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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#321 » by PG13 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 9:49 pm

fatlever wrote:Didn't Lin train this summer with washed up streetballer "The Professor" to help him with his handles? Yeah, how's that working out? Maybe Lin needs to work with better trainers. LOL. Just kidding fellas. Well, sorta, maybe.. I mean, Professor? Seriously? Was Hot Sauce busy?


Well, Lin's handle DID improve. It tells you how bad it used to be lol.
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Post#322 » by bws94 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 10:07 pm

13th Man wrote:Personally I think he's been trying too hard after the Cleveland game to make an impact, when both Nic and Kemba are playing well. On this team, he is a role player and his role is to cover for those guys when they're not there or don't have it. So far he's done a pretty good job of that imo. I think he runs into difficulty when he tries to expand outside of that or is confused on what his role is on the team.


I find his role larger than that. Organize the second unit and be its PG or main facilitator. But beyond that when on with the starters he is called on to penetrate and break down the defense to create for himself or others. Provide energy and hustle and be part of good transition basketball when possible. Draw fouls. I think this is a big one because not only does he go to the line for points, he gets teams in penalities. And, as we saw in the Wizards game, be in there to take big shots if they present themselves and sometimes he is an option on a play or the play is called for him.

I don't think he should think of Batum or Kemba at all except to play off of them and they play off of him. He shouldn't defer to them which I think is a mistake in his mental approach to the game. He shouldn't defer. He should just be confident and make plays. There are plenty of times Lin is on with Kemba or Batum and makes plays whether it was the one stretch in a recent game where just about every play went to him (Kemba kept feeding him the ball) and resulted in assists for about 5 consecutive plays, late in games on with Batum where he makes big drives and scores or gets fouled and knocks down free throws or creates for others. Or when he took over in one OT with both Kemba and he on the floor in the Kings OT game (he was relatively quiet until OT in that game). Sometimes, I feel like hit the Go button on Lin's back because I think he just doesn't put himself in the flow of the offense. But he's always there on the other side playing hard, he doesn't let up on D.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#323 » by bws94 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 11:20 pm

Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#324 » by PG13 » Tue Feb 9, 2016 11:39 pm

New blog post by Lin, if you guys are into these kind of things:

http://www.jlin7.com/blogs/journal/85524036-happy-chinese-new-year
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#325 » by fatlever » Tue Feb 9, 2016 11:40 pm

bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301


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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#326 » by fatlever » Tue Feb 9, 2016 11:41 pm

The All-Star break is much needed for that ankle.
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Post#327 » by Tracymcgoaty » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:05 am

fatlever wrote:
bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301


:o


Wow..they should honestly force him to sit the last game..unneccesary game for him if its that swollen. might come back and make it even worse.
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Post#328 » by TinmanZBoy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:24 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:
fatlever wrote:
bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301


:o


Wow..they should honestly force him to sit the last game..unneccesary game for him if its that swollen. might come back and make it even worse.


he has had that tennis ball like ankle for a while, been playing through it, so i guess he will play

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Post#329 » by 13th Man » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:26 am

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13th Man wrote:Personally I think he's been trying too hard after the Cleveland game to make an impact, when both Nic and Kemba are playing well. On this team, he is a role player and his role is to cover for those guys when they're not there or don't have it. So far he's done a pretty good job of that imo. I think he runs into difficulty when he tries to expand outside of that or is confused on what his role is on the team.


I find his role larger than that. Organize the second unit and be its PG or main facilitator. But beyond that when on with the starters he is called on to penetrate and break down the defense to create for himself or others. Provide energy and hustle and be part of good transition basketball when possible. Draw fouls. I think this is a big one because not only does he go to the line for points, he gets teams in penalities. And, as we saw in the Wizards game, be in there to take big shots if they present themselves and sometimes he is an option on a play or the play is called for him.

I don't think he should think of Batum or Kemba at all except to play off of them and they play off of him. He shouldn't defer to them which I think is a mistake in his mental approach to the game. He shouldn't defer. He should just be confident and make plays. There are plenty of times Lin is on with Kemba or Batum and makes plays whether it was the one stretch in a recent game where just about every play went to him (Kemba kept feeding him the ball) and resulted in assists for about 5 consecutive plays, late in games on with Batum where he makes big drives and scores or gets fouled and knocks down free throws or creates for others. Or when he took over in one OT with both Kemba and he on the floor in the Kings OT game (he was relatively quiet until OT in that game). Sometimes, I feel like hit the Go button on Lin's back because I think he just doesn't put himself in the flow of the offense. But he's always there on the other side playing hard, he doesn't let up on D.


I see your point but when it comes down to it, Clifford will trust Batum and Kemba more than Lin to facilitate, especially lately. That's just the way it goes and as long as the Hornets are winning using this formula, Lin doesn't really have a strong case. I'm not saying that this should be the formula ALL the time because we've seen the tide change many times throughout the season. Each player will go through hot and cold streaks, it just so happens that right now Batum and Kemba are playing well and Lin is not, so Lin doesn't have a strong case to be the main facilitator. Also, both Batum and Kemba also have longer leashes with Clifford because of their stature on this team so they will get the benefit over Lin more often than not.

