Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread

[BigSlam]

Quiet a few people on here rating Lin over Walker. I thoroughly look forward to sitting back and watching some nice debates over the next season.

I may be over it already - and it hasn't even begun yet!!

Going to be a longgggggg season.


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[KN5]

Quiet a few people on here rating Lin over Walker. I thoroughly look forward to sitting back and watching some nice debates over the next season.

I agree, however, you can't deny he has the potential to start over Kemba if he impresses right?

I don't think it's gonna be LP you'll be arguing with on that one. Go back and read the early posts on the Jeremy Lamb thread if you want to know who to ask this question.

Yeah haven't followed that thread, apologies

[mrknowitall215]

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I have no problems itch Lin fans wondering about him starting or finishing games. Kemba is just one guy who is going to have to show that he really can hang as a starter on a non-tanking team with loads of shooters. MKG, Zeller, and others are in the same banana boat.

[Eoghan]

Completely inappropriate.

- Slam

[bws94]

Lin fan. Not an extreme one. Promise you guys. Question. Is there an Ed Davis type of player on the Hornets? Lin played his best ball with Ed Davis in PnR. He also knows Troy Daniels from the Rockets, he loves having guys on the perimeter that can sink 3s. Lin is best with PnR players, worse with ISO players. His defense is shaky at PnR, good at post up strong guards, good at blocking shots, great at taking charges and getting steals, so-so at keeping guys in front of him. His handles can be shaky leading to TOs. I hope he worked on it hard during the off-season. I'll be watching every game and I love team play so I'll be into the whole team, not just Lin.

[catch20two]

Lin fan. Not an extreme one. Promise you guys. Question. Is there an Ed Davis type of player on the Hornets? Lin played his best ball with Ed Davis in PnR. He also knows Troy Daniels from the Rockets, he loves having guys on the perimeter that can sink 3s. Lin is best with PnR players, worse with ISO players. His defense is shaky at PnR, good at post up strong guards, good at blocking shots, great at taking charges and getting steals, so-so at keeping guys in front of him. His handles can be shaky leading to TOs. I hope he worked on it hard during the off-season. I'll be watching every game and I love team play so I'll be into the whole team, not just Lin.

Zeller might be the closest to being a decent PnR player to Ed Davis but he'll get blocked to the ground a lot attacking the rim off it. He'll have the occasional highlight dunk tho. Don't have that little hook or floater game that Ed had.

[catch20two]

He know his place. Gonna be a great backup. This should be a good season. Only the Kemba haters are gonna make this a debate.

[Braggins]

Fat Al is such a bummer... Making it hard for me to get excited about anything, even obviously good deals like this.

Lin fans should not be hoping for him to start. Playing all his minutes with Al is the last thing you guys should want. Trust me. Im jealous you guys will get to see Lin doing pick roll/pops with Kaminsky and Hawes while Kemba will still be stuck standing around on the wing waiting for Al to pass to him with 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

[nikeykid]

Fat Al is such a bummer... Making it hard for me to get excited about anything, even obviously good deals like this.

Lin fans should not be hoping for him to start. Playing all his minutes with Al is the last thing you guys should want. Trust me. Im jealous you guys will get to see Lin doing pick roll/pops with Kaminsky and Hawes while Kemba will still be stuck standing around on the wing waiting for Al to pass to him with 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

haha sounds like playing with kobe (in his current form)

[catch20two]

Fat Al is such a bummer... Making it hard for me to get excited about anything, even obviously good deals like this.

Lin fans should not be hoping for him to start. Playing all his minutes with Al is the last thing you guys should want. Trust me. Im jealous you guys will get to see Lin doing pick roll/pops with Kaminsky and Hawes while Kemba will still be stuck standing around on the wing waiting for Al to pass to him with 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

I got a feeling that Zeller gonna lose that spot to Kaminsky if he don't act better off that pick-n-pop instead of just being a prop. With that said looking at the lineup Kaminsky fit better with the starters and Zeller with the 2nd unit. Anyways I hate 2nd units. The coach should stagger the lineups. 4 to 5 bench players should hardly ever be in the game together all at once. That's asking for a negative outcome usually.

