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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#301 » by Chapelchilla » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:02 pm

I don’t think you can project Miles and Pj , maybe even Monk as only future role players when they are 20
One of them hasn’t even played a NBA game yet but he is already a miss?
I’m salty too but that hot take is taking things a bit too far for me
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#302 » by powerforward » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:24 pm

what direction are we heading? I'm not saying that our young guys can't be more than role players but based off of what evidence do we have that anyone has star potential?
And if we are rebuilding why pay rozier 20 mill a year? Why not sing d rose for half of that- or ish smith?

What team as of right now do you think we have a brighter future than?
I am legit asking for someone to give me something to be hopeful about with this team
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Post#303 » by Great » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:29 pm

powerforward wrote:what direction are we heading? I'm not saying that our young guys can't be more than role players but based off of what evidence do we have that anyone has star potential?
And if we are rebuilding why pay rozier 20 mill a year? Why not sing d rose for half of that- or ish smith?

What team as of right now do you think we have a brighter future than?
I am legit asking for someone to give me something to be hopeful about with this team


They have yet to pick a direction.
Rozier will end up the back up, or not finishing games.

This group of players need a different kind of point guard.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#304 » by 316Hornets » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:31 pm

powerforward wrote:what direction are we heading? I'm not saying that our young guys can't be more than role players but based off of what evidence do we have that anyone has star potential?
And if we are rebuilding why pay rozier 20 mill a year? Why not sing d rose for half of that- or ish smith?

What team as of right now do you think we have a brighter future than?
I am legit asking for someone to give me something to be hopeful about with this team


Rose is a stopgap on the backend of his career. Wouldn't you rather invest in someone who could be part of our core for the next 8 years as opposed to the next 2?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#305 » by powerforward » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:35 pm

I would be fine with that if we were getting that kind of player on that kind of contract. Rozier is getting paid like a starter more than we paid kemba- and there is no indication he can be a starting caliber pg. He is a low efficiency player who I think actually may hurt the development of our existing players. I would rather see Monk in high pick and roll ( I have seen glimpses of his court vision in the pnr)
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Post#306 » by 316Hornets » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:38 pm

powerforward wrote:I would be fine with that if we were getting that kind of player on that kind of contract. Rozier is getting paid like a starter more than we paid kemba- and there is no indication he can be a starting caliber pg. He is a low efficiency player who I think actually may hurt the development of our existing players. I would rather see Monk in high pick and roll ( I have seen glimpses of his court vision in the pnr)


You're paying for potential. He was the only guy we could use that money on because we are doing a S&T with Boston. And, I think Monk should be the last guy we should cater to. He hasn't exactly shown any type of real development and wasn't even getting minutes at the end of last season.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#307 » by powerforward » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:40 pm

316Hornets wrote:
powerforward wrote:I would be fine with that if we were getting that kind of player on that kind of contract. Rozier is getting paid like a starter more than we paid kemba- and there is no indication he can be a starting caliber pg. He is a low efficiency player who I think actually may hurt the development of our existing players. I would rather see Monk in high pick and roll ( I have seen glimpses of his court vision in the pnr)


You're paying for potential. He was the only guy we could use that money on because we are doing a S&T with Boston. And, I think Monk should be the last guy we should cater to. He hasn't exactly shown any type of real development and wasn't even getting minutes at the end of last season.



fair enough- but i'm higher on monk than most
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Post#308 » by Great » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:40 pm

Sign Cheick Diallo and Kevin Pangos

Trade away players for draft picks and/or cap space:
Monk, Williams, Gilchrist

Acquire a two way SG/SF - Sindarius Thornwell is my pick

Focus on playmaking, defense, shooting, and rebounding.

Reset things for the new regime with what’s left.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#309 » by Great » Mon Jul 1, 2019 6:48 pm

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powerforward wrote:I would be fine with that if we were getting that kind of player on that kind of contract. Rozier is getting paid like a starter more than we paid kemba- and there is no indication he can be a starting caliber pg. He is a low efficiency player who I think actually may hurt the development of our existing players. I would rather see Monk in high pick and roll ( I have seen glimpses of his court vision in the pnr)


You're paying for potential. He was the only guy we could use that money on because we are doing a S&T with Boston. And, I think Monk should be the last guy we should cater to. He hasn't exactly shown any type of real development and wasn't even getting minutes at the end of last season.


