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Kon Air: The Kon Knueppel Thread

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King Kon
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29%
Kon Air
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43%
Konkey Kong
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7%
Tid Bit Knueppely
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#301 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:48 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Watched most of Duke's games this year (wife is an alum) and was smitten with Kon's exceptional feel for the game. It's the kind of thing that doesn't show up in stats. You've all seen on the Hornets, for instance, Grant Williams make a big difference in team play without putting up big stats. That kind of influence on the game is what I'm talking about.

But I am not heedless to the difference between great college players and great pros. Especially watching the IND and OKC defenders whip around the floor these playoffs.

Even though I thoroughly enjoyed watching him play last year, for me Kon is behind Ace and VJ (and Tre, Fears, Jak, Bryant). But with Ace being a weenie and PHI apparently high on VJ, I just want to address the narrative that Kon can't possibly be a great pro.

Chris Mullin and Wally Szczerbiak are precursors who used advanced feel to overcome slow feet or suspect athleticism for storied careers. (Would point out that they went 7 and 6 in the draft)

But also want to add that Kon's freshman college stats were very similar to movement shooter Klay Thompson (pick #11) freshman college stats. Can you tell who's who?

Player A 6'6 200 lbs
.413 3pt%
.42 fg%
.511 efg%
.90 ft%
12.5 ppg
1.9 apg
1.5 stocks
4.2 rebs

Player B 6'6 217 lbs
.406 3pt%
.479 fg%
.59 efg%
.914 ft%
14.4 ppg
2.7 apg
1.2 stocks
4.0 rebs




(A: Klay B:Kon)
I'm a Kon fan and even though I would not take him at 4 I also see no reason why he can't be an impactful pro. Because of his exceptional feel I think he's a guy who at the very least Hornets fans will enjoy watching.


Yes and Klay was the 11th pick, which is a range that many of us would be okay taking Kon. And yes... I am not saying Klay wasn't worth the pick or I wouldn't take that outcome so please read before you rage post back at me... but if Klay is the best outcome for Kon then there are also many outcomes where he doesn't become Klay such as Joe Harris, Grayson Allen and Joe Ingles, which is why I think 4th is too high for him.

Overall, none of those guys listed at the time of the draft should have been top 5 picks, which is why I don't think it is crazy to assume Kon won't return that type of value when we look back on it in a few years.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#302 » by yosemiteben » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:28 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Yes and Klay was the 11th pick...

Worthwhile point, but I'd also mentioned that he was drafted at the tail end of a different era where movement 3 point shooting was no where near as valued or valuable as it is today with how NBA offenses function.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#303 » by JDR720 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:32 pm

I don't think the pick range is all that important. Like... what is the actual difference between the 4th and 8th pick in this draft? After Flagg and Harper, the next 5-6 guys are virtually the same level of prospect.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#304 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:41 pm

He’s just so slow. He’s not going to be able to get by anyone and every quick player is going to be able to get by him. And he doesn’t have the length to guard up on forwards.

Putting this kid at POA defender is a death sentence.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#305 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:06 pm

I'm sure some of you have seen the clips already but apparently kon was on the Bill Simmons podcast and Bill Simmons told him that he thought he would be a perfect fit in charlotte. Usually bill goes out of his way to trash the Hornets, so that was odd.

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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#306 » by LofJ » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:09 pm

fatlever wrote:I'm sure some of you have seen the clips already but apparently kon was on the Bill Simmons podcast and Bill Simmons told him that he thought he would be a perfect fit in charlotte. Usually bill goes out of his way to trash the Hornets, so that was odd.

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He did, I watched it earlier today. Makes me want to stay far away from him.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#307 » by KembaWalker » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:21 pm

That’s very much a coded read-between-the-lines diss of our current roster more than anything about Kon. Probably surrounded in superlatives about his lunch pail mentality, maturity, and other complexion based tropes
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#308 » by Braggins » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:56 pm

If hes the pick I'm calling him "La Flama Blanca"
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#309 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:25 pm

Braggins wrote:If hes the pick I'm calling him "La Flama Blanca"


i still prefer Konvection Oven
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#310 » by SWedd523 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:01 pm

fatlever wrote:I'm sure some of you have seen the clips already but apparently kon was on the Bill Simmons podcast and Bill Simmons told him that he thought he would be a perfect fit in charlotte. Usually bill goes out of his way to trash the Hornets, so that was odd.

