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Post#281 » by ARHornet » Wed May 28, 2014 11:01 pm

fatlever wrote:if the hornets really believe in the future of MKG, then stauskus should be the guy at #9. they compliment each other perfectly. you could not hand pick a better set of skills and size to put next to MKG. stauskus has enough size that you can hide him on the worst of the two wings, while MKG guards the better of the two.

lebron/wade - MKG guards lebron, stauskus guards wade - obviously the toughest wing matchup in the league
melo/hardaway - MKG guards melo, stauskus guards hardaway
parsons/harden - MKG guards harden, stauskaus guards parsons - gives up some height, but should be OK.
kobe/young - MKG guards kobe, stauskus guards young
etc...

if the hornets have some reservations about MKG, then go with mcdermott and find a shooting guard in free agency or in a trade or stick with henderson.

Completely agree. This is why I rate Stauskas over McDermott, because I believe in the future of MKG. I'm just afraid the front office doesn't see it that way and would get rid of or bench MKG. I like McDermott and wouldn't have a problem with us adding him, but if we take him I'll be concerned just because of what it means for the future of MKG as a Hornet.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#282 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 30, 2014 3:33 am

Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso

A team called Wednesday asking the Hornets if they’re willing to part with their picks. They are.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... rylink=cpy
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#283 » by MasterIchiro » Fri May 30, 2014 3:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso

A team called Wednesday asking the Hornets if they’re willing to part with their picks. They are.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... rylink=cpy


The short story would have provoked more conversation had he offered Gordon Hayward as a potential trade target instead of Afflalo (for 9 which is robbery imo).

I see that he likes Stauskas + Hairston - no surprise there. He also correctly identifies our primary need as a shooter - so I think you nail down that 9 pick first instead of worrying about Hairston being there at 24.

The uncertainty of a shooter being there or not being there at 24 leads me to believe Charlotte will keep 9, draft the shooter and trade 24.

I just don't see a team loving players at 9 enough to give Charlotte the piece we really need for now and the future.

Afflalo for 24 makes sense but Sorenson never connected those dots.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#284 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 30, 2014 3:52 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso

A team called Wednesday asking the Hornets if they’re willing to part with their picks. They are.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... rylink=cpy


The short story would have provoked more conversation had he offered Gordon Hayward as a potential trade target instead of Afflalo (for 9 which is robbery imo).

I see that he likes Stauskas + Hairston - no surprise there. He also correctly identifies our primary need as a shooter - so I think you nail down that 9 pick first instead of worrying about Hairston being there at 24.

The uncertainty of a shooter being there or not being there at 24 leads me to believe Charlotte will keep 9, draft the shooter and trade 24.

I just don't see a team loving players at 9 enough to give Charlotte the piece we really need for now and the future.

Afflalo for 24 makes sense but Sorenson never connected those dots.


Im believing to think that Utah matches any offer for Hayward unless its a max deal. They aren't going to let him walk for something reasonable. Hence the Eric Gordon/ Suns ordeal where they offered him a ton and the Pelicans matched. They regret that now.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#285 » by MasterIchiro » Fri May 30, 2014 4:14 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso



The short story would have provoked more conversation had he offered Gordon Hayward as a potential trade target instead of Afflalo (for 9 which is robbery imo).

I see that he likes Stauskas + Hairston - no surprise there. He also correctly identifies our primary need as a shooter - so I think you nail down that 9 pick first instead of worrying about Hairston being there at 24.

The uncertainty of a shooter being there or not being there at 24 leads me to believe Charlotte will keep 9, draft the shooter and trade 24.

I just don't see a team loving players at 9 enough to give Charlotte the piece we really need for now and the future.

Afflalo for 24 makes sense but Sorenson never connected those dots.


Im believing to think that Utah matches any offer for Hayward unless its a max deal. They aren't going to let him walk for something reasonable. Hence the Eric Gordon/ Suns ordeal where they offered him a ton and the Pelicans matched. They regret that now.


Oh I agree they match. They have no scoring if they don't match. That's why I think if Hayward becomes a Hornet it would have to cost more than money alone.