[spaceballer]

Lin fan. Not an extreme one. Promise you guys. Question. Is there an Ed Davis type of player on the Hornets? Lin played his best ball with Ed Davis in PnR. He also knows Troy Daniels from the Rockets, he loves having guys on the perimeter that can sink 3s. Lin is best with PnR players, worse with ISO players. His defense is shaky at PnR, good at post up strong guards, good at blocking shots, great at taking charges and getting steals, so-so at keeping guys in front of him. His handles can be shaky leading to TOs. I hope he worked on it hard during the off-season. I'll be watching every game and I love team play so I'll be into the whole team, not just Lin.

Zeller might be the closest to being a decent PnR player to Ed Davis but he'll get blocked to the ground a lot attacking the rim off it. He'll have the occasional highlight dunk tho. Don't have that little hook or floater game that Ed had.

He doesn't have to be a copy of Ed Davis. Lin is able to work with all sorts of bigs, as long as they are PnR bigs. Meaning if they set good screens, know when to roll to the basket, and anticipate passes from Lin.

If you look at the PnR partners that Lin has successfully spoonfed, you'll see a large offensive variety. Tyson Chandler played above the rim with alley oops and dunks. Omer Asik didn't leap at all and rarely dunked, he does his ballerina layups. And of course, you have Ed Davis.

If your big is a Pick-and-roll player, Lin will find him and feed him. Spoonfed in the case of guys like Asik who really have little offensive game, but became a double double player with Lin.

He's even done pick-and-pops with Patrick Patterson and Carlos Boozer. But pick and pops tend not to be as efficient as pick and rolls, due to the higher FG% of shots closer to the rim as well as the greater And-1 chance.

Is there a dearth of PnR bigs on the team besides Zeller? I wonder if that's what they're holding onto the MLE for.

[Braggins]

Fat Al is such a bummer... Making it hard for me to get excited about anything, even obviously good deals like this.

Lin fans should not be hoping for him to start. Playing all his minutes with Al is the last thing you guys should want. Trust me. Im jealous you guys will get to see Lin doing pick roll/pops with Kaminsky and Hawes while Kemba will still be stuck standing around on the wing waiting for Al to pass to him with 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

I got a feeling that Zeller gonna lose that spot to Kaminsky if he don't act better off that pick-n-pop instead of just being a prop. With that said looking at the lineup Kaminsky fit better with the starters and Zeller with the 2nd unit. Anyways I hate 2nd units. The coach should stagger the lineups. 4 to 5 bench players should hardly ever be in the game together all at once. That's asking for a negative outcome usually.

Al/Frank seems like a nightmare defensively, but they do make a lot more sense than on offense. Honestly, Im 100% ready to make Frank starting center. Cody/Frank is our best combo imo. I dont even care if we have to suffer through some rookie growing pains with Frank. We already know Al doesnt help us on either side of the ball.

[catch20two]

:(

Fat Al is such a bummer... Making it hard for me to get excited about anything, even obviously good deals like this.

Lin fans should not be hoping for him to start. Playing all his minutes with Al is the last thing you guys should want. Trust me. Im jealous you guys will get to see Lin doing pick roll/pops with Kaminsky and Hawes while Kemba will still be stuck standing around on the wing waiting for Al to pass to him with 4 seconds left on the shot clock.

I got a feeling that Zeller gonna lose that spot to Kaminsky if he don't act better off that pick-n-pop instead of just being a prop. With that said looking at the lineup Kaminsky fit better with the starters and Zeller with the 2nd unit. Anyways I hate 2nd units. The coach should stagger the lineups. 4 to 5 bench players should hardly ever be in the game together all at once. That's asking for a negative outcome usually.

Al/Frank seems like a nightmare defensively, but they do make a lot more sense than on offense. Honestly, Im 100% ready to make Frank starting center. Cody/Frank is our best combo imo. I dont even care if we have to suffer through some rookie growing pains with Frank. We already know Al doesnt help us on either side of the ball.

I know you can't stand Al and I can't stand him on certain occasions and 99% of last season but if he lose 20-30 pounds and get back to his 13-14 self then I'm gonna love him this season all the way to a top 5 spot in the East.

I'm not worried about our defense as long as MKG is healthy and playing. You take MKG out the lineup, bring back Biz and start him with Zeller our defense won't be top 10.

[Braggins]

Lin fan. Not an extreme one. Promise you guys. Question. Is there an Ed Davis type of player on the Hornets? Lin played his best ball with Ed Davis in PnR. He also knows Troy Daniels from the Rockets, he loves having guys on the perimeter that can sink 3s. Lin is best with PnR players, worse with ISO players. His defense is shaky at PnR, good at post up strong guards, good at blocking shots, great at taking charges and getting steals, so-so at keeping guys in front of him. His handles can be shaky leading to TOs. I hope he worked on it hard during the off-season. I'll be watching every game and I love team play so I'll be into the whole team, not just Lin.

