The Jeffery "Mother Viking" Taylor Thread

[catch20two]

Yeah I think Jeff is a workout/exhibition game warrior.

Time to relegate him to a minimal role or gauge his value.

On the trade board there is some talk of a Tyreke trade involving BG+Rocky, I'd even give them Taylor instead of Rocky.

Why do the Pelicans want to trade Tyreke? He's been their best player not named Anthony Davis from the couple of games I've seen. I'd take that trade in a heartbeat. I'd even give them the POR pick for that deal if they are just looking for cap space.

[Elden Payton]

Yeah I think Jeff is a workout/exhibition game warrior.

Time to relegate him to a minimal role or gauge his value.

On the trade board there is some talk of a Tyreke trade involving BG+Rocky, I'd even give them Taylor instead of Rocky.

Why do the Pelicans want to trade Tyreke? He's been their best player not named Anthony Davis from the couple of games I've seen. I'd take that trade in a heartbeat. I'd even give them the POR pick for that deal if they are just looking for cap space.

I'm not sure and it's not a Pels fan suggesting it.

I'd do it in a heartbeat, targeting a freshly inked deal like Evans is a good way to make use of the BG FA war chest contract.

[JDR720]

i might do that, doesn't help our spacing at all but Evans is a solid player who can play 3 postions, i'd trade them Gerald with JT for Evans

[thruthefire]

I don't want Evans at $11MM for the next three seasons, especially given our current roster. I think that money can be better spent.

[JDR720]

good point thruthefire he is overpaid, can get 2 solid bench players for 11million or a better starter than Evans would be

[fatlever]

evans doesnt help this roster at all. he is every bit as bad of a shooter as the wings we have and he is only effective when the ball is in his hands, which takes the ball away from kemba. no thanks. save the money or spend it on a wing that can shoot.

[catch20two]

Back on topic, Taylor is playing Dominic McGuire level basketball. It's a issue.

[mrknowitall215]

Never a better time for Bobcats' Jeff Taylor to realize his considerable potential

Jeff Taylor has the most unrealized potential among current Charlotte Bobcats. That has to change.

Preferably over the next four to six weeks.

That’s how long Michael Kidd-Gilchrist will be out after fracturing his left hand Tuesday in a road loss to the Dallas Mavericks. Taylor is the obvious first option to pick up Kidd-Gilchrist’s minutes. I hope he sees this as a great opportunity, because he needs to function that way.

Taylor was terrific from the start of summer league in Las Vegas through Eurobasket playing for Sweden through the Bobcats’ preseason. He way outperformed Kidd-Gilchrist in that span of time. I saw it, I wrote it.

Trouble is, once the games started counting, Taylor shrunk a little. He’s shooting just 38 percent from the field and averaging 7.9 points. He’s now gone eight games without reaching double figures.

Even with Kidd-Gilchrist out, Taylor never played in the second half against the Mavericks. Yeah, that was partially about a good matchup to play Anthony Tolliver, but if Taylor was playing well, that would have been moot.

Now it’s no longer optional that Taylor plays. He must play better and that’s certainly within his grasp.

Bobcats coach Steve Clifford often talks about Taylor’s gifts: His strength, quickness and intelligence (even athletes don’t just get into Vanderbilt) make him a natural defender. Beyond that he’s a 3-point shooter on a team lacking for 3s and maybe the best leaper on this roster (just ask Gerald Henderson, no slouch athletically).

Kidd-Gilchrist doesn’t have Taylor’s wide skill set. But he’s intense in a way that is constructive. I asked Kidd-Gilchrist Saturday about playing LeBron James, and his answer was illuminating: That while he respected James, he doesn’t back down to anyone.

That’s how he played Sunday night in what was almost a big upset. He doesn’t back down.

Taylor isn’t always that assertive. He needs to impose himself, and there’s never been a better time than the next month to do so.

Everyone in that organization sees Taylor’s potential. It’s up to him now to turn talent into production.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... ntial.html

Uh oh! It's Jeffery Taylor time!

[amcoolio]

JT just needs to pretend its Eurobasket. Demand the ball, drive to the rim, and go up for oops. the 3's will fall.

