The "Dude": The Mitch Kupchak Thread

[BeesWax]

It's his fault we are not a deep team. If we had Eason with one of our firsts this year we would have had more depth there. Instead we trade a mid first for a late first. He is just trying to justify doing a poor job on the trade market like he always has. He is terrible at thinking forward and all he has done is draft solid.

Just put him in charge of the draft and remove all of his other responsibilities because he cannot perform any of them up to par.

[fatlever]

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Like these comments just legit scare me. This means we're going to go through another year of having the same roster because Mitch has yet to figure out whether or not he thinks this team is a good team.

Unless we land in immediate impact generational talent in the draft or somehow fall ass backwards into a real Difference Maker in free agency, we have seen the maximum capabilities of this team. 40 to 45 wins is the top as currently constructed. And that doesn't factor in the massively declining ability of Gordon Hayward.

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[fatlever]

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Small Market mentality
And if you don't think you can use your cap space to bring in free agents then why do you give away a player you developed in mcdaniels? In that case it's purely about being cheap as we had the ability to offer him more years and more money than anyone else on the market.

It's just b******* excuses with this franchise every year

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[MPM]

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Small Market mentality
And if you don't think you can use your cap space to bring in free agents then why do you give away a player you developed in mcdaniels? In that case it's purely about being cheap as we had the ability to offer him more years and more money than anyone else on the market.

It's just b******* excuses with this franchise every year

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"Making key trades" like bolstering our horrendous defense by swapping McD for Thybulle?

[fatlever]

Mitch - we traded a first round pick because we already had too many young players on the team to develop

Mitch - the team wasn't deep enough and that's on me

Mitch - we are a small Market team and can't sign big name free agents, and therefore must prioritize internal development

Mitch - trades McDaniels to Philadelphia ( probably because the Hornets decided they weren't going to pay both McDaniels and PJ)

He's just talking out of both sides of his mouth

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[JMAC3]

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Small Market mentality
And if you don't think you can use your cap space to bring in free agents then why do you give away a player you developed in mcdaniels? In that case it's purely about being cheap as we had the ability to offer him more years and more money than anyone else on the market.

It's just b******* excuses with this franchise every year

I don't think he is saying they can't sign any free agents, just think he is saying they aren't signing an all-nba talent. McDaniels is about to go average 7.5 ppg for the sixers and yall are really getting this worked up over it.

McDaniels was shooting 32% from three and averaging 10 ppg in nearly 27 mpg.

[fatlever]

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As I said previously, I don't necessarily disagree with the trading of McDaniels. But I don't like Mitch already being resigned to not being able to sign free agents as well as mentioning a lack of depth and needing to develop internally, while trading McDaniels for what we 100% know was purely Financial reasons.

No one in this fan base is expecting the Hornets to ever sign a top tier Superstar free agent. It's not going to happen. We all know that and none of us expect it.

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[amcoolio]

Yikes. I don't like any of those quotes at all.

You've had three seasons to see that LaMelo and Rozier can't work defensively, and that Hayward can't stay healthy, yet you still want to be patient because of injuries? Like what

[amcoolio]

As I said previously, I don't necessarily disagree with the trading of McDaniels. But I don't like Mitch already being resigned to not being able to sign free agents as well as mentioning a lack of depth and needing to develop internally, while trading McDaniels for what we 100% know was purely Financial reasons.

No one in this fan base is expecting the Hornets to ever sign a top tier Superstar free agent. It's not going to happen. We all know that and none of us expect it.

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Good point. Mitch is moping around like he is hamstrung with a "I'm doing the best I can do" attitude. So how about we bring in someone who has just a twinge of ambition. Why settle for worse than mediocrity. You guys do know we haven't won a playoff series ever, right

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Small Market mentality
And if you don't think you can use your cap space to bring in free agents then why do you give away a player you developed in mcdaniels? In that case it's purely about being cheap as we had the ability to offer him more years and more money than anyone else on the market.

It's just b******* excuses with this franchise every year

I don't think he is saying they can't sign any free agents, just think he is saying they aren't signing an all-nba talent. McDaniels is about to go average 7.5 ppg for the sixers and yall are really getting this worked up over it.

McDaniels was shooting 32% from three and averaging 10 ppg in nearly 27 mpg.

None of us have ever or will ever expect the Hornets to sign a superstar free agent.

You've read all my comments on McDaniels so you know that's not what I'm saying here. But we all know the reason they didn't keep McDaniels was because of money. We have his bird rights and I could have offered him more years and more money. He would have taken it. And we can match any offer for PJ and miles. So the only thing preventing us from having a deeper roster with all the talent we've developed is Jordan's pocketbook.

