Offseason 2025 Thread

[Diop]

i think 6rs just try to rehab PG13 and give him another run unless he is shot physically.

im not sure about letting Mann walk for nothing, how about a cheap prove yourself contract for a year? he was pretty good last year

[luciano-davidwesley]

Do you feel comfortable not adding any major free agents to the group the next two summers outside of resigning Mann and Mark?

I would, at least excluding the MLE. Generally speaking free agency is not a dependable way to add top tier talent, much better to add draft assets and use them in trades.

Also we could trade Tre Mann at the deadline for an expiring, unless he really struggles next season. I guess the QO makes a lot of sense for this reason.

[fatlever]

Read on Twitter

miles obv thinks he's getting traded

[Diop]

Read on Twitter

miles obv thinks he's getting traded

hes talking about the Prison league, he must have just had a chat with BJ Mullens

[fatlever]

lol. i totally forgot the mullens prison story.

[Diop]

lol. i totally forgot the mullens prison story.

did you know about the Oak/Crash near fight?

how did i miss that??

[fatlever]

lol. i totally forgot the mullens prison story.

did you know about the Oak/Crash near fight?

how did i miss that??

not at the time, i dont think, or not specifics. knew oak was a problem. saw that crask-oak story few months back. 2008-2011 bobcats were something else.

[Diop]

lol. i totally forgot the mullens prison story.

did you know about the Oak/Crash near fight?

how did i miss that??

not at the time, i dont think, or not specifics. knew oak was a problem. saw that crask-oak story few months back. 2008-2011 bobcats were something else.

Pussyfoot talking about Oak at Chicago is pretty hilarious as well. they fought, but he still loves him, said he's like your gruff older brother

a saw another clip where Oak said he wouldn't coach again because he didn't have the patience and cited the Bobcats. He would book training for 10am and when players turned up at 0945 he would go off at them for being lazy. He said Hendo was lucky as he contacted Hendo Sr to get him to turn up early. so he avoided the heat.

SJax also talks about Silas attacking Tyrus as well. fun times.

[KembaWalker]

I just imagine Oakley coaching LaMelo would be a daily live action reenactment of a Homer strangling Bart YouTube compilation

[LofJ]

I just imagine Oakley coaching LaMelo would be a daily live action reenactment of a Homer strangling Bart YouTube compilation

Oakley: "How have you been in the league this long and still look like a weak shrimp?"

LaMelo: *laughs and says something incomprehensible to anyone over the age of 25.

[LofJ]

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[HornetJail]

side note- this team needs a Stephen Jackson in a bad way

[JMAC3]

Big Picture Here is how I think I would approach the Decision Making This Summer.

Plan 1: Draft BPA at #4, then mush the contracts of Green/Grant/Nurkic/Okogie with 2-3 firsts to add another really good player. Push for the playoffs in a weaker Eastern Conference.

Plan 2: Draft BPA #4, then blow the rest of the team up. Trade Melo, Mark, Miles for whatever you can get and just go full rebuild.

Plan 3: Trade #4 for the best player available and try to win now.

Plan 4: Draft BPA at #4, make no other moves and hope your team is healthy.

I would rather get aggressive one way then do the most basic NPC outcome possible.

[HornetJail]

combo of #1 and #3 should be the only scenarios on the table.

Ideally, we trade our lotto pick in a package for a terrific player, and then use our other nobodies and a couple picks to build up the bench unit.

[MasterIchiro]

Yeah, we could easily bank pick #4, trade (2-3) 1sts and still control all our own 1st round picks, or have 4 more available for trades.

It is impossible to move prematurely and get caught with our pants down - not when sitting on a surplus of draft capital - (11) 1sts + (12) 2nds.

We can transition pretty smoothly into a win now model, and with the top 3 teams suffering huge blows, this would be a good year to begin that transition.

Compare to the Knicks who don't have any draft capital available for trade for the next 7 years.

The worst thing that could happen is loss of LaMelo to longterm injury. Knowing that, you might select Fears #4, given the lottery is flat 3-7.

Franchise point guards are very challenging to develop. They can suck a long time like Kemba, or bomb as rookies like Scoot before they can handle the grind of running an NBA offense vs experienced, smart, well-coached veteran defenses.

If we lose LaMelo we could be set back to square one, trapped in the same boat as the rebuild teams starving for a franchise PG, like the Nets and Pelicans, rumored to be looking to trade up for Fears.

If you don't fancy Fears, still, be aggressive trading up for Harper.

[MasterIchiro]

As far as free agency goes. Inexcusable not to grab someone like NAW.

He has played in all 82 games 2 straight years, full grind. His 3PT% has held up 39% and 38% in these recent seasons.

If he wants a guaranteed starting job, you have to offer it.

He's an okay secondary playmaker as well, and the starters are missing that. Also serves as PG3 instead of KJ Simpson if Mann goes down again, or if LaMelo is down. KJ shouldn't see the court if they bring him back on another 2-way.

[Braggins]

NAW is a great target if the Hornets don't draft Edgecombe and hes willing to sign for the MLE.

[JMAC3]

As far as free agency goes. Inexcusable not to grab someone like NAW.

He has played in all 82 games 2 straight years, full grind. His 3PT% has held up 39% and 38% in these recent seasons.

If he wants a guaranteed starting job, you have to offer it.

He's an okay secondary playmaker as well, and the starters are missing that. Also serves as PG3 instead of KJ Simpson if Mann goes down again, or if LaMelo is down. KJ shouldn't see the court if they bring him back on another 2-way.

We have no cap space and everyone and their Mom has NAW high on their list. What are we offering? The Full MLE? Why would he sign with us on MLE money over staying in Minny or going to a playoff team like Lakers or Detroit for MLE money?

[MasterIchiro]

As far as free agency goes. Inexcusable not to grab someone like NAW.

He has played in all 82 games 2 straight years, full grind. His 3PT% has held up 39% and 38% in these recent seasons.

If he wants a guaranteed starting job, you have to offer it.

He's an okay secondary playmaker as well, and the starters are missing that. Also serves as PG3 instead of KJ Simpson if Mann goes down again, or if LaMelo is down. KJ shouldn't see the court if they bring him back on another 2-way.

We have no cap space and everyone and their Mom has NAW high on their list. What are we offering? The Full MLE? Why would he sign with us on MLE money over staying in Minny or going to a playoff team like Lakers or Detroit for MLE money?

I don't have a good answer for these questions, but I am definitely open to listening to the Wolves on sign-and-trades. If we can't line up a trade for NAW, we should try someone like Jrue to steady the ship at a low cost in draft capital. Or target someone like Josh Hart or Ayo Dosunmu. We have to stay nimble with trades. The good omen is we stayed active throughout this trade deadline. We are not afraid to shuffle pieces nor cut ties with guys who under JB and Cliff stood atop the pecking order like Cody Martin. Or Nick Richards.

[Diop]

apparently only Miller is the only untouchable, so i could see the front office entertaining a blow up if enough picks were offered.
Mark was a rookie and a first and a pick swap. im sure it would take an Ainge amount of picks to get Lamelo, Miles value is terrible after a career lowest season for 3pt % and social media attention. so its nothing with him.

i have my expectations low for what the front office does, so any moves that get us exciting young players will put me over the moon