Remember when Lin was playing well a few weeks ago, Clifford was playing him 30+ mins/game and in a couple of games he logged more minutes than Kemba. I know we were shortmanned but still, he earned those minutes, this is Clifford's philosophy he likes to play the hot hand so to speak. Now that MKG and Lamb are back, court time is harder to compete for so Lin has to be on top of his game to deserve good minutes again. Clifford gave him a small opportunity after the Cavs game and Lin fell flat with the 2nd unit, and since then he's been relying more on Batum and Kemba. Lin is in a funk right now which he has to get himself out of, a good start would be to hit some wide open shots.
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Post#330 » by HornetJail » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:25 am

bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301

****, my ankle's looked like that a couple times and I couldn't even fit it in my shoes let alone play basketball on it.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#331 » by lin is ok » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:51 am

That ankle explains alot, got to give him . Fighting through this.
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Post#332 » by bws94 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:55 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301

****, my ankle's looked like that a couple times and I couldn't even fit it in my shoes let alone play basketball on it.


I guess Lin ices it, maybe gets a shot, pops some anti-inflammatories, tapes it up and has a high pain threshold. Most professional athletes have really high pain thresholds.
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Post#333 » by PG13 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:09 pm

You guys are crazy. You don't think the photo was taken yesterday, do you? Lin said his ankle "looked like there was a tennis ball in it for a while". Past tense.
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Post#334 » by LofJ » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:28 pm

I think Lin and Lamb will both have a bounce back game tonight and get us the W against the Pacers.
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Post#335 » by bws94 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:25 pm

PG13 wrote:You guys are crazy. You don't think the photo was taken yesterday, do you? Lin said his ankle "looked like there was a tennis ball in it for a while". Past tense.


When do you think it was taken? I was assuming recently but you may be right, it may have been from earlier in the injury.
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Post#336 » by TTNN » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:12 pm

bws94 wrote:
PG13 wrote:You guys are crazy. You don't think the photo was taken yesterday, do you? Lin said his ankle "looked like there was a tennis ball in it for a while". Past tense.


When do you think it was taken? I was assuming recently but you may be right, it may have been from earlier in the injury.


I think PG13 was suggesting that was taken recently, not earlier. Since Lin said it was like a tennis ball in it, and that picture looks like much smaller than tennis ball. What PG13 was trying to say is that it was worse before............
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#337 » by TTNN » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:15 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
bws94 wrote:Lin posted a picture his leg/foot getting acupuncture. The ankle is quite swollen.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0141/8642/files/jeremy_ankle_large.jpg?102702059129147301

****, my ankle's looked like that a couple times and I couldn't even fit it in my shoes let alone play basketball on it.


In Bull's game, Dell said Lin was wearing a pair of red shoes to celebrate Chinese New Year, and that was a 3/4 low cut. Looks like Lin might have to have a lower cut shoe to fit that ankle then......
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Post#338 » by leeramundo » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:12 pm

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fatlever wrote:Didn't Lin train this summer with washed up streetballer "The Professor" to help him with his handles? Yeah, how's that working out? Maybe Lin needs to work with better trainers. LOL. Just kidding fellas. Well, sorta, maybe.. I mean, Professor? Seriously? Was Hot Sauce busy?


Well, Lin's handle DID improve. It tells you how bad it used to be lol.


I'm no expert but I would tend to think handling the ball in a street ball setting where you're not really supposed to play defense is going to be different from handling the ball in the NBA. That said I guess it has improved, still got ways to go though.
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Post#339 » by TinmanZBoy » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:14 pm

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PG13 wrote:
fatlever wrote:Didn't Lin train this summer with washed up streetballer "The Professor" to help him with his handles? Yeah, how's that working out? Maybe Lin needs to work with better trainers. LOL. Just kidding fellas. Well, sorta, maybe.. I mean, Professor? Seriously? Was Hot Sauce busy?


Well, Lin's handle DID improve. It tells you how bad it used to be lol.


I'm no expert but I would tend to think handling the ball in a street ball setting where you're not really supposed to play defense is going to be different from handling the ball in the NBA. That said I guess it has improved, still got ways to go though.


there are a lot good ball handlers who could not make NBA, you still can learn from them... "the professor" is based in LA, lakers like D'Lo, Clarkson all got some tips from him too.... lin has good ball handling fundamentals, decent crossover, bad behind the back dribbles... not good at changing gears and dribbling in and out... basically needs to improve his footwork
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Post#340 » by lin is ok » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:30 am

The hornets will be playing maybe 12 games without MKG . So is Clifford going back to PJ with the starters? or does lin get moved back up to the starting position?

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