Taylor is one of those players that plays much better starting than coming off the bench

[catch20two]

Eurobasket is a soft league. Isn't our leftovers of Derrick Brown a Eurobasket MVP? I take success over there with a grain of salt. Taylor better man up if he want to be a real player in the NBA.

[Radu_Hornets]

I'll give him this last chance... I always been high on him.
However, if he screw that up, my mind will probably change.

[fatlever]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/1 ... qFJ5eLjWdA

[JDR720]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/12/05/4523185/new-charlotte-bobcats-starter.html#.UqFJ5eLjWdA

While Taylor is a very good defender, Kidd-Gilchrist is the Bobcats’ best defender.

well this is half right, JT cant defend anyone with skill, MKG is our best defender my miles

[LamarMatic7]

Eurobasket is a soft league. Isn't our leftovers of Derrick Brown a Eurobasket MVP? I take success over there with a grain of salt. Taylor better man up if he want to be a real player in the NBA.

You're confusing two completely different things.

Derrick Brown was the month's MVP of Euroleague, the premier international league for European clubs. I'd say that the level of play there is very good.

Jeff Taylor excelled in the European Championship for national teams which you can also call "Eurobasket" (fun fact - the African championship is Afrobasket, lol). He did so by playing on a bad Swedish team where he could shoot as much as he wanted and by playing in a diluted EuroBasket as they have expanded to more teams. Not to mention that this year there were a few negative surprises, good teams like Russia and Turkey turned out to be absolutely horrible.

Thus UPS has definitely achieved something more notable than Taylor's average of 20 points per game.

[COURTSIDE 93]

So what's the consensus on Jeff Taylor? Do we like him or do we hate him?

[mrknowitall215]

So what's the consensus on Jeff Taylor? Do we like him or do we hate him?

I don't think anybody around here "hate him", but 'dislike' his performance on the basketball floor? Yes. Jeff Taylor receives too many minutes than he deserve and delivers too little production than what he's expected to be capable of

[HornetJail]

Taylor's biggest issue is and always has been his maddening inconsistency. I think he's in a slump to start the season and hope he'll snap out of it while playing a different role. I'd hold on to him because I like his chances as a 3&D stud someday.



I think more of us get pissed off at his play because he's not MKG and Clifford plays MKG less minutes than he should (before injury obviously).

[hotrod]

Taylor's biggest issue is and always has been his maddening inconsistency. I think he's in a slump to start the season and hope he'll snap out of it while playing a different role. I'd hold on to him because I like his chances as a 3&D stud someday.



I think more of us get pissed off at his play because he's not MKG and Clifford plays MKG less minutes than he should (before injury obviously).

JT should be starting at 2 with MKG at 3, but the resigning Hendo messed that up. We need to develop both JT and MKG along with Biz and Zeller. These guys all need playing time to see what we got and to position ourselves in the lottery. Winning games this year is a waste of time. Player development is what we should be more focused on.

[catch20two]

What do Taylor do that Hendo can't do? We don't need to start no damn Taylor over Hendo for developmental or any other purpose. We have Hendo locked down for 3 years on a decent valued contract. If we can embed in Hendo's head to camp out beyond the arc and shoot more 3s than he'll be 100x better than Taylor ever will be. Taylor is still working on becoming a solid backup, never mind starting. Let's not fall in love with the new shiny things. Taylor is probably only a year or 2 younger than Hendo at that.

[Liver_Pooty]

What do Taylor do that Hendo can't do? We don't need to start no damn Taylor over Hendo for developmental or any other purpose. We have Hendo locked down for 3 years on a decent valued contract. If we can embed in Hendo's head to camp out beyond the arc and shoot more 3s than he'll be 100x better than Taylor ever will be. Taylor is still working on becoming a solid backup, never mind starting. Let's not fall in love with the new shiny things. Taylor is probably only a year or 2 younger than Hendo at that.

Lol man do you hate Jeff Taylor. Hes not as good of a defender as Henderson, and he definitely can't do that awfully difficult fade away that Henderson does, but other than that they are equal in every facet of the game. Taylor is probably a better overall athlete than Henderson, but thats close. Taylor doesn't need to start when MKG returns, but I wouldn't be surprised or upset if he did, especially if he plays really well over the next month.