But we can get Stauskas who can become Hayward for a fraction of the cost, and package 24 with something for a win-now player.

I maintain we lock up a shooter at 9 and don't depend on a good one being available at 24 nor in free agency.

24 we would definitely trade after getting a shooter. We would have every starting spot covered before the 24th pick comes up

Walker
Stauskas (hopefully)
MKG
Zeller or McRoberts
Al Jefferson

24 is a bench player for us and a potential starter to another team. We can definitely swing Afflalo for 24 + something else. He only has 1-2 years left on his deal and even Stauskas, who I love, will need time to develop at a manageable pace for him. They're not going to overwhelm any rookie with minutes being a win-now team as it is. But Afflalo gets Henderson out of the SG and pushes him to SF where you either have MKG or Henderson on the floor but never both at the same time.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#286 » by -Ian- » Fri May 30, 2014 6:33 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso

A team called Wednesday asking the Hornets if they’re willing to part with their picks. They are.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... rylink=cpy

Am I the only one who thinks that Tom Sorenson > Rick Bonnell when it comes to content?
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#287 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri May 30, 2014 6:37 am

-Ian- wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso

A team called Wednesday asking the Hornets if they’re willing to part with their picks. They are.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... rylink=cpy

Am I the only one who thinks that Tom Sorenson > Rick Bonnell when it comes to content?


I think my 7 year old son could come up with better content.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#288 » by -Ian- » Fri May 30, 2014 6:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
-Ian- wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Tom Sorenson showing Rick Bonnell how to write a short but effective piece

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/0 ... 4f7YPldUso


Am I the only one who thinks that Tom Sorenson > Rick Bonnell when it comes to content?


I think my 7 year old son could come up with better content.

That's harsh. :lol: But that also reflects how bad the local writers that are covering the team. :(
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Post#289 » by LofJ » Fri May 30, 2014 10:58 am

I'd trade the 9 pick to the Magic if Stauskas is still there at 12. They'll have to take Henderson off our hands though and ideally send us Afflalo.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#290 » by Bassman » Fri May 30, 2014 11:43 am

LofJ wrote:I'd trade the 9 pick to the Magic if Stauskas is still there at 12. They'll have to take Henderson off our hands though and ideally send us Afflalo.


I am sure Orlando's starting position is something stupid (9th pick + future 2nd for Afflalo). I am sure they would not swap picks AND give us AA, and they certainly would not take on Hendo plus swap positions.

IF we were to deal for AA I don't know why our target would be Nick. I still like him a lot as our 9th pick option.
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Post#291 » by LofJ » Fri May 30, 2014 12:30 pm

I think they'd think about it if we threw the #24 pick in. But that would be offering too much in my opinion. As much as I'd like to move on from Henderson trading him will likely cost us more than it's worth. But yeah I agree with you we'd be better off just drafing Stauskas at 9.
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Post#292 » by dmutombo321 » Fri May 30, 2014 12:46 pm

fatlever wrote:if the hornets really believe in the future of MKG, then stauskus should be the guy at #9. they compliment each other perfectly. you could not hand pick a better set of skills and size to put next to MKG. stauskus has enough size that you can hide him on the worst of the two wings, while MKG guards the better of the two.

lebron/wade - MKG guards lebron, stauskus guards wade - obviously the toughest wing matchup in the league
melo/hardaway - MKG guards melo, stauskus guards hardaway
parsons/harden - MKG guards harden, stauskaus guards parsons - gives up some height, but should be OK.
kobe/young - MKG guards kobe, stauskus guards young
etc...

if the hornets have some reservations about MKG, then go with mcdermott and find a shooting guard in free agency or in a trade or stick with henderson.


You have to believe that this is their line of thought on how they'll approach the draft.

If Mcdermott displays in workouts the mobility to play SF and passably defend the SF spot (Perhaps have guys like Hood and Warren in at the same time to mix it up with him) and they would be drafting him with the intent of allowing he and MKG to openly compete for the starting SF spot and minutes based on merit, then I'm fine with McD as the pick.

