Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[LofJ]

Yeah, moving up for Vonleh would require moving Zeller as well and that makes things very difficult for us. Outside of us getting in on a Minny/Boston trade and the Woves liking Zeller more than Vonleh I don't think it's possible. I doubt Utah has any interest in Zeller.

[Elden Payton]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

[mrknowitall215]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

What would you consider 'something major' that you could get on board with?

Personally, I think they need to make calculated moves that don't ruin their future (i.e. do not sign Luol Deng). In the mist of the fact that Charlotte need to upgrade, there's also a scenario that'll improve the team without much risk if they were to make 'middle of the road moves' to add depth. The starting lineup of 'Kemba-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson' was a constant net positive while it was the lack of quality depth from the bench that held the team back from being a lot better than they could've been

I believe adding a above average backup PG and challenging depth at the PF position is just as important as adding perimeter shooting this offseason, although the latter is the most imperative of priorities if they hope to improve from being a below average offense

[Elden Payton]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

What would you consider 'something major' that you could get on board with?

Personally, I think they need to make calculated moves that don't ruin their future (i.e. do not sign Luol Deng). In the mist of the fact that Charlotte need to upgrade, there's also a scenario that'll improve the team without much risk if they were to make 'middle of the road moves' to add depth. The starting lineup of 'Kemba-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson' was a constant net positive while it was the lack of quality depth from the bench that held the team back from being a lot better than they could've been

I believe adding a above average backup PG and challenging depth at the PF position is just as important as adding perimeter shooting this offseason, although the latter is the most imperative of priorities if they hope to improve from being a below average offense

I think we could make a run at Love without the guarantee that he'll re sign.

We could trade Al Jefferson while his value is as high as it has ever been.

Charlotte trade:


Jefferson+Henderson+#9+#24


Minny trade:

Love+Martin

Or something like:

Charlotte trade:

Jefferson+Henderson+Taylor+Neal

New Orleans trade:

Evans+Anderson+Morrow+future first

[catch20two]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

What would you consider 'something major' that you could get on board with?

Personally, I think they need to make calculated moves that don't ruin their future (i.e. do not sign Luol Deng). In the mist of the fact that Charlotte need to upgrade, there's also a scenario that'll improve the team without much risk if they were to make 'middle of the road moves' to add depth. The starting lineup of 'Kemba-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson' was a constant net positive while it was the lack of quality depth from the bench that held the team back from being a lot better than they could've been

I believe adding a above average backup PG and challenging depth at the PF position is just as important as adding perimeter shooting this offseason, although the latter is the most imperative of priorities if they hope to improve from being a below average offense

We have to add some depth at PF because I don't trust Zeller as far as I can throw him and we also gotta address that backup PG spot a lot better than washed up vets like Jameer Nelson.

We need to throw some money at Greivis Vasquez or try to make a trade for Jarrett Jack IMO. I wouldn't trust no rookie at backup PG unless he's seasoned and kinda proven like Shabazz Napier.

At PF I don't know who may become available but I'm still holding out hope for a Taj Gibson trade or possibly tryna sign Ed Davis because we need to add a rim protector alongside Jefferson if we really want to beat the top teams in the playoffs. Otherwise we're just bluffing and running on the back end of the treadmill until Jefferson's contract expire.

I'm scared of what we might do in the draft. It could set us back 2-3 years if we draft a player that'll never be better than Hendo or another defensive frontcourt player that can't shoot or score for sh*t at #9.

[mrknowitall215]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

What would you consider 'something major' that you could get on board with?

Personally, I think they need to make calculated moves that don't ruin their future (i.e. do not sign Luol Deng). In the mist of the fact that Charlotte need to upgrade, there's also a scenario that'll improve the team without much risk if they were to make 'middle of the road moves' to add depth. The starting lineup of 'Kemba-Henderson-MKG-McRoberts-Jefferson' was a constant net positive while it was the lack of quality depth from the bench that held the team back from being a lot better than they could've been

I believe adding a above average backup PG and challenging depth at the PF position is just as important as adding perimeter shooting this offseason, although the latter is the most imperative of priorities if they hope to improve from being a below average offense

I think we could make a run at Love without the guarantee that he'll re sign.

We could trade Al Jefferson while his value is as high as it has ever been.

Charlotte trade:


Jefferson+Henderson+#9+#24


Minny trade:

Love+Martin

Or something like:

Charlotte trade:

Jefferson+Henderson+Taylor+Neal

New Orleans trade:

Evans+Anderson+Morrow+future first

I'm totally opposed to trading Al Jefferson for any package short of LeBron James or Kevin Durant at this moment even though I'm intrigued by a starting frontcourt that could compliment each other as well as Kevin Love alongside Bismack Biyombo. The reason why I'm against it is because it'll set a bad precedent for a franchise that's trying to gain not only traction but some stability as a winning culture without looking like a game of musical chairs every time they start making some noise

That second deal with the Pelicans is a definite 'no' that I don't find intriguing at all, and would make Charlotte worst in the immediate future as well as into the future when a frontcourt pairing of Jefferson & Anthony Davis leave the Hornets with a mid-to-late 1st rounder centered around a core of Kemba and??? Ryan Anderson & Tyreke Evans???

[Elden Payton]

I don't want to trade Al either but it would be a major move.

I like the first package.

