GT: Hornets vs Celtics Wed Dec 23 7PM EST

[bigbob]

Something is off. You usually have a little drop off after winning four or five in a row but we have hit rock bottom and fast.


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its not something..the reason is extremely obvious when you look at game by game stats of kemba walker. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6479/kemba-walker

whenever he shoots under 40% fg, we LOSE. Every single game this season has been the case. That means we live and die with kemba walker. Unfortunately for cliff, even though he knows this, he doesn't do anything about it. When kemba is having these types of games, sit him on the bench!

[bws94]

I just don't think we're that good to be honest. Improved from last year, but so is everyone else. If we had MKG it'd be a different story.

Keep the faith. The team has to play more like a team. Our sets have become predictable. Our weapons are being neutralized and our shots aren't falling like they did earlier. Maybe Al matters against teams like the Celtics and Magic. Maybe the Celtics are a bad matchup. We played a lot of +.500 teams but this is certainly a downward trend in the quality of team plays in these 3 losses. Right the ship on Saturday. Hopefully.

[MasterIchiro]

Say what you will about Clifford's minutes management

Marvin-17
PJ-13
Hawes-6

I like those numbers.

Cliff harping on turnovers but man we shot 35% for the game. Still hasn't said anything about missing wide open shots.

[MasterIchiro]

Something is off. You usually have a little drop off after winning four or five in a row but we have hit rock bottom and fast.


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its not something..the reason is extremely obvious when you look at game by game stats of kemba walker. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6479/kemba-walker

whenever he shoots under 40% fg, we LOSE. Every single game this season has been the case. That means we live and die with kemba walker. Unfortunately for cliff, even though he knows this, he doesn't do anything about it. When kemba is having these types of games, sit him on the bench!

Batik has disappeared and the offense no longer runs through him. That's the difference.

[bws94]

Something is off. You usually have a little drop off after winning four or five in a row but we have hit rock bottom and fast.


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its not something..the reason is extremely obvious when you look at game by game stats of kemba walker. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6479/kemba-walker

whenever he shoots under 40% fg, we LOSE. Every single game this season has been the case. That means we live and die with kemba walker. Unfortunately for cliff, even though he knows this, he doesn't do anything about it. When kemba is having these types of games, sit him on the bench!

Batik has disappeared and the offense no longer runs through him. That's the difference.

He's getting a bit of the old game back tonight. He looked closer to his usual self, just the offensive flow isn't right.

[Liver_Pooty]

It's not the end of the world, but we're a stupid Raptor timeout from what? Losing 5 or 6 in a row? Hell I forget. Regardless it's not like we're losing to world beaters

[TinmanZBoy]

as much as i like coach clifford, i have to say he got out-coached in this one... the hornets offense is too predictable now, particularly when he is without Al... he will run 10/10 times strong motion, kemba and Nic hovering around the arch, nobody can get inside, big could not roll...even they can, only Nic can find the angle... if Al is here, at least they can do Al post-up, other clear the side...
got to give credit to Boston, their defense is very solid....and they keep leaking out in transition, at least 4 times their bigs got easy basket from outlet pass... it is not even the effort running back issue, it is the celtics sneaked out in certain opportunities and they cashed in every time... we did not see it single time in last game, talking about creative and smart, that's creative coaching..

[Eoghan]

I just don't think we're that good to be honest. Improved from last year, but so is everyone else. If we had MKG it'd be a different story.

Being able to stick MKG on the other team's hot hand would help immensely.

Too much dead weight in the form of Hawes, Hansbrough, Roberts, Hairston and Marvin though. These guys need to be shipped out for some hole fillers like rim protection and good passers.

[phillycheese]

I just think Boston out-Charlotted Charlotte. When Crowder hit that last second two after we played phenomenal 23 sec defense, I knew the jig was up. They also got so many of those long rebounds off misses.

[Liver_Pooty]

Say what you will about Clifford's minutes management

Marvin-17
PJ-13
Hawes-6

I like those numbers.

Cliff harping on turnovers but man we shot 35% for the game. Still hasn't said anything about missing wide open shots.