Zeller might be the closest to being a decent PnR player to Ed Davis but he'll get blocked to the ground a lot attacking the rim off it. He'll have the occasional highlight dunk tho. Don't have that little hook or floater game that Ed had.

He doesn't have to be a copy of Ed Davis. Lin is able to work with all sorts of bigs, as long as they are PnR bigs. Meaning if they set good screens, know when to roll to the basket, and anticipate passes from Lin.

Is there a dearth of PnR bigs on the team besides Zeller?

Man, I wish I could find the .gif someone made last year of Al setting "screens". Youd laugh your ass off before inevitably crying when you realized thats our "best player" (in the opinion of our coach).

[spaceballer]

One concern I have is the pace of the game, especially with Al in it.

Lin is great in transition and pushing the pace, but is the team around him able to handle those fast breaks? Even Omer Asik, who was huge, was a very mobile big in spurts, with the Rockets being a running team. Tyson Chandler and Ed Davis were fast getting up and down the court, too.

What are the prospects for this team running fast breaks? Or does Big Al prove to be too much of an anchor?

[spaceballer]

:(

I got a feeling that Zeller gonna lose that spot to Kaminsky if he don't act better off that pick-n-pop instead of just being a prop. With that said looking at the lineup Kaminsky fit better with the starters and Zeller with the 2nd unit. Anyways I hate 2nd units. The coach should stagger the lineups. 4 to 5 bench players should hardly ever be in the game together all at once. That's asking for a negative outcome usually.

Al/Frank seems like a nightmare defensively, but they do make a lot more sense than on offense. Honestly, Im 100% ready to make Frank starting center. Cody/Frank is our best combo imo. I dont even care if we have to suffer through some rookie growing pains with Frank. We already know Al doesnt help us on either side of the ball.

I know you can't stand Al and I can't stand him on certain occasions and 99% of last season but if he lose 20-30 pounds and get back to his 13-14 self then I'm gonna love him this season all the way to a top 5 spot in the East.

I'm not worried about our defense as long as MKG is healthy and playing. You take MKG out the lineup, bring back Biz and start him with Zeller our defense won't be top 10.

Any word on the coach's off-season instructions for Al or if he's actually going to lose that weight this summer?

[Flip Murray]

This is such a great pickup because Lin will mesh so well with our second unit. He's going to shine in that role whereas he could easily get marginalized by Al. Lin is a dude you hand the freaking keys to you don't sit him at the 3 point line and have him stand there. He's going to run the show on the second unit and opens up a lot of interesting lineup combinations.

[Braggins]

One concern I have is the pace of the game, especially with Al in it.

Lin is great in transition and pushing the pace, but is the team around him able to handle those fast breaks? Even Omer Asik, who was huge, was a very mobile big in spurts, with the Rockets being a running team. Tyson Chandler and Ed Davis were fast getting up and down the court, too.

What are the prospects for this team running fast breaks? Or does Big Al prove to be too much of an anchor?

We werent able to push the pace last year with Al despite our other four starters being Kemba, Lance/Hendo, MKG, and Zeller. Lin should be able to find success doing so with the second unit though.

[Braggins]

:(
Al/Frank seems like a nightmare defensively, but they do make a lot more sense than on offense. Honestly, Im 100% ready to make Frank starting center. Cody/Frank is our best combo imo. I dont even care if we have to suffer through some rookie growing pains with Frank. We already know Al doesnt help us on either side of the ball.

I know you can't stand Al and I can't stand him on certain occasions and 99% of last season but if he lose 20-30 pounds and get back to his 13-14 self then I'm gonna love him this season all the way to a top 5 spot in the East.

I'm not worried about our defense as long as MKG is healthy and playing. You take MKG out the lineup, bring back Biz and start him with Zeller our defense won't be top 10.

Any word on the coach's off-season instructions for Al or if he's actually going to lose that weight this summer?

They have talked of needing there to be a clear line of communication about what he needs to work on and theyve very bluntly said he needs to lose weight. There hasnt been any word on actual progress. Cho said in his pre-draft presser that Al had been cleared to play for a while and had been working out "here and there". I didnt really get a positive vibe from that and given his history I honestly have little hope for Al changing his ways.