The Kemba Walker Thread

SWedd523 · Post #281 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:23 am

As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

Elden Payton · Post #282 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:33 am

SWEDD523 wrote:As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

Agreed, also if Kemba starts it may accelerate Hendo's playmaking abilities & handle as Kemba is effective off the ball.

I think we've got to do whatever will make us lose the most amount of games whilst giving our youngsters the best chance to reach their potential.

captaincrunk · Post #283 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:33 am

SWEDD523 wrote:As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

6 isn't average though, 6 is pretty good. Not fantastic, but pretty good. Plus he won't be getting 36 mpg, even if he does start, and hopefully Diaw won't be getting as many minutes as before either!

I'm not saying he can't do it. It's just that everyone is saying he won't, while saying that they're excited for 3 assists.

But there is some concern. Losing Jackson, Diaw losing minutes, and DJ losing minutes is all minutes lost by our best playmakers. Adding Kemba adds some playmaking, but if those projected stats are accurate it'll be plays for Kemba mostly.

Elden Payton · Post #284 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:37 am

captaincrunk wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

6 isn't average though, 6 is pretty good. Not fantastic, but pretty good. Plus he won't be getting 36 mpg, even if he does start, and hopefully Diaw won't be getting as many minutes as before either!

I'm not saying he can't do it. It's just that everyone is saying he won't, while saying that they're excited for 3 assists.
But there is some concern. Losing Jackson, Diaw losing minutes, and DJ losing minutes is all minutes lost by our best playmakers. Adding Kemba adds some playmaking, but if those projected stats are accurate it'll be plays for Kemba mostly.

I think with the defensive attention Kemba will get he can accidentally create three assists.

Post #285 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:40 am

SWEDD523 wrote:As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

Not so sure about that. A lot of it is reliant on who you are passing the ball to and their ability to put it in the basket - and it's not like our team is chock full of scorers!!

Plus, there were only 17 PG's that averaged 6 or more last season. Take the super stars out (CP3, Nash, D.Will, Kidd, Westbrook, Rose etc) and that leaves only about 10 PG's who did it.

Elden Payton · Post #286 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:45 am

^^^^^^^^^^

DJ was one

which teams need a PG & would give good value for DJ??

Post #287 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:52 am

Sik Infant wrote:which teams need a PG

The Bobcats.

captaincrunk · Post #288 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:52 am

Sik Infant wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

DJ was one

which teams need a PG & would give good value for DJ??

There aren't many. It's not the best market for PGs this year, and too many teams have rookie/sophomores they think are gonna be amazing (who are totally gonna be average at best).

Elden Payton · Post #289 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:59 am

BigSlam wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:which teams need a PG

The Bobcats.

LOL

SWedd523 · Post #290 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:05 am

BigSlam wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:As a starter, Kemba can get 6 assists a game. That's pretty average for a PG so it's certainly not out of the question. Diaw gets around 4 a game by himself.

Not so sure about that. A lot of it is reliant on who you are passing the ball to and their ability to put it in the basket - and it's not like our team is chock full of scorers!!

Plus, there were only 17 PG's that averaged 6 or more last season. Take the super stars out (CP3, Nash, D.Will, Kidd, Westbrook, Rose etc) and that leaves only about 10 PG's who did it.

ESPN has 18 PGs as averaging 6 a game last year (20 if you count LeBron and Iguodala). That's nearly 2/3 of the league's PGs. I don't see why any PG worth his salt isn't a legitimate threat for 6 a night.

Replacing Jack (ISO) with Hendo (curl screens) is going to help the PGs in the assist column.
Maggette as a slasher will help
Lobs to Bismack, if he plays, will help
And teams being concerned with Kemba's scoring ability will help open things up as well

Of course all of that is under the hypothetical of Kemba as the team's starter and DJ gone somewhere else. Like I said earlier, with him coming off the bench behind DJ, he'll be closer to 10/3/1.5

Elden Payton · Post #291 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:13 am

captaincrunk wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

DJ was one

which teams need a PG & would give good value for DJ??

There aren't many. It's not the best market for PGs this year, and too many teams have rookie/sophomores they think are gonna be amazing (who are totally gonna be average at best).

Atlanta-Teague/Benson/1st round pick for DJA & DJ White.

Sacto-DJ for Thompson/1st round pick for DJ

Orlando-Anderson/Orton for DJ

OKC-Maynor/Aldrich for DJ

LAL-Morris/Ebanks/2 1st round picks for DJ

???

What do you guys think?? Are these realistic??

SWedd523 · Post #292 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:14 am

The only teams you listed that would be interested in him are Orlando and Los Angeles

captaincrunk · Post #293 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:16 am

Sik Infant wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

DJ was one

which teams need a PG & would give good value for DJ??

There aren't many. It's not the best market for PGs this year, and too many teams have rookie/sophomores they think are gonna be amazing (who are totally gonna be average at best).

Atlanta-Teague/Benson/1st round pick for DJA & DJ White.

Atlanta is too high on Teague. They think he's gonna be an All Star.

Sik Infant wrote:Sacto-DJ for Thompson/1st round pick for DJ

Thompson would be the third best big on a roster with too many bigs already. Maybe once we see how their team looks. If they're a bottom 5 team... that pick could go nicely with our own...

