NBA ChoK16 - the Rich Cho Thread

[mrknowitall215]

Why are people hating on Cho so much? He has done pretty damn good since he became our GM. If you want to look at a horrid off season, look at the almighty Morey in Houston.

Now thats terrible.

Anything good=MJ

Anything bad=Cho

i believe in one man.

CHORDAN#23

Jordan didn't sign Jefferson, and that was 'good'. However, it's not for certain how much of that was Higgins

[Elden Payton]

Why are people hating on Cho so much? He has done pretty damn good since he became our GM. If you want to look at a horrid off season, look at the almighty Morey in Houston.

Now thats terrible.

Anything good=MJ

Anything bad=Cho

i believe in one man.

CHORDAN#23

Jordan didn't sign Jefferson, and that was 'good'. However, it's not for certain how much of that was Higgins

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

[mrknowitall215]

Anything good=MJ

Anything bad=Cho

i believe in one man.

CHORDAN#23

Jordan didn't sign Jefferson, and that was 'good'. However, it's not for certain how much of that was Higgins

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

[Liver_Pooty]

Jordan didn't sign Jefferson, and that was 'good'. However, it's not for certain how much of that was Higgins

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

No one will ever know the facts though. Maybe Cho wanted to try and miraculously add both Hayward and Stephenson? At this point none of us know what Cho wanted or what he didn't want so we would all be speaking out of our ass. But, then again, thats what message boards is for. So I get what you're trying to say.

[Elden Payton]

Jordan didn't sign Jefferson, and that was 'good'. However, it's not for certain how much of that was Higgins

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

Look at what Higgins done, compared to what Cho has done, and you will have your answer.

Cho is not above criticism, but what he has achieved in Charlotte is field of dreams type stuff.

People putting him down because they would have done something different is a laugh.

[Elden Payton]

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

No one will ever know the facts though. Maybe Cho wanted to try and miraculously add both Hayward and Stephenson? At this point none of us know what Cho wanted or what he didn't want so we would all be speaking out of our ass. But, then again, thats what message boards is for. So I get what you're trying to say.

It is just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

[mrknowitall215]

You justify ragging on Cho with unsubstantiated claims such as, it was Jordan who wanted Lance and not Cho.

Yet Cho is the one who signed him to an awesome deal.

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

Look at what Higgins done, compared to what Cho has done, and you will have your answer.

Cho is not above criticism, but what he has achieved in Charlotte is field of dreams type stuff.

People putting him down because they would have done something different is a laugh.

Ask me if I think Cho has done a admiral job as Charlotte's GM over the past 3 years, and you might get a different answer than you're assuming to insinuate

Ask me if I have a keen to suspicious eye towards what Cho's direction may be and if I think he's good at drafting, and you might get a negative response

You're just jumping to conclusions that I think Cho is a bad GM just because I question his motive from a distance in which I don't know exactly what's going on beyond the little bit of information that's shoveled to us. I actually happen to think he's a solid GM from what he's done

[Liver_Pooty]

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

No one will ever know the facts though. Maybe Cho wanted to try and miraculously add both Hayward and Stephenson? At this point none of us know what Cho wanted or what he didn't want so we would all be speaking out of our ass. But, then again, thats what message boards is for. So I get what you're trying to say.

It is just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

I posted months ago that I thought we would go after Hayward due to the mere fact that he is a good player and his character, which is incredible, and hes a hard worker. I definitely did not think we would offer him the contract we did, but as it got closer to free agency and seeing the Cavs nearly sign him only to not sign him to a max offer due to Lebron I knew we would offer him an outrageous deal. Stephenson would have gotten close to a max deal at 12:02am on July 1st if he wasn't such a freaking psycho at times. Teams value character these days more than ever, especially considering that the salary cap is going to sky rocket nearly 15-20 million in 2016. What seems like a horrid contract now for Hayward may not be bad at all.

There is a reason why Al, Hendo, Lance, etc has a 2 year deal with an option at the end of it, mainly Lances option in 2016. Keeping all our options open, and thats where Cho needs some credit. No long term deals that hinders our flexibility.

[mrknowitall215]

...but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

See, now where is that any much different than my imagination leading me to think that Jordan was behind the Stephenson signing moreso than Cho?

If I wanted to interrogate your belief, I'd be antagonizing Al Jefferson right now

It's all just a matter of opinion. No need to feel no type of way because somebody doesn't think what you're thinking

[Elden Payton]

I'm uncertain if Cho didn't want Stephenson. It's just a rather unusual air towards the situation that would make people, not just me, believe that maybe Cho was disinterested in signing Stephenson. You're putting words in my mouth if you're saying that I'm blabbering off this as fact. I've been on record of stating that I hope Bonnell make a article about it, because unless that happens then we will never know for a fact

I find it awfully hypocritical and contradicting that people can save Cho from criticism without knowing the parameters of what's going on behind the scenes, but it was open season on Rod Higgins during his tenure

Look at what Higgins done, compared to what Cho has done, and you will have your answer.

Cho is not above criticism, but what he has achieved in Charlotte is field of dreams type stuff.

People putting him down because they would have done something different is a laugh.

Ask me if I think Cho has done a admiral job as Charlotte's GM over the past 3 years, and you might get a different answer than you're assuming to insinuate

Ask me if I have a keen to suspicious eye towards what Cho's direction may be and if I think he's good at drafting, and you might get a negative response

You're just jumping to conclusions that I think Cho is a bad GM just because I question his motive from a distance in which I don't know exactly what's going on beyond the little bit of information that's shoveled to us. I actually happen to think he's a solid GM from what he's done

I'm just going by your posts, I'm not insinuating anything.

