Fake Trade Thread 2

[JDuaneWayne]

I could easily be talked into kemba, Batum for Barnes, Smith and would probably need Powell to match salary.

I can't see us getting a good draft pick for kemba and Smith is probably the best potential pg I could see us getting

I firmly believe this is the move, trading Kemba is going to hurt a lot of fans, but bringing back some local-ish players, will help off-set some of that sting (no pun intended).

I'm a local fan and I'm not going to pay to go see what we're rolling out versus any decent team much less if Lamb and Cody miss extended time and we see more of what we saw the other night.

It becomes even more of a priority if Lamb misses extended time and we look awful without him. There aren't many moves where we can free up enough space to sign both he and Kemba, without giving up picks. If we trade picks we are rolling out this same team for two more years hoping somebody makes a jump and I just don't see anyone on this team making enough of a jump in that time frame to make us even a contender for home court advantage in the first round.

No doubt these next few weeks should determine the direction of our franchise.

[Hornet Mania]

Almost every rumor has indicated Mitch's number one priority is to get out from under Batum's contract.

Not necessarily challenging this, but don't remember any rumors about Batum since Mitch came on board. Am I missing something?

EDIT: my bad, just saw that article.

Would you rather trade Batum + 1st for an expiring and resign Lamb, or stand pat and let Lamb walk next summer?

I'd have to Google a bit but I remember a few rumors in the summer regarding Kemba for lotto picks, but they all said that the conversation ended when it was clear it would have to be Kemba + Batum or nothing. The new rumor added to that makes it seem like a pattern.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Mitch wants to get rid of Kemba (and MJ wants it even less) but it sure seems like is bidding starts at also accepting Batum. Ideally I'm sure his dream scenario is to unload Batum while also gaining help for Kemba.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Thoughts on a package around Vucevic for Monk + a contract?

[JDuaneWayne]

Thoughts on a package around Vucevic for Monk + a contract?

I think if I'm trading Monk, it's for more than salary relief. If we somehow make it out of January over .500, then maybe. Not much motivation for the Hornets when that money isn't likely to do them much good IMO.

[Hornet Mania]

Thoughts on a package around Vucevic for Monk + a contract?

Steve Clifford was not a fan of Monk's game at all when he was head coach here in Charlotte. I don't think he would get much if any floor time even if the Magic acquired him, they're better off moving Vucevic for someone who fits their system.

[Buzzzz]

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[Benjamin Linus]

What is the appeal of Justin Holiday? His name has been popping up before this trade. Is he a good defender or something? He's almost 30 yo and shoots 38% from the field (shot 37% last season)

[BigSlam]

Would you rather trade Batum + 1st for an expiring and resign Lamb, or stand pat and let Lamb walk next summer?

Depends:

Is it this years 1st? Any protection on the pick?

What would the Lamb contract look like (amount and years)?




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[JDR720]

I think the only way to trade Nic without attaching something (not Frank lol) is a 2 for 1 deal in which we take back 2 worse players on slightly better deals. or for Parsons and one of Memphis's cheap bums.

Nic for Parsons and Brooks? or just Nic for Parsons.

[catch20two]

What is the appeal of Justin Holiday? His name has been popping up before this trade. Is he a good defender or something? He's almost 30 yo and shoots 38% from the field (shot 37% last season)

He fits the narrative of a 3&D wing but I don’t think he’s been a part of a winning team yet.

He’s not afraid to shoot and occasionally he has good games offensively when his shot is falling. His defense isn’t really anything to write home about but he has length and he can move laterally.

More smoke and mirrors than quality production imo.

[Braggins]

Brooklyn doesn't really have any stretch bigs and are thin up front in general after Allen/Davis. They have a ton of guards. Maybe we could get Napier for Frank and some light pick action? I kind of doubt that they'd be interested in trading DLo, but hed be a great fit if we could somehow get him for our 1st.

