Fake Trade Thread 2

Post #341 » by **jwise44** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:26 am

I really feel like Batum could help the rockets even though his contract sucks, and I really want there to be some way to help both teams (moving to North Carolina has made me root hardcore for Carolina teams). Batum and frank to houston for what exactly would wind up helping both teams?

Braggins · Post #342 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:13 am

jwise44 wrote:I really feel like Batum could help the rockets even though his contract sucks, and I really want there to be some way to help both teams (moving to North Carolina has made me root hardcore for Carolina teams). Batum and frank to houston for what exactly would wind up helping both teams?

There aren't very many different realistic salary combinations that match with Batum + Frank that dont involve Capela (obviously out of the question).

tucker + knight/gordon + chriss/nene

or

gordon + knight

Batum seems like a downgrade from Tucker to me, so I don't see the first option working for Houston even with picks, but I think it would be worth it for Charlotte to do Batum + Frank + picks for Tucker + Knight + Chriss. Gordon + Knight also would probably be worth it just for the salary relief, even though Gordon is also playing poorly and doesn't address any of our weaknesses.

catch20two · Post #343 » by **catch20two** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:23 am

If we can get a young player to groom like Dennis Smith we need to do it ASAP.

Post #344 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:37 am

catch20two wrote:If we can get a young player to groom like Dennis Smith we need to do it ASAP.

that's Luka's team and Dennis doesn't fit, he should be available.

SWedd523 · Post #345 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:52 am

I'd be amenable to something around Kemba/Batum for Smith/Barnes as a starting point

NotACat · Post #346 » by **NotACat** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:37 pm

Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

chellis · Post #347 » by **chellis** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:05 pm

I was reading a rumor that Philly is willing to part with its 1st rounder for some outside shooting. It could be what would e needed to give Washington a bit more of what they are looking for. Now with this trade idea, I fully get it that 3 teams in the same conference all willing to trade with each other is slim. In terms of filler from Charlotte, you'll have to play around with it, but the meat of the deal could be as follows:

Philly in: Jeremy Lamb
Charlotte in: Bradley Beal
Washington in: Malik Monk, Wilson Chandler, Larger salary filler from Charlotte, 1st from Charlotte (you can nit pick protection if you want), 1st from Philly

I'll admit, I haven't watched much of Philly since Chandler has come in and not sure how they'll value him. Thoughts? Is the value there to everyone, or where am I short?

JDuaneWayne · Post #348 » by **JDuaneWayne** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:31 pm

NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

I’d lean towards no, I don’t think that team gets us a 1st round series win and you take almost all of our youth. In a draft redo Graham goes 1st round and Fournier has not been good this year.

EDIT: didn’t see the 1st, absolutely not. Gordon plays at a level about what his contract is worth. We have the lite version of him already on our roster.

Post #349 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:47 pm

JDuaneWayne wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

I’d lean towards no, I don’t think that team gets us a 1st round series win and you take almost all of our youth. In a draft redo Graham goes 1st round and Fournier has not been good this year.

EDIT: didn’t see the 1st, absolutely not. Gordon plays at a level about what his contract is worth. We have the lite version of him already on our roster.

i think i would, but I'm desperate for change. I to would prefer to keep Graham as well though. I'm really high on him, i dont believe you can teach bball iq which his passing seems to indicate.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #350 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:52 pm

Diop wrote:
JDuaneWayne wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

I’d lean towards no, I don’t think that team gets us a 1st round series win and you take almost all of our youth. In a draft redo Graham goes 1st round and Fournier has not been good this year.

EDIT: didn’t see the 1st, absolutely not. Gordon plays at a level about what his contract is worth. We have the lite version of him already on our roster.

i think i would, but I'm desperate for change. I to would prefer to keep Graham as well though. I'm really high on him, i dont believe you can teach bball iq which his passing seems to indicate.

Replace Bridges with Kaminsky or Monk and I would, though I am high on Graham as well.

316Hornets · Post #351 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:53 pm

Yeah, that trade just doesn't move the needle enough for me. I'd rather send Marv than MKG if we are getting Aaron Gordon back.

I'd do this with the protected 1st to Orlando

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybkucop7

NotACat · Post #352 » by **NotACat** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:06 pm

316Hornets wrote:Yeah, that trade just doesn't move the needle enough for me. I'd rather send Marv than MKG if we are getting Aaron Gordon back.

I'd do this with the protected 1st to Orlando

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybkucop7

I think we'd agree to that

Post #353 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:57 pm

NotACat wrote:
316Hornets wrote:Yeah, that trade just doesn't move the needle enough for me. I'd rather send Marv than MKG if we are getting Aaron Gordon back.

I'd do this with the protected 1st to Orlando

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybkucop7

I think we'd agree to that

make it so then please. I don't believe MJ will tank and will do anything to keep Kemba, this might achieve that.

Vuc, Zeller, Biz
Gordon, MKG
Fournier, Bacon
Lamb, Monk
Kemba, Parker, Graham

MKG could play alongside Gordon for a defensive lineup, otherwise there are plenty of offensive options there. we could sign another warm body at Pf or even go back to playing Zeller there occasionally alongside Vuc for defensive purposes only.