The second package would make us a team of-

Kemba/
Evans/Morrow
MKG/
Anderson/McBob/Zeller
Biyombo/Zeller

+#9+#24+25m in cap and the bonus of our pick+a mid first rounder for next years draft.

If Randle/Smart fall to us it would be a great move imo.

This would also put us in the mix for Okafor/Turner/Towns.

I don't want to go backwards but sometimes going backwards for a season can set up the next ten.

[HornetJail]

Somewhere, misterglover is reading these posts and really wishing he'd saved the threats that got him banned, for trades like these.

Jefferson for Evans and Anderson? Seriously?

[mrknowitall215]

I don't want to go backwards but sometimes going backwards for a season can set up the next ten.

There's no need to go backwards when they can keep moving forward from this point on into the next decade. That's why I've been overtly adamant about drafting a high upside wing like James Young (or Zach LaVine) over solid & serviceable win-now prospects like Doug McDermott and Gary Harris. Nik Stauskas fall in between this group where I wouldn't want to place a ceiling on what he could be, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if he peak out as a slightly better J.J. Redick

With that said, take a look at the next wave of young talent. I'd say Charlotte is on par to be just as good or better in the future than the Wizards, Raptors, and Magic, but it remain questionable what may become of the Sixers, Bucks, and Cavaliers pending on how well Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins, and Joel Embiid pan out

[MasterIchiro]

Big Al is out on the recruiting trail and he's a fan favorite. I don't think he gets traded. There must be a plan to really build around him this offseason and make a serious run next year and the one after.

From all accounts it seems Charlotte will go all out.

It's all part of the branding.

I'm starting to think Lance Stephenson is realistic.

[TheKingofSting2]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

Getting Randle would be part of a major plan.

[Elden Payton]

No to Parsons and not taking on Crash for moving up 3 spots.

We either have to stay the course or do something major imo.

No middle of the road moves this offseason hopefully.

Getting Randle would be part of a major plan.

I hope we get Randle at #9.

We will literally be this years Pistons and draft the player that shouldn't have fallen on draft night.

[Eoghan]

Trading Jefferson for Love (ha!) would not set a bad precedent for Charlotte. Fans would flock to games in droves to see a white all-star caliber player in a Hornets uniform. Kemba, Lance, MKG, Love, Biyombo wins playoff games but I don't know how many. Love can't be your best player if want to be a contender probably, but if Lance or some other FA/rookie Sg really turns a corner into stardom then it would get very interesting.

And I think Charlotte can get away with taking on Crash's awful contract b/c having him in a Hornet jersey will sell enough merch to help offset his downward spiral as a player but maybe I'm thinking outside the box too much.

[Elden Payton]

Somewhere, misterglover is reading these posts and really wishing he'd saved the threats that got him banned, for trades like these.

Jefferson for Evans and Anderson? Seriously?

Biz,I've been advocating signing Jefferson as early as 2012.

Here is a thread from January 2013 where I state he is my preferred FA target.

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1227980

That said, I'm not sure we are anything more than Playoff fodder as presently constructed.

[Elden Payton]

Trading Jefferson for Love (ha!) would not set a bad precedent for Charlotte. Fans would flock to games in droves to see a white all-star caliber player in a Hornets uniform. Kemba, Lance, MKG, Love, Biyombo wins playoff games but I don't know how many. Love can't be your best player if want to be a contender probably, but if Lance or some other FA/rookie Sg really turns a corner into stardom then it would get very interesting.

I would love dealing for Love.

[mrknowitall215]

Trading Jefferson for Love (ha!) would not set a bad precedent for Charlotte. Fans would flock to games in droves to see a white all-star caliber player in a Hornets uniform. Kemba, Lance, MKG, Love, Biyombo wins playoff games but I don't know how many. Love can't be your best player if want to be a contender probably, but if Lance or some other FA/rookie Sg really turns a corner into stardom then it would get very interesting.

And I think Charlotte can get away with taking on Crash's awful contract b/c having him in a Hornet jersey will sell enough merch to help offset his downward spiral as a player but maybe I'm thinking outside the box too much.

Oh, yes it would be a 'bad precedent' because Kevin Love has faulty leadership and he doesn't accept accountability. There's a good chance that Charlotte's locker room as presently constructed would fall apart with a ego like Love leading the way after trading away a good character guy that I'm sure the entire roster got along with like Jefferson. Then throw in the fact that Love would test free agency because he want to play in a big market and really doesn't see Charlotte as a ideal city to win championships in as he stated in a article taken out of context. It also would raise questions among the roster whereas none of the players would feel safe knowing that no matter how well they perform they could be traded tomorrow for the next big name commodity. There's a silver lining that could lead to gold in continuity. Constant change only lead to chaos & turmoil

[ARHornet]

Or something like:

Charlotte trade:

Jefferson+Henderson+Taylor+Neal

New Orleans trade:

Evans+Anderson+Morrow+future first

If we were to consider trading Al (we aren't and we shouldn't), I'd hope we could get a lot more than a deal centered around Tyreke Evans and Ryan Anderson.

[JDR720]

Al for Davis, do it Cho

[mrknowitall215]

Al for Davis, do it Cho

[HornetJail]

Love would leave in a year. He seems to know where he wants to go, and would only extend with a couple teams. He's an even worse defender than Big Al and not even half the leader. No thanks. Kevin Love is NOT the answer to a team that has struggled to get anywhere.