williamson
John Petty
SG - RATED C
Tyler Bey
A.J Lawson,
Isaiah Joe
Sam Cunliffe
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SMALL FORWARDS -
SF - RATED A
Precious Achiuwa
C.J. Elleby
Trendon Watford
Johnny Juzang
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Emmitt Matthews Jr.
Jeremiah Davenport
SF - RATED B
SF - RATED C
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POWER FORWARDS -
PF - RATED A
Obi Toppin - JUST ADDED
Onyeka Okongwu - JUST ADDED
Amar Sylla
Filip Petrusev
Kai Jones
PF - RATED B
PF - RATED C
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CENTERS -
C - RATED A
Daniel Oturu - JUST ADDED
Zeke Nnaji - JUST ADDED
Will Baker
Neemias Queta
Charles Bassey
Ikey Obiagu
Javin DeLaurier
Kerry Blackshear Jr.
C - RATED B
C - RATED C
UPDATED 7-5-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
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chellis wrote:So I’ve lived right beside Penn State’s campus all year and have regularly attended PSU games. I really this Lamar Stevens kid. He’s built like a linebacker and just super strong. Routinely takes the toughest defensive assignment. Tough to back down. Mid range game, playing in transition some of his offensive strengths. Really needs to add the three point shot to his arsenal. I’d love him as a second round pick up, especially if we could land him somewhere in the 42-50 range. Just someone to keep an eye as the season progresses.
Thanks for the UPDATE. Because of you I am also a fan of his. I will add him in my next chart. He has ability to be a good player. He has everything I like in a player but with edge.
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These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
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@UNCNYC what about Vernon Carey Jr? appears to be great combination of size mobility and explosiveness
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Any reason Wiseman and Carey are omitted from center rankings?
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The reason why no rankings of any dook players is because of out of superstition I have not watched any of their games this
season.
The reason why is because when UNC plays dook my nerves are always at an all time high and I am trying to see if I can know
as little about them as possible if that will help calm them a bit.
It has worked a tad bit but not that much haha.
I know about their whole roster (including the goldwires) but I do not want to over study them (as I have in the past) for
this bizarre reason.
As for Wiseman. I think he's solid but I left him out because I did not want him for our number 1 because most overhyped
CENTERS have become just that lately. He seems to fit the bill.
I think guys like Daniel Oturu, Obiagu and although undersized a bit for center Okongwu could be just as good as an option later.
Or even jericho sims (who I thought I added but didn't but will again).
season.
The reason why is because when UNC plays dook my nerves are always at an all time high and I am trying to see if I can know
as little about them as possible if that will help calm them a bit.
It has worked a tad bit but not that much haha.
I know about their whole roster (including the goldwires) but I do not want to over study them (as I have in the past) for
this bizarre reason.
As for Wiseman. I think he's solid but I left him out because I did not want him for our number 1 because most overhyped
CENTERS have become just that lately. He seems to fit the bill.
I think guys like Daniel Oturu, Obiagu and although undersized a bit for center Okongwu could be just as good as an option later.
Or even jericho sims (who I thought I added but didn't but will again).
UPDATED 7-5-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
These are who I want with our picks in order
Fears
Raynaud
Kam Jones
Taelon Peter - or Will Richard
Chase Hunter - summer league invite
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Snidely FC wrote:@UNCNYC what about Vernon Carey Jr? appears to be great combination of size mobility and explosiveness
I like how he isn't afraid of contact. Plays strong
