Offseason 2025 Thread

[fatlever]

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Gross. Plus I think the nba has a rule that you can only have one domestic abuser per roster.

[KembaWalker]

thats hilarious

[KingCat]

Bro how do trash players like Hayes even have sports betting centered around them?

[LofJ]

Bro how do trash players like Hayes even have sports betting centered around them?

People bet on everything these days, it's out of control.

[Bassman]

I noted the article from Hornets SI because they were quoting Pincis from Bleacher Report. I’m not advocating this, but I also don’t want this team di@&ing around if they aren’t committed. I think there is more interest in Melo than we want to believe, since several quality NBA writers have indicated as much. Perhaps a bit more interest in Williams also. I hear nothing about teams wanting to explore trades for Miles, so pretty convinced he’s not going anywhere.

The Clippers thing for Melo will be on the front burner until it’s not. Lavar and his brother have both harped about getting them there. Clippers have no assets we’d want, so they would have to find another team to facilitate. Not likely at all IMO. But Houston is said to want a star quality PG with VanVleet coming off the books.

I know this is the offseason thread so won’t continue specific trade ideas, but this offseason will be about trades in the NBA. Only one team with any real cap space, and not many free agents of impact, so trades are the way to make things happen.

[SWedd523]

Bro how do trash players like Hayes even have sports betting centered around them?

A really popular bet right now is for Angel Reese to miss her first shot attempt of every game

[fatlever]

Bro how do trash players like Hayes even have sports betting centered around them?

A really popular bet right now is for Angel Reese to miss her first shot attempt of every game

I saw something funny. granted I haven't watched a single minute of wmba basketball since the sting left Charlotte. But obviously my algorithm still loves shoving basketball content down my throat so I get Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese **** all the time. And someone said that's like comparing Steph Curry to Andre Drummond.

[JMAC3]

Until Jeff Peterson makes a move that shows he is serious about winning and putting a good team around LaMelo the media is always going to be whispering about how we should trade LaMelo. Notice how there is never a plan for how that actually helps Charlotte, but more so always just get LaMelo somewhere more entertaining.

The 5 moves Peterson has made since officially taking over.
1. Extending Miles Bridges 3/75
2. Drafting Saluan 6th.
3. Trading a 2nd for Josh Green on 3/41 contract
4. Trading Mark Williams for Knecht, Reddish 2031 first, 2030 swap-- trade recinded and trashed Mark value
5. Traded Martin, Micic 2nd for Nurkic and 2026 first

Which of these moves was his best move? Which of these moves shows he wants to win?

[GiggitySmalls]

Offseason wet dream. Get Naz Reid in Charlotte.

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[JustBuzzin]

People saying it would be foolish trading LaMelo.

I say it would be foolish to keep him as well. Not like he can stay healthy. We get a extremely talented player for 40 games. Is that how we really want build this team moving forward.

Every season it's the same excuse This Is His Prove It Year!

Every season that narrative starts again like the last season wasn't his prove it year.

I honestly don't care if we keep or trade LaMelo. But to act like trading him sets us back is crazy. We haven't won at all in the LaMelo era. We are not losing anything by trading LaMelo. If anything we gain a healthy body in return.

[JMAC3]

People saying it would be foolish trading LaMelo.

I say it would be foolish to keep him as well. Not like he can stay healthy. We get a extremely talented player for 40 games. Is that how we really want build this team moving forward.

Every season it's the same excuse This Is His Prove It Year!

Every season that narrative starts again like the last season wasn't his prove it year.

I honestly don't care if we keep or trade LaMelo. But to act like trading him sets us back is crazy. We haven't won at all in the LaMelo era. We are not losing anything by trading LaMelo. If anything we gain a healthy body in return.

I would say you are pretty big on trading LaMelo at this point, which is fine. What are 5 trades you would actually consider for LaMelo that are realistic?

[JustBuzzin]

People saying it would be foolish trading LaMelo.

I say it would be foolish to keep him as well. Not like he can stay healthy. We get a extremely talented player for 40 games. Is that how we really want build this team moving forward.

Every season it's the same excuse This Is His Prove It Year!

