Frank Kaminsky #2 - Not Extended (UFA)

[JMAC3]

You guys are seriously criticizing the team for not paying Kaminsky? Paying mediocre players in the past is why the team is in such a bad situation.

Frank at 4.5 million isn’t paying him... that’s a steal for any center in the league let alone one who can stretch the floor.




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[BlackOutBuzz]

This is interesting because if you're losing Kemba than you can conceivably keep Frank, especially at his QO. Think this points to them still operating under the assumption that Kemba will still be here... hope they're right.

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[LofJ]

You guys are seriously criticizing the team for not paying Kaminsky? Paying mediocre players in the past is why the team is in such a bad situation.

Frank at 4.5 million isn’t paying him... that’s a steal for any center in the league let alone one who can stretch the floor.




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I disagree, it's easy to find decent rotation big men for less than 5 million. Kaminsky didn't want to be here anyway, the team did him a favor.

[JMAC3]

You guys are seriously criticizing the team for not paying Kaminsky? Paying mediocre players in the past is why the team is in such a bad situation.

Frank at 4.5 million isn’t paying him... that’s a steal for any center in the league let alone one who can stretch the floor.




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I disagree, it's easy to find decent rotation big men for less than 5 million. Kaminsky didn't want to be here anyway, the team did him a favor.

Not to bring them to charlotte... maybe if you are golden state or lakers, but we have to overpay to get guys.


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[LofJ]

Frank at 4.5 million isn’t paying him... that’s a steal for any center in the league let alone one who can stretch the floor.




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I disagree, it's easy to find decent rotation big men for less than 5 million. Kaminsky didn't want to be here anyway, the team did him a favor.

Not to bring them to charlotte... maybe if you are golden state or lakers, but we have to overpay to get guys.


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Alex Len is better than Kaminsky and he signed for less than $5 million to play for a tanking team.

[JMAC3]

I disagree, it's easy to find decent rotation big men for less than 5 million. Kaminsky didn't want to be here anyway, the team did him a favor.

Not to bring them to charlotte... maybe if you are golden state or lakers, but we have to overpay to get guys.


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Alex Len is better than Kaminsky and he signed for less than $5 million to play for a tanking team.

I don’t agree he is better and he also signed with the chance of being a starter.


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[Rich4114]

Here's the think with Frank. He was literally almost released after the trade deadline last season. He also takes up a roster spot in the front court that we probably want to give to PJ. They also can't afford him (or Lamb) if Kemba actually does re-sign. And if Kemba doesn't re-sign, Frank isn't exactly going to continue to develop into something different from what he is. So I can see the decision making perfect sense.

One of the worst decisions of all time is not taking the Celtics deal. Even if a lot of the details involved in that are total BS (I believe they are) we knew what was happening with our roster/salary cap situation and punting on a late lotto pick for future assets would've added flexibility/security that we now wish we had. That Memphis pick is looking pretty decent.

[Great]

Hernangomez essentially can do what Kaminsky does, for less money.

Cheick Diallo’s athleticism, length, and shot blocking would make more sense for Kaminsky’s money or less.

They have to thin out the players who are near redundant in ability and skill.

[yosemiteben]

This is interesting because if you're losing Kemba than you can conceivably keep Frank, especially at his QO. Think this points to them still operating under the assumption that Kemba will still be here... hope they're right.

Yeah, my initial thought is this is good news with regard to Kemba. Although it was pretty obvious that this was coming when we drafted PJ.

I also think it's pretty clear now that Marv isn't getting traded for space, not that there was a super high probability of that happening.

[Chapelchilla]

Wow. Another kick to nads. Frank is going to sign with a team like MIL and make us look even more like idiots with his “sudden” improvement.
Dude should have been the starting center for us for the last 2 years and will probably put up 12/6 next season

[powerforward]

frank is better then willy but that really doesn't matter- I think frank will be decent and a valuable get for somebody.
But man we just stink at drafting never got the best player that we could have and never drafted bad enough to get real busts that keep us bad enough to keep getting high picks.

Instead of frank what would our team look like with myles turner or even better booker?
Much less how different would things be if we drafted kawhi or klay instead of biz?
Giannis instead of cody?
Beal or lillard instead of mkg?

[BigSlam]

Wow. Another kick to nads. Frank is going to sign with a team like MIL and make us look even more like idiots with his “sudden” improvement.
Dude should have been the starting center for us for the last 2 years and will probably put up 12/6 next season

But give up 28/14 to his opposing player.....

[fatlever]

Forgetting about the mistake made on draft night for a second, this is another example of why we need to be more ruthless with our young players. If a guy isn't developing after two or three years cut-bait and trade him for whatever you can.

Frank isn't in our long-term plans and he doesn't have any trade value. No real point in hanging on to him now, we already missed the opportunity to get value from him a year-and-a-half ago.

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[fatlever]

For example, I would give monk until about December to show that he's made a huge step forward in his progress. If not, I'd look to trade him for whatever, even if it was second round picks.

Not to derail the thread, if anybody wants to reply to that feel free to do it in the monk thread.

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[SWedd523]

Forgetting about the mistake made on draft night for a second, this is another example of why we need to be more ruthless with our young players. If a guy isn't developing after two or three years cut-bait and trade him for whatever you can.

Frank isn't in our long-term plans and he doesn't have any trade value. No real point in hanging on to him now, we already missed the opportunity to get value from him a year-and-a-half ago.

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Sticky this post at the top of every player thread. It can't be restated enough.

Too many people in here are reactive instead of proactive. Like four months ago Kaminsky was a bum and didn't need to be extended and blah blah.

Now they're idiots for not bringing him back.

They're idiots for not looking to trade him and his bird rights because they should've seen that he hadn't/wouldn't develop into a worthy starting player.

Resigning mediocre guys to long contracts is exactly what delivered us to the mess we're currently watching unfold. Cut the loss and move on.

[amcoolio]

Kaminsky is going to look good somewhere else, but there's nothing we can do about that now. Out with the Cho regime, time to start fresh.

[DY_nasty]

i liked him more than willie but that aint saying much

hope he finds his stride elsewhere

[fatlever]

Forgetting about the mistake made on draft night for a second, this is another example of why we need to be more ruthless with our young players. If a guy isn't developing after two or three years cut-bait and trade him for whatever you can.

Frank isn't in our long-term plans and he doesn't have any trade value. No real point in hanging on to him now, we already missed the opportunity to get value from him a year-and-a-half ago.

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Sticky this post at the top of every player thread. It can't be restated enough.

Too many people in here are reactive instead of proactive. Like four months ago Kaminsky was a bum and didn't need to be extended and blah blah.

Now they're idiots for not bringing him back.

They're idiots for not looking to trade him and his bird rights because they should've seen that he hadn't/wouldn't develop into a worthy starting player.

Resigning mediocre guys to long contracts is exactly what delivered us to the mess we're currently watching unfold. Cut the loss and move on.

same reason why it never made sense to talk about resigning lamb to a 10-15 mil deal. thats just marvin, mkg, all over again. always some dude in the gleague/late 1st/2nd/europe/end of a bench - who can get you 80% of that production for 90% less money.

[Snidely FC]

The BOS BS and revisionist histories about Myles Turner and Devin Booker aside, I remember that night the feeling that the decision was Justice Winslow or Frank Kaminsky. Winslow was a Duke stud, a future star. How had he fallen to us? I was listening to the draft on XM NBA Radio, and remember a rush of excitement when DET passed on Winslow. OMG, omg, we're gonna get Justice Winslow!" And then I remember bashing the steering wheel and yelling, "Nooooooooo."