[Bassman]

This team is average at best (all players healthy and producing to their max, except for Batum who sucks). There really is no trade that would get us anything added to Kemba that makes us a contender. We just don’t have the assets. I’m sure Mitch and MJ wanted to see what JB could do with the old ingredients. They aren’t fooling themselves. They know how bad it is. We just don’t know what they’re willing to do or able to do. MJ probably pushes back on any “blow-it-up” scenario, and resists the notion of trading Kemba. Without him we have no star appeal to bring fans in. With him we treadmill until he ages out.

I contend we would do our best by rebuilding via max trades (including Kemba) and focus on our youth. It would be a developmental tank. Graham at PG, Monk at SG, Miles at SF, mixed in with the remaining vets, trade assets acquired and new picks. It would be ugly at times, but accelerate our next phase past the deadwood.

[Lwcasu]

This team is average at best (all players healthy and producing to their max, except for Batum who sucks). There really is no trade that would get us anything added to Kemba that makes us a contender. We just don’t have the assets. I’m sure Mitch and MJ wanted to see what JB could do with the old ingredients. They aren’t fooling themselves. They know how bad it is. We just don’t know what they’re willing to do or able to do. MJ probably pushes back on any “blow-it-up” scenario, and resists the notion of trading Kemba. Without him we have no star appeal to bring fans in. With him we treadmill until he ages out.

I contend we would do our best by rebuilding via max trades (including Kemba) and focus on our youth. It would be a developmental tank. Graham at PG, Monk at SG, Miles at SF, mixed in with the remaining vets, trade assets acquired and new picks. It would be ugly at times, but accelerate our next phase past the deadwood.

In theory it’s the right move, but the reality is they want to create a brand and losing doesn’t help that. I’d wager they’d rather be a treadmill 8th seed than become a bottom dweller (they being mgmt).

Plus there is an argument Kemba is a top 15 player and the best player in Hornets history (including 90s Hornets). My bet is they’re not even doing the due diligence of shopping Kemba and if we make a move it’ll be small move. The reality is we are stuck with Batam. If it was me I’d at least try to unload Batun for a worse contract but better player (hello Kevin Love/Gordon Hayward/Wiggins). Become a better treadmill team and then eat the luxury tax and start hoping for some prospects to hit.

[Liver_Pooty]

Would you rather trade Batum + 1st for an expiring and resign Lamb, or stand pat and let Lamb walk next summer?

Depends:

Is it this years 1st? Any protection on the pick?

What would the Lamb contract look like (amount and years)?




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All for trading Batum plus a first and trading Lamb

[NCHeels2008]

I don't see a lot of incentive to aggressively tank, East already has 4 awful teams and with lotto reform i think unless you have the worst record and secure a top 5 pick it really isn't worth it

[DY_nasty]

i don't want to resign lamb

if this is as good as he is in a contract year then pass.

[316Hornets]

Yeah, including Frank should have everybody lining up. Is this really how incompetent Mitch is??

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252124/Hornets-Desperate-to-Move-Nic-Batum-Will-Include-Frank-Kaminsky-In-Trade

[Splitta]

Yeah, including Frank should have everybody lining up. Is this really how incompetent Mitch is??

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252124/Hornets-Desperate-to-Move-Nic-Batum-Will-Include-Frank-Kaminsky-In-Trade

Lets hope this was just an early April fools joke by Kupchak….lol....somehow we need resurrect Bob Bass and I guarantee Batum would already be gone!!

[Braggins]

i don't want to resign lamb

if this is as good as he is in a contract year then pass.

He was roughly the same last year, just with less opportunity. We aren't seeing a random big jump in productivity or anything in his contract year, so I'm not really worried about a drop off.

[Teal25]

Yeah, including Frank should have everybody lining up. Is this really how incompetent Mitch is??

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/252124/Hornets-Desperate-to-Move-Nic-Batum-Will-Include-Frank-Kaminsky-In-Trade

I laughed so hard but maybe Frank does have value and teams are willing to take a chance on him because we suck at developing players. Seriously moving Nic at minimum this year will have to include our 2019 1st and more than likely Cavs 2nd.