Sik Infant wrote:Orlando-Anderson/Orton for DJ

I like Orton, but they don't need DJ.

Sik Infant wrote:OKC-Maynor/Aldrich for DJ

Hmm... This... this is promising.

Sik Infant wrote:LAL-Morris/Ebanks/2 1st round picks for DJ

Morris? Who?

Elden Payton · Post #294 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:31 am

Sik Infant wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:^^^^^^^^^^

DJ was one

which teams need a PG & would give good value for DJ??

There aren't many. It's not the best market for PGs this year, and too many teams have rookie/sophomores they think are gonna be amazing (who are totally gonna be average at best).

Atlanta-Teague/Benson/1st round pick for DJA & DJ White.

Atlanta is too high on Teague. They think he's gonna be an All Star.

Sik Infant wrote:Sacto-DJ for Thompson/1st round pick for DJ

Thompson would be the third best big on a roster with too many bigs already. Maybe once we see how their team looks. If they're a bottom 5 team... that pick could go nicely with our own...

Sik Infant wrote:Orlando-Anderson/Orton for DJ

I like Orton, but they don't need DJ.

Sik Infant wrote:OKC-Maynor/Aldrich for DJ

Hmm... This... this is promising.

Sik Infant wrote:LAL-Morris/Ebanks/2 1st round picks for DJ

Morris? Who?[/quote]

Darius Morris-6'5 PG out of Michigan who should have been a first round pick but went in the second, his game would be perfect next to Kemba.

I like the OKC trade aswell, I reckon they'd do it & a three man rotation of DJ,Harden & Westbrook in the backcourt would be awesome for them...also DJ has Durant connections playing together at Texas.

Elden Payton · Post #295 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:33 am

SWEDD523 wrote:The only teams you listed that would be interested in him are Orlando and Los Angeles

i think OKC will be interested, they don't need Aldrich & though they are high on Maynor DJ is the better player & the better fit.

Aldrich was a reach for them out of need but isn't a need anymore with Perk there.

captaincrunk · Post #296 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:40 am

Sik Infant wrote:Darius Morris-6'5 PG out of Michigan who should have been a first round pick but went in the second, his game would be perfect next to Kemba.

I like the OKC trade aswell, I reckon they'd do it & a three man rotation of DJ,Harden & Westbrook in the backcourt would be awesome for them...also DJ has Durant connections playing together at Texas.

Yeah that Texas Connection is nice. DJ plays well off the ball, and doesn't make stupid turnovers.

Sik Infant wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:The only teams you listed that would be interested in him are Orlando and Los Angeles

i think OKC will be interested, they don't need Aldrich & though they are high on Maynor DJ is the better player & the better fit.

Aldrich was a reach for them out of need but isn't a need anymore with Perk there.

Yeah. DJ is better than Maynor, and now we're the ones who have the need for Aldrich. We're not getting equal talent back, but it gives us a position of need.

Elden Payton · Post #297 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:08 am

captaincrunk wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:Darius Morris-6'5 PG out of Michigan who should have been a first round pick but went in the second, his game would be perfect next to Kemba.

I like the OKC trade aswell, I reckon they'd do it & a three man rotation of DJ,Harden & Westbrook in the backcourt would be awesome for them...also DJ has Durant connections playing together at Texas.

Yeah that Texas Connection is nice. DJ plays well off the ball, and doesn't make stupid turnovers.
Sik Infant wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:The only teams you listed that would be interested in him are Orlando and Los Angeles

i think OKC will be interested, they don't need Aldrich & though they are high on Maynor DJ is the better player & the better fit.

Aldrich was a reach for them out of need but isn't a need anymore with Perk there.

Yeah. DJ is better than Maynor, and now we're the ones who have the need for Aldrich. We're not getting equal talent back, but it gives us a position of need.

This is what believe, Those needs need to be addressed sooner rather than later & as Maynor is a bit bigger than DJ & can play spot 2 he fits well...especially with his range.

Aldrich could excel given minutes with us & spent most of last season in the D-League which could mean he is available, his fundamentals are good but his athleticism is lacking but that could be covered playing next to athletic freaks like TT & Biyombo.

Maybe OKC throws in a first or a couple of seconds but I would do it without the picks just to get it done.

Elden Payton · Post #298 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:10 am

Also Crunk I think Jason Thompson would be a good fit for us with his ability to play the 4 & the 5, with the Kings trading for Hickson I think Thompson could be available.

Post #299 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:08 pm

If a team phoned today and offered their 1st round pick pick in the 2012 draft for Kemba and you 100% knew that pick was going to be 9th overall, would people take it?

SWedd523 · Post #300 » by **SWedd523** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:42 pm

Depending on the player and situation, yes.

I like my PGs to either be big bodied or pass first, and our current PGs are neither.

It's really obvious to see why i love what Kendall brings to the table. The kid is a 6'4 physical chore for whoever guards him, and has elite floor vision for even the NBA. I also really like what I've seen from Myck Kabongo and Tony Wroten Jr.

I'd be happier with Marshall/Hendo/Barnes/Tyrus/Bismack than with Kemba.