On the other hand, if they're married to MKG at SF regardless of whether he continues to show no progress on ever developing an offensive game, or if McDermott underwhelms at workouts and/or Charlotte would be drafting him to use primarily as a 6'7 220lb PF, I'd prefer they opt for Stauskas instead.
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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#293 » by MasterIchiro » Fri May 30, 2014 6:43 pm

Basketball analyst Jordan Cornette most intrigued by Nik Stauskas, compares him to Klay Thompson + Steph Curry

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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#294 » by MasterIchiro » Sat May 31, 2014 2:23 am

Stauskas to meet with Celtics + Lakers

I really don't like the sound of this.

Following the combine, Stauskas said he could envision himself playing in Boston. He spent two years at St. Mark's School in Southborough, Mass., prior to landing at Michigan. He played against current Celtics president Danny Ainge's son in both high school and in AAU competition. Additionally, current Celtics coach Brad Stevens has long known Michigan assistant LaVall Jordan, dating back to their time at Butler.

At the combine, Stauskas said his interview with the Celtics was "really short, but very positive."
"They had a lot of good things to say about me," he added.


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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#295 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat May 31, 2014 2:26 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Stauskas to meet with Celtics + Lakers

I really don't like the sound of this.

Following the combine, Stauskas said he could envision himself playing in Boston. He spent two years at St. Mark's School in Southborough, Mass., prior to landing at Michigan. He played against current Celtics president Danny Ainge's son in both high school and in AAU competition. Additionally, current Celtics coach Brad Stevens has long known Michigan assistant LaVall Jordan, dating back to their time at Butler.

At the combine, Stauskas said his interview with the Celtics was "really short, but very positive."
"They had a lot of good things to say about me," he added.


http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.s ... o_mee.html


Reminds me of Oladipo last year. Was slated around 7ish, and slowly but surely rose and rose, and ended up being picked second.
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Post#296 » by MasterIchiro » Sat May 31, 2014 2:35 am

Ok if I have to live in a world where Nik Stauskas is not a Hornet, I want to see how the draft could shake out if the Celtics select him with pick #6.

1-4 - Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, Exum

5-Jazz: Noah Vonleh
6-Celtics: Nik Stauskas
7-Lakers: Marcus Smart
8-Kings: Julius Randle

oh god
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Post#297 » by BeesWax » Sat May 31, 2014 2:36 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Stauskas to meet with Celtics + Lakers

I really don't like the sound of this.

Following the combine, Stauskas said he could envision himself playing in Boston. He spent two years at St. Mark's School in Southborough, Mass., prior to landing at Michigan. He played against current Celtics president Danny Ainge's son in both high school and in AAU competition. Additionally, current Celtics coach Brad Stevens has long known Michigan assistant LaVall Jordan, dating back to their time at Butler.

At the combine, Stauskas said his interview with the Celtics was "really short, but very positive."
"They had a lot of good things to say about me," he added.


http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.s ... o_mee.html


Reminds me of Oladipo last year. Was slated around 7ish, and slowly but surely rose and rose, and ended up being picked second.

Two years in a row this is starting to piss me off.
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Post#298 » by BeesWax » Sat May 31, 2014 2:37 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Ok if I have to live in a world where Nik Stauskas is not a Hornet, I want to see how the draft could shake out if the Celtics select him with pick #6.

1-4 - Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, Exum

5-Jazz: Noah Vonleh
6-Celtics: Nik Stauskas
7-Lakers: Marcus Smart
8-Kings: Julius Randle

oh god

Everyone I really want would be gone by 6.
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Post#299 » by JDR720 » Sat May 31, 2014 2:37 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Ok if I have to live in a world where Nik Stauskas is not a Hornet, I want to see how the draft could shake out if the Celtics select him with pick #6.

1-4 - Embiid, Wiggins, Parker, Exum

5-Jazz: Noah Vonleh
6-Celtics: Nik Stauskas
7-Lakers: Marcus Smart
8-Kings: Julius Randle

oh god

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Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread 

Post#300 » by ARHornet » Sat May 31, 2014 2:37 am

Ainge and Stevens are probably smart enough to take Stauskas and screw us. Gary Harris time! :banghead:

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