Now again, I don't have issues with them not spending that money on mcDaniels as long as it's used to improve the roster in other ways. If it's simply just goes back into Jordan's profits that's a different story.

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[fatlever]

As I said previously, I don't necessarily disagree with the trading of McDaniels. But I don't like Mitch already being resigned to not being able to sign free agents as well as mentioning a lack of depth and needing to develop internally, while trading McDaniels for what we 100% know was purely Financial reasons.

No one in this fan base is expecting the Hornets to ever sign a top tier Superstar free agent. It's not going to happen. We all know that and none of us expect it.

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Good point. Mitch is moping around like he is hamstrung with a "I'm doing the best I can do" attitude. So how about we bring in someone who has just a twinge of ambition. Why settle for worse than mediocrity. You guys do know we haven't won a playoff series ever, right

Our entire attitude to this year is don't blame us that The Season's f***** up. It's not our fault miles got in trouble it's not our fault that Kenny backed out and it's not our fault that all these injuries happen. Just wait until next year, things will be better.

Last year it was it's not our fault that Gordon got hurt or else we would have finished top 6.

Always excuses...

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[fatlever]

I would have a little bit more faith in keeping this team together next year for another run if we had performed better over the past month when we had our entire starting lineup healthy.



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[fatlever]

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We hope to bring back some of our free agents, if not all of them.

We really are about to pay Kelly Oubre 15 million a year for the next 4 years aren't we? Oh well, as long as that doesn't impact us resigning everyone else. It at least gives a little bit of Terry insurance. Neither are players I would personally pair with lamelo, hopefully they can flip Terry at some point for someone a little bigger and better defensively even if that means less offense.



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[fatlever]

Maybe it's a good thing Mitch doesn't talk very often. I have a f****** aneurysm every time he does. My head might explode if I ever heard words come out of Jordan's mouth about this team.

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[Braggins]

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I don't think Ive ever seen a worst case of denial with a front office. They had their entire core healthy and just lost four straight to Chicago, Detroit, Orlando, and Washington...

I can't imagine they are getting realistic feedback from Clifford about the players since his job at this point is basically to shake his head and say "yes Mitch, yes MJ, you guys have done a great job of building this roster. We are going to make the playoffs".

[fatlever]

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Basically this....

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[fatlever]

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I don't think Ive ever seen a worst case of denial with a front office. They had their entire core healthy and just lost four straight to Chicago, Detroit, Orlando, and Washington...

I can't imagine they are getting realistic feedback from Clifford about the players since his job at this point is basically to shake his head and say "yes Mitch, yes MJ, you guys have done a great job of building this roster. We are going to make the playoffs".

So what they are telling me is that Miles and Borrego are the difference between 43 wins and whatever it is we've seen over past month.

In that case, Miles was MVP and Borrego was coach of year.

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[Braggins]

This team isn't hard to judge either. Its not like they haven't basically had the same core for three years now. How the hell are they still unsure about what they have? Its looking more and more like JB actually did have them over performing the last couple years, but its not like there werent already problems and reality has fully set in now that Miles has been out and they switched to a bottom of the barrel coach with no vision.

[Braggins]

So what they are telling me is that Miles and Borrego are the difference between 43 wins and whatever it is we've seen over past month.

In that case, Miles was MVP and Borrego was coach of year.

Ive been trying to think of a good way to point this out but yeah, pretty much exact same core Miles was a top 10 offense last season and now they are literally 30/30. I know Miles hasn't been the only one thats missed time this year, but JB also had Gordon out for half of the season and the team never even came close to fully imploding on the level they have this season. I think when Gordon was healthy last season they were floating around top 3 offense and might have been ranked #1 at times (can't remember exactly).

Injuries have given a convenient excuse to ignore how truly horribly coached the team has been this season. Clifford has done a terrible job even grading on a curve for the circumstances.

[Walt Cronkite]

This is speculation from a lurker, but based on timing and the comparative lack of return the team gets in its trades, I think the problem is:

they get an offer, need to get it signed off by a higher up (maybe someone who has had a gambling problem), that person wants to hold out for a better deal, dominos fall around the league, the best offer as the deadline approaches is taken and it is a bust compared to the earlier deal as well as others around the same time because the alternative is to have the asset leave you completely empty handed.

Later/the next day put a spin on it because there is only so much of your job you are allowed to do when the person hiring you is the person hindering you.