Might get us out of the 1st round which isn't a huge endorsement but like I said, it's probably as good as we could get considering MJ's intent to keep pushing to win now.

PS. even though a Magic fan has suggested it I really doubt Orlando would entertain this,

NotACat · Post #354 » by **NotACat** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:58 pm

Diop wrote:
NotACat wrote:
316Hornets wrote:Yeah, that trade just doesn't move the needle enough for me. I'd rather send Marv than MKG if we are getting Aaron Gordon back.

I'd do this with the protected 1st to Orlando

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybkucop7

I think we'd agree to that

make it so then please. I don't believe MJ will tank and will do anything to keep Kemba, this might achieve that.

Vuc, Zeller, Biz
Gordon, MKG
Fournier, Bacon
Lamb, Monk
Kemba, Parker, Graham

MKG could play alongside Gordon for a defensive lineup, otherwise there are plenty of offensive options there. we could sign another warm body at Pf or even go back to playing Zeller there occasionally alongside Vuc for defensive purposes only.

Might get us out of the 1st round which isn't a huge endorsement but like I said, it's probably as good as we could get considering MJ's intent to keep pushing to win now.

PS. even though a Magic fan has suggested it I really doubt Orlando would entertain this,

Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't see the players you replaced except Marvin for MKG. It'd absolutely need to include Graham or Monk in that scenario

Post #355 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:10 pm

NotACat wrote:
Diop wrote:
NotACat wrote:I think we'd agree to that

make it so then please. I don't believe MJ will tank and will do anything to keep Kemba, this might achieve that.

Vuc, Zeller, Biz
Gordon, MKG
Fournier, Bacon
Lamb, Monk
Kemba, Parker, Graham

MKG could play alongside Gordon for a defensive lineup, otherwise there are plenty of offensive options there. we could sign another warm body at Pf or even go back to playing Zeller there occasionally alongside Vuc for defensive purposes only.

Might get us out of the 1st round which isn't a huge endorsement but like I said, it's probably as good as we could get considering MJ's intent to keep pushing to win now.

PS. even though a Magic fan has suggested it I really doubt Orlando would entertain this,

Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't see the players you replaced except Marvin for MKG. It'd absolutely need to include Graham or Monk in that scenario

can we keep Bridges or do you want 2 young players? (which I would understand)

NotACat · Post #356 » by **NotACat** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Diop wrote:
NotACat wrote:
Diop wrote:make it so then please. I don't believe MJ will tank and will do anything to keep Kemba, this might achieve that.

Vuc, Zeller, Biz
Gordon, MKG
Fournier, Bacon
Lamb, Monk
Kemba, Parker, Graham

MKG could play alongside Gordon for a defensive lineup, otherwise there are plenty of offensive options there. we could sign another warm body at Pf or even go back to playing Zeller there occasionally alongside Vuc for defensive purposes only.

Might get us out of the 1st round which isn't a huge endorsement but like I said, it's probably as good as we could get considering MJ's intent to keep pushing to win now.

PS. even though a Magic fan has suggested it I really doubt Orlando would entertain this,

Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't see the players you replaced except Marvin for MKG. It'd absolutely need to include Graham or Monk in that scenario

can we keep Bridges or do you want 2 young players? (which I would understand)

It'd have to be Bridges + Monk/Graham and a 1st

Post #357 » by **Diop** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:27 pm

NotACat wrote:
Diop wrote:
NotACat wrote:Sorry, I was in a rush and didn't see the players you replaced except Marvin for MKG. It'd absolutely need to include Graham or Monk in that scenario

can we keep Bridges or do you want 2 young players? (which I would understand)

It'd have to be Bridges + Monk/Graham and a 1st

i get it from the Orlando point of view now. It really is mortgaging Charlotte's future, so I would be hesitant to do it, wouldn't surprise me if it's something MJ would say yes to.

GoBobs · Post #358 » by **GoBobs** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:39 pm

NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

No, but I would do something like Gordon + filler for Batum, Graham, 1st (top 3 protected), 2 2nds

NotACat · Post #359 » by **NotACat** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:45 pm

GoBobs wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

No, but I would do something like Gordon + filler for Batum, Graham, 1st (top 3 protected), 2 2nds

Gordon + Fournier for Batum and Bridges, 1st top 12 protected and a 2nd next year?

GoBobs · Post #360 » by **GoBobs** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:05 am

NotACat wrote:
GoBobs wrote:
NotACat wrote:Magic fan here with a proposal if Jordan is looking to improve the roster. Would you do the following with a protected 1st going to Orlando?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8hfhurf

No, but I would do something like Gordon + filler for Batum, Graham, 1st (top 3 protected), 2 2nds

Gordon + Fournier for Batum and Bridges, 1st top 12 protected and a 2nd next year?

I cant justify using assets to move Batum if I have to take Fournier back, and also the salary doesn't balance there.

Gordon + some cheap expiring filler of your choice for Batum, Bridges, 1st (lotto protected, lotto protected then becomes 2 seconds)