[Elden Payton]

...but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

See, now where is that any much different than my imagination leading me to think that Jordan was behind the Stephenson signing moreso than Cho?

If I wanted to interrogate your belief, I'd be antagonizing Al Jefferson right now

It's all just a matter of opinion. No need to feel no type of way because somebody doesn't think what you're thinking

I'm not, and pot meet kettle.

In regards to Cho, please follow your own advice.

[Elden Payton]

No one will ever know the facts though. Maybe Cho wanted to try and miraculously add both Hayward and Stephenson? At this point none of us know what Cho wanted or what he didn't want so we would all be speaking out of our ass. But, then again, thats what message boards is for. So I get what you're trying to say.

It is just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt, but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

I posted months ago that I thought we would go after Hayward due to the mere fact that he is a good player and his character, which is incredible, and hes a hard worker. I definitely did not think we would offer him the contract we did, but as it got closer to free agency and seeing the Cavs nearly sign him only to not sign him to a max offer due to Lebron I knew we would offer him an outrageous deal. Stephenson would have gotten close to a max deal at 12:02am on July 1st if he wasn't such a freaking psycho at times. Teams value character these days more than ever, especially considering that the salary cap is going to sky rocket nearly 15-20 million in 2016. What seems like a horrid contract now for Hayward may not be bad at all.

There is a reason why Al, Hendo, Lance, etc has a 2 year deal with an option at the end of it, mainly Lances option in 2016. Keeping all our options open, and thats where Cho needs some credit. No long term deals that hinders our flexibility.

Excellent post.

I agree completely.

[Liver_Pooty]

We need to be talking about what Cho's master plan is with all of these 2 year deals with options at the end.

[yosemiteben]

I don't usually speculate, but if you put a gun to my head and said tell me what Cho was thinking, I'd say the only part of this offseason (since the draft) that hasn't gone to plan was Utah matching Hayward, which although not ideal was pretty predictable. I think he wanted both Lance and Hayward, and once he had Vonleh he wasn't going to give McRoberts a long term deal and Marvin Williams was a readily available substitute.

[yosemiteben]

We need to be talking about what Cho's master plan is with all of these 2 year deals with options at the end.

Yup. If you think this offseason was nerve wracking...we're all gonna be on suicide watch in 2016.

[mrknowitall215]

...but I imagine that Jefferson wanted us to go after Hayward so we obliged.

Keep them happy.

See, now where is that any much different than my imagination leading me to think that Jordan was behind the Stephenson signing moreso than Cho?

If I wanted to interrogate your belief, I'd be antagonizing Al Jefferson right now

It's all just a matter of opinion. No need to feel no type of way because somebody doesn't think what you're thinking

I'm not, and pot meet kettle.

In regards to Cho, please follow your own advice.

I take my own advice. You won't see me antagonizing another poster for believing Cho was so brilliantly patient on the Stephenson signing that he got him at a lowered price. That's y'all belief even if I disagree with it

[Elden Payton]

See, now where is that any much different than my imagination leading me to think that Jordan was behind the Stephenson signing moreso than Cho?

If I wanted to interrogate your belief, I'd be antagonizing Al Jefferson right now

It's all just a matter of opinion. No need to feel no type of way because somebody doesn't think what you're thinking

I'm not, and pot meet kettle.

In regards to Cho, please follow your own advice.

I take my own advice. You won't see me antagonizing another poster for believing Cho was so brilliantly patient on the Stephenson signing that he got him at a lowered price. That's y'all belief even if I disagree with it

You antagonize other posters every day for not believing what you do.

Cho was patient on this deal, which is one of the reasons we got him for so cheap.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm not, and pot meet kettle.

In regards to Cho, please follow your own advice.

I take my own advice. You won't see me antagonizing another poster for believing Cho was so brilliantly patient on the Stephenson signing that he got him at a lowered price. That's y'all belief even if I disagree with it

You antagonize other posters every day for not believing what you do.

Cho was patient on this deal, which is one of the reasons we got him for so cheap.

No sir. If you ever see me in a back-and-forth debate, it's because I'm defending my very own stance against others, not me attacking the belief of others

[yosemiteben]

I take my own advice. You won't see me antagonizing another poster for believing Cho was so brilliantly patient on the Stephenson signing that he got him at a lowered price. That's y'all belief even if I disagree with it

THIS THINLY VEILED ATTACK ON MY SIGNATURE WILL NOT STAND

Honestly, who tf knows. Surely Cho was nervous, he's paid to weigh the risks. MJ obviously likes the kid. It could have gone down any number of ways. I just get warm fuzzies thinking that our FO and owner are at least on the same page.

[Elden Payton]

I take my own advice. You won't see me antagonizing another poster for believing Cho was so brilliantly patient on the Stephenson signing that he got him at a lowered price. That's y'all belief even if I disagree with it

You antagonize other posters every day for not believing what you do.

Cho was patient on this deal, which is one of the reasons we got him for so cheap.

No sir. If you ever see me in a back-and-forth debate, it's because I'm defending my very own stance against others, not me attacking the belief of others

Feeling attacked because people don't see what you see is the same thing.

Feeling the need to defend your opinion and going round in circles hoping they see the error of their ways is the same thing.