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4D chess way of saying he sucks and he wants Charlotte to draft him so he can talk ****
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#311 » by Bassman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:35 pm

If we’re not going to pick 4th (under scenario of VJ going 3rd and brass doesn’t want Ace) I hope we trade back to get an extra first round pick via the Pelicans 7 & 23. Kon may be gone (Jazz like him a lot) so Peterson may not pull that trigger. And we think they would select Fears or Jaku there, but I don’t trust Jeffie. He may grab Maluach, or take another wild azz flyer on Queen, or Essengue, or Bryant. If the trade back is with the Nets, it better be for 8 & 19.

So maybe he’d take Kon 4th after all. Just feels like an overreach, but Jeffie was scared last year that he would lose his Tiddy if he traded back.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#312 » by JMAC3 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:56 pm

Bassman wrote:If we’re not going to pick 4th (under scenario of VJ going 3rd and brass doesn’t want Ace) I hope we trade back to get an extra first round pick via the Pelicans 7 & 23. Kon may be gone (Jazz like him a lot) so Peterson may not pull that trigger. And we think they would select Fears or Jaku there, but I don’t trust Jeffie. He may grab Maluach, or take another wild azz flyer on Queen, or Essengue, or Bryant. If the trade back is with the Nets, it better be for 8 & 19.

So maybe he’d take Kon 4th after all. Just feels like an overreach, but Jeffie was scared last year that he would lose his Tiddy if he traded back.


You have a lot more faith in picks 19 and 23 than I do, that is basically what 33 and 34 could get you.
Are you really moving back from 4 to 8 to get 2 round picks in value?
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#313 » by wilson115 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:17 am

Interesting take. GW obviously much stronger with a +4 wingspan (+1 for Kon) but interesting take.

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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#314 » by SWedd523 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:30 am

Lmao we've gone from Kon will probably never be a good defender to now he's Grant with a deadly jumper.

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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#315 » by Braggins » Thu Jun 19, 2025 1:00 am

SWedd523 wrote:Lmao we've gone from Kon will probably never be a good defender to now he's Grant with a deadly jumper.

Draft has reached peak stupidity saturation

Hes Luka mixed with Steph on offense with Grant Williams defense.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#316 » by EmpireFalls » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:32 am

We are going to get Konned into taking this no defense no athleticism mediocrity the way we got scammed into taking Salaun.

Why? Because Jeff Peterson is an inexperienced GM who doesn’t have an eye for talent. The Salaun pick made that abundantly clear. He is going to fall for Kon because he’s “safe” not realizing that a brick-footed perimeter player who’s not big enough to guard up is one of the least safe players in the NBA.

He won’t ever be a difference maker and will have to be elite offensively to make up for his complete and utter lack of athleticism. Is that safe?
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#317 » by wilson115 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:27 am

He obviously isn't saying Kon's a Grant-level stopper, that's dumb. More like Kon brings a lot of the same skills that make Grant so useful for us.

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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#318 » by Bassman » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:32 am

JMAC3 wrote:
Bassman wrote:If we’re not going to pick 4th (under scenario of VJ going 3rd and brass doesn’t want Ace) I hope we trade back to get an extra first round pick via the Pelicans 7 & 23. Kon may be gone (Jazz like him a lot) so Peterson may not pull that trigger. And we think they would select Fears or Jaku there, but I don’t trust Jeffie. He may grab Maluach, or take another wild azz flyer on Queen, or Essengue, or Bryant. If the trade back is with the Nets, it better be for 8 & 19.

So maybe he’d take Kon 4th after all. Just feels like an overreach, but Jeffie was scared last year that he would lose his Tiddy if he traded back.


You have a lot more faith in picks 19 and 23 than I do, that is basically what 33 and 34 could get you.
Are you really moving back from 4 to 8 to get 2 round picks in value?


This is a scenario basis, where the Hornets want a player more who is likely available at either 7 or 8. Disagree that a pick 19 or 23 is same value as seconds, when the talent pool has been trashed following withdrawals from so many good players. Some good players available there verses reaches most likely to be out of the league at 33 & 34.

Having said that, I’m the guy wanting us to trade Melo before the draft so we can have two swings in the lottery OR somehow get Harper. So the trade back scenarios aren’t a preference.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#319 » by Braggins » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:47 am

Kon will play small ball 5 on defense like Grant Williams. He can do everything.
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Re: The Kon Knueppel Thread 

Post#320 » by Braggins » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:48 am

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