2019 Offseason Thread

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #341 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 12:52 pm

Was mulling over Miles at PF and some lack of team balance.

Question who plays SF? If Nic is best at SG, MKG plays mostly PF, and Miles is being moved to PF that leaves ... what? Bacon at SF? Either that or one of this year's second round picks.

Question who is the team's 3rd PG? Hornets have just 2 PGs at the moment unless they think that Cody Martin can handle that role in the NBA or Shelvin Mack is unexpected brought back.

Question what happens at Center spot? Even if PJ slides over and plays there some, it seems like the team really lacks a good rim protector outside a very flawed Biz who just underwent knee surgery right after the season. Cody Zeller is good, but seems to be unable to play a full season. Willy is ... not good.

I know that the team has 14 contracts ATM, but it seems like a trade or final FA signing or both is really needed.

Post #342 » by **Diop** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:30 pm

I'm with the others, I prefer miles and pj at the 3,4.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #343 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 2:04 pm

I'll also entertain the argument that position is less meaningful now and that they just want Miles to be able to defend bigger guys this year.

Rich4114 · Post #344 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:00 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Was mulling over Miles at PF and some lack of team balance.

Question who plays SF? If Nic is best at SG, MKG plays mostly PF, and Miles is being moved to PF that leaves ... what? Bacon at SF? Either that or one of this year's second round picks.

Question who is the team's 3rd PG? Hornets have just 2 PGs at the moment unless they think that Cody Martin can handle that role in the NBA or Shelvin Mack is unexpected brought back.

Question what happens at Center spot? Even if PJ slides over and plays there some, it seems like the team really lacks a good rim protector outside a very flawed Biz who just underwent knee surgery right after the season. Cody Zeller is good, but seems to be unable to play a full season. Willy is ... not good.

I know that the team has 14 contracts ATM, but it seems like a trade or final FA signing or both is really needed.

In general, I've got to imagine the front office will be trying to move Batum, MKG and Marvin throughout the season and possibly Zeller. Zeller is unlikely, unless we find someone to play center for us. It's likely going to be Cody/Willy with PJ/Marvin playing spot small ball center minutes.

For the time being, with the roster as is - announcing Miles will start at PF pretty much means to me that they plan to start Monk at SG and bring Marvin off the bench. I don't think they plan to play Batum as starter again after how last season went. We can all thank Batum for how the past 3 years have gone and for not having Kemba anymore by the way. I think most people know that already though. Could make the argument that it was a mistake to give him that contract, but at the time I think most of us wanted to see it get done.

Anyway, here's what I'm thinking:

Question who plays SF? If Nic is best at SG, MKG plays mostly PF, and Miles is being moved to PF that leaves ... what? Bacon at SF? Either that or one of this year's second round picks. - It'll be Bacon at SF since it seems like they're starting Monk.

Question who is the team's 3rd PG? Hornets have just 2 PGs at the moment unless they think that Cody Martin can handle that role in the NBA or Shelvin Mack is unexpected brought back. - I think they pick up a 3rd PG or use Monk as 3rd PG when needed.

Question what happens at Center spot? Even if PJ slides over and plays there some, it seems like the team really lacks a good rim protector outside a very flawed Biz who just underwent knee surgery right after the season. Cody Zeller is good, but seems to be unable to play a full season. Willy is ... not good. - They have to pick up another center somehow. This is why it wouldn't surprise me to see Boogie settle here for the MLE. We will get torn apart inside the paint, as we did last season rolling with Zeller/Biz/Willy at C.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #345 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:02 pm

Where did the starting Monk thing come from?

Rich4114 · Post #346 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 9:12 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Where did the starting Monk thing come from?

I’m just saying that because it moves Bacon to SF if Bridges is starting at PF. I hope we aren’t starting Nic or MKG at this point. Which opens the door for Monk, who is also better on defense next to Rozier as Rozier can guard SG’s and Monk PG’s. Pure speculation on my part though.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #347 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Fri Jul 5, 2019 11:10 pm

Seems more likely Borrego just starts Nic again. If nothing else maybe it builds his trade value.