Every season that narrative starts again like the last season wasn't his prove it year.

I honestly don't care if we keep or trade LaMelo. But to act like trading him sets us back is crazy. We haven't won at all in the LaMelo era. We are not losing anything by trading LaMelo. If anything we gain a healthy body in return.

I would say you are pretty big on trading LaMelo at this point, which is fine. What are 5 trades you would actually consider for LaMelo that are realistic?

I don't really care either way. I'm just tired of the we can't trade Melo because his value is low.

Well his value is low because he simply can't stay healthy. Either way we are not getting equal value.

Keep Melo- What good is that we only have him for 40 games.

Trade Melo- We won't get a equal talent back so we don't win in that scenario either.

So it is what it is with Melo. I don't particularly care either way. I'm going to continue to root for him if he's a Hornets. That's not going to change.

[yosemiteben]

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Gross. Plus I think the nba has a rule that you can only have one domestic abuser per roster.

We already have Nurk, Mark, and Moussa. Are we really spending MLE money signing Hayes?

I guess those odds are just a proxy for odds that we trade Mark for a non-center and then need to sign one. If we're chasing a FA center, I'd prefer to throw the full MLE at Looney.

[JDR720]

The Hayes thing probably has to do with Mark. People think since the Lakers traded for Mark once, they'll trade for him again with even less value. And that less value is Hayes via sign and trade or something.

[fatlever]

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I didn't see this posted anywhere earlier. Obviously if this report is true then we already know they have no intention of trying to win next year. Which again begs the question, What is the point of paying your superstar $50 million a year if you have absolutely no interest in trying to put a team around him that can compete?

[fatlever]

I mean I think all of us knew this was the direction the team was taking this summer. And it's certainly painful as fans to have to endure this patient approach, which is probably the correct approach. And it's frustrating because this is what Mitch and Jordan should have done years ago. I'll never get over my anger at the front office under Mitch. Almost as bad as the Larry Brown years. Worse than thecho years, imo. Maybe even worse than the Rod Higgins. I mean it's crazy that Bernie Bickerstaff has the best gm this franchise has had since returning to Charlotte.

Anyway, as some one pointed out on Twitter oKC took this approach many years ago when they took on contracts like Chris Paul and Al Horford and then rehabbed their trade value and flipped them for a bunch more assets. I'm curious what players like that could end up in our lap? beal? Might even be something we can do with nurk, To a lesser extent.

[fatlever]

But at some point melo will stop being so agreeable and he'll either demand the front office put some players around him or he'll demand for a trade. I mean, we all know he's a happy go lucky don't rock the boat kind of dude but no way that lasts forever.

[Diop]

I mean I think all of us knew this was the direction the team was taking this summer. And it's certainly painful as fans to have to endure this patient approach, which is probably the correct approach. And it's frustrating because this is what Mitch and Jordan should have done years ago. I'll never get over my anger at the front office under Mitch.

that sums it up for me, this is what i wanted years ago which i have to keep reminding myself because it is frustrating as **** now.

if i took over a team I would probably approach the same way, but i hope they don't think that being out of the lottery next year would be a fail or a negative thing.

it isn't outrageous if everyone is healthy that Ball, Miller, Miles and Mark could have a winning season.
it feels like a miracle to hope for, but last time Ball played over 70 games we won 43 games. We add decent vets we could easily make it out of the lottery.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Signing Hayward (who seemed to actively avoid playing games under the guise of injury) to that terrible contract and as a result drafting Bouknought at pick 11 set this franchise back years. Incompetent decision.

[JDR720]

Missing on draft picks is what has messed us up the most.

2024: Saluan and KJ
2023: Miller, Smith Jr, Amari Bailey.
2022: Mark (the Duran trade)
2021: Bouknight, Kai.
2020: Melo
2019: PJ, Martin's, Jalen McDaniels.
2018 Miles (SGA trade)

Our best draft was 2019. Got players who turned out be be quality starters (PJ/Martin's) and someone who for us at least was a good bench player.

The most recent 4 drafts, we've got a grant total of 2 starter level players. One of them we just tried to trade, and both of them have missed tons of games due to injury.