To that Monk point...

I don’t recall a team “developing” a 6th man. Those guys aren’t built around.

Those guys bounce around until they find a fit.
Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, etc.

Also Monk doesn’t have the physical tools to guard multiple positions.

He’s too limited to warrant such patience on a team that needs better defense and playmaking from their backcourt.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#310 » by powerforward » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:06 pm

do you guys see a higher upside with rozier than monk?
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Post#311 » by Great » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:16 pm

Rozier and Monk are role players.

Neither does multiple things well enough for their upside to be a concern.

Rozier is 25. 26 in March. More LaVar Ball(talk) than Steph Curry(game) to this point.

Monk shoots 37% fg & 33% 3’s.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#312 » by BigSlam » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:18 pm

powerforward wrote:do you guys see a higher upside with rozier than monk?

For a poster who only 3 1/2 hours ago said:

I think I am checking out - I will check on high lights every once in awhile, but I don' t think I can follow the hornets or the NBA for awhile

You sure are posting a lot about the team!!

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Post#313 » by 316Hornets » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:19 pm

powerforward wrote:do you guys see a higher upside with rozier than monk?



It's pretty close, but right now, Rozier is much more proven. Rozier has a 6'8" wingspan, which will always be in demand for a guard(as proven by MCW still getting money). Monk has a 6'4" wingspan, which is below average for a SG.

Shooting wise, they both haven't shown much. Monk has been called a gifted shooter, but he's struggled with accuracy throughout his career. Rozier hasn't shot much better, but he at least gets other people involved and doesn't turn the ball over often.

I'd definitely say Rozier has the higher upside based on where they are right now.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#314 » by powerforward » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:21 pm

BigSlam wrote:
powerforward wrote:do you guys see a higher upside with rozier than monk?

For a poster who only 3 1/2 hours ago said:

I think I am checking out - I will check on high lights every once in awhile, but I don' t think I can follow the hornets or the NBA for awhile

You sure are posting a lot about the team!!

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true, but hoping that someone gives me some glimmer of hope. Moreso I don't see me watching games this year
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#315 » by LofJ » Mon Jul 1, 2019 7:22 pm

Monk can shoot AND dunk, so that's more than one thing. If he can ever become an adequate defender he will be a good player to have on your roster.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#316 » by Great » Tue Jul 2, 2019 3:32 pm

Hopefully the front office is not finished adding talent.

The team doesn’t have to be bad and incompetent next year.

More above 42% fg and above 38% 3 pt shooting at the PG.

Size, defense, rebounding, and playmaking at the SG/SF spot.

Even if they don’t upgrade the center position, they can compete in the playoffs with better guard talent.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#317 » by Great » Tue Jul 2, 2019 4:07 pm

Waiving Tony Parker is a move.
I see you front office. You can do it!
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#318 » by Chapelchilla » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:23 pm

Great wrote:Waiving Tony Parker is a move.
I see you front office. You can do it!


I just cut my full season ticket package in half to a pick 23 plan at a lower price point.
I hope all the cancellations this week will send MJ a message he actually hears.
I don’t want the team to move and still support them but I cannot spend that much money if they aren’t going to spend theirs.
I may have dropped the tickets totally but they already had 40% of it and they don’t do refunds so I used the money already paid to cover my reduced package and called it a day.
They now have to show me a way forward towards building a winning team to get my business in the future.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#319 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:53 pm

Last rebuild MKG was a starter. Fans wanting Monk to go to Greensboro make me laugh. Fans who think Nic or Marvin will start as well are hilarious. We didn't let Kemba go just so we could ignore our future. Marvin, Nic and MKG and Biz are not our future.

Kupchak is going to bring in a young center and Cody will ride pine as well.

Throw out the stats on Rozier. How did he look when given real consistent minutes during that playoff push? I'm pretty sure his skill level enabled Boston to play elite basketball.

He's not the tank commander. The core young players like Monk are. You should all be rooting for Monk to chuck as hard and inefficient as Kemba did when most here swore he was at best a 6th man, undersized, low IQ, and no defense.

If JB and Kupchak were blowing smoke up our asses when they raved about Monk upon arrival, how come they never dumped him?
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Re: 2019 Offseason Thread 

Post#320 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:54 pm

$5 games are amazing as well. I plan on going often.
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