LofJ · Post #348 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:19 pm

Batum to the Raptors in a sign and trade so the Raptors can leverage the big TPE created by Kawhi leaving.

-Ian- · Post #349 » by **-Ian-** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:30 pm

It's highly unlikely that we trade Nic before the Paris game.

Chapelchilla · Post #350 » by **Chapelchilla** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:35 pm

-Ian- wrote:It's highly unlikely that we trade Nic before the Paris game.

Why would we care if we cater to some French fans for one game?

MasterIchiro · Post #351 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:37 pm

LofJ wrote:Batum to the Raptors in a sign and trade so the Raptors can leverage the big TPE created by Kawhi leaving.

French-Canadian connection. Batum would love a French-speaking city like Toronto. We'd likely have to attach the Cavs pick we own.

stinger14 · Post #352 » by **stinger14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 1:59 pm

LofJ wrote:Batum to the Raptors in a sign and trade so the Raptors can leverage the big TPE created by Kawhi leaving.

I like it

stinger14 · Post #353 » by **stinger14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:02 pm

Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

MasterIchiro · Post #354 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:05 pm

stinger14 wrote:Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

I know the instinct is to dream big in the wake of a blockbuster realignment of the NBA that leaves OKC facing rebuild, but I think something smaller scale is possible involving Adams. And maybe Galinari. I think Rozier is the plan for point guard.

bes628 · Post #355 » by **bes628** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:07 pm

stinger14 wrote:Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

I would def trade for him personally, but only if we could flip Rozier.

stinger14 · Post #356 » by **stinger14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:14 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

I know the instinct is to dream big in the wake of a blockbuster realignment of the NBA that leaves OKC facing rebuild, but I think something smaller scale is possible involving Adams. And maybe Galinari. I think Rozier is the plan for point guard.

I actually just posted about Adams in another thread

-Ian- · Post #357 » by **-Ian-** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:43 pm

bes628 wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

I would def trade for him personally, but only if we could flip Rozier.

Can we immediately trade Rozier after acquiring him through S&T? Someone here posted that we can only trade him around December.

stinger14 · Post #358 » by **stinger14** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 2:50 pm

-Ian- wrote:
bes628 wrote:
stinger14 wrote:Looking forward to reactions here....

With the news that broke last night, including the news Westbrook may be available, should the Hornets contact OKC about Westbrook or Adams?

I would def trade for him personally, but only if we could flip Rozier.

Can we immediately trade Rozier after acquiring him through S&T? Someone here posted that we can only trade him around December.

Trade not official until today, so if we act quickly we could make it a 3-team deal. However, I think the front office wants Terry here

Rays Pompadour · Post #359 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 3:26 pm

Vandy makes a good point about balance. The structure of the squad as constituted depends, really, on Bacon claiming the shooting guard position. Monk cannot be trusted, plus I think in his stage of development he's better as a member of the rotation coming off the bench. Bridges is penciled in at the 4 because he can't shoot with a decent efficiency. Him at the 3 would clog the paint.

Which leaves Batum. I hated Batum at the 2. I thought it murdered the correct structure season before last when Cliff tried to put size on the perimeter. He's better as a three and that's where I think he'll be, pending a trade. And I seriously doubt the Hornets will find a trade partner (though Toronto would be a terrific one) for Batum that makes sense for Charlotte.

And that brings me back to Bacon. Assume Rozier becomes the primary scoring option, as Kemba was, then Bacon becomes the natural #2, followed by Batum. Is Bacon ready for that responsibility? I have my doubts. Also, with Washington already behind in his preparation for an NBA season, the Hornets will be sorely lacking in interior defense.

And that points to the structural need for a veteran shooting/scoring guard behind Bacon and a starting center with defensive capabilities. Biyombo might be the best solution currently on the roster, no kidding. But I think the franchise would do well to bring in, or trade for, both positions.

Post #360 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:49 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
LofJ wrote:Batum to the Raptors in a sign and trade so the Raptors can leverage the big TPE created by Kawhi leaving.

French-Canadian connection. Batum would love a French-speaking city like Toronto. We'd likely have to attach the Cavs pick we own.

Toronto is not a French speaking city.

Plus French speaking is very, very different to Francophone speaking.

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