Marvin was at least in my opinion our mvp through the first 20 games. Guy was on fire. Now he's baxk to garbage and it's killing us.

[eladamrine]

Kaminsky had a good showing. And this is why Batum ISNT a max player. Every max player has a go-to move they can count on to get a good shot when the team needs to score. When Batum had the ball no part of you said, 'excellent, I bet his gonna do that size-up, crossover into pull up jumper move'.

Boston played good D and they seemed to of grabbed offensive rebound after offensive rebound in the 3rd. Kaminsky got muscled out of rebounding spots by Sullinger.

[phillycheese]

Every time Sullinger got his fat ass under the hoop, I could see Zeller getting tossed around. It would have been nice to have Al in there. There, I said it.

[bigbob]

im a lin fan but lin also played awful tonight not going to deny it. Absolutely terrible with 4 turnovers, not much energy. Still, even with that said, he still looked better than kemba tonight. Kemba was just getting shot over by everybody, while when we had lamb instead at least the D looked better. Cliff is just an idiot.

[bigbob]

as much as i like coach clifford, i have to say he got out-coached in this one... the hornets offense is too predictable now, particularly when he is without Al... he will run 10/10 times strong motion, kemba and Nic hovering around the arch, nobody can get inside, big could not roll...even they can, only Nic can find the angle... if Al is here, at least they can do Al post-up, other clear the side...
got to give credit to Boston, their defense is very solid....and they keep leaking out in transition, at least 4 times their bigs got easy basket from outlet pass... it is not even the effort running back issue, it is the celtics sneaked out in certain opportunities and they cashed in every time... we did not see it single time in last game, talking about creative and smart, that's creative coaching..

true..it just angers me to the core knowing that idiot is suspended 5 games for smoking a blunt. He needs to be traded just for being an irresponsibe POS

[uballer]

he's a having a much worse game than kemba

and he's been getting cooked by IT

neither of them have been having a good game but saying kemba has been anything but ASS tonight is complete BS.

Lin wasn't getting guarded by Avery Bradley. He was just being his typical bipolar self and him driving into the middle of Boston's D all night with zero plan was just dumb. I like Lin. But he only knows how to play one way and for the fist 3 quarters of the game he was playing bad all by himself.

Everyone can tell that you don't like Lin. Lin had a bad night for his shooting, but he indeed had solid defense, and 8 rebounds.

[bws94]

That formula of starters deficit going to Kemba bringing them back some and then bench catching up and getting a lead isn't working anymore. Plus, the bench guys are now coming in earlier and as a unit, they didn't get that organized nor were they a unit for that long. The starting lineup needs to run new plays or someone has to go to the bench in it. Or both.

[phillycheese]

Tinman brings up a very good point on the bigs of Boston. They ran ahead and there was a Hornet with them, just a lot smaller Hornet. So it wasn't like Charlotte was not running back, because they were, just not the right guys that's all. I thought that charge on Kaminsky when it should have been an And1 was a big blow. That there was a call Kaminsky as a rookie will never get. The refs also missed that out of bounds play by Olynyk and the Thomas push off Lin. I thought if they let the Lin foul go, they should not have called the one on Kaminsky.

[bigbob]

Something is off. You usually have a little drop off after winning four or five in a row but we have hit rock bottom and fast.


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its not something..the reason is extremely obvious when you look at game by game stats of kemba walker. http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6479/kemba-walker

whenever he shoots under 40% fg, we LOSE. Every single game this season has been the case. That means we live and die with kemba walker. Unfortunately for cliff, even though he knows this, he doesn't do anything about it. When kemba is having these types of games, sit him on the bench!

Batik has disappeared and the offense no longer runs through him. That's the difference.

its combo...batik has dissapeared AND kemba has dissapeared, mostly though its kembrick

[phillycheese]

Hey BB, chill with the Kemba hate. He did not have the monopoly on suckiness this game.

[bws94]

Hey BB, chill with the Kemba hate. He did not have the monopoly on suckiness this game.

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