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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#361 » by Elden Payton » Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:19 am

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Sik Infant wrote:His D is good imo, that is a myth he can't play D.

Agreed. I think it's one of those "he's little so he must be a crap defender" type things. He might not ever be a lock down defender but one on one I think he has been very serviceable. I have to start paying more attention to how he defends the P&R though.


I think it's for a few reasons-

1.)As you say he's a smaller PG so people think he can't D-up but they forget how much of a competitor he is, he's got a lot of heart & is a scrappy guy, he just wants to win & you can see that in his D.

2.)He is a flatout scorer, it's a stereotype when you are that good offensively that you can't/won't play D but it's a myth, look at MJ.

3.)He is so good as a prospect that people need something to pick on!! ;)

I think it falls into the category like Biyombo cops that because he has so much defensive potential that he will never be a serviceable offensive player which is just BS. Kemba gets the opposite.

Kemba also suffers from the Brandon Roy syndrome when you come out of college as such a good player that people think you have reached your peak when in reality you are that good & just getting started ;)
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#362 » by Marvel » Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:07 am

If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#363 » by Kembastockton » Tue Jan 3, 2012 6:54 pm

Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.



He is already showing that he can hold his own. Look how well he has done against Jennings, Chalmers, and Duhon. I'd say given time to adjust to the nba speed, and game he will be a very good pointguard.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#364 » by Battery » Tue Jan 3, 2012 8:55 pm

Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.



If DJ was good at running an offense then why did we draft Kemba?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#365 » by captaincrunk » Tue Jan 3, 2012 9:43 pm

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Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.



He is already showing that he can hold his own. Look how well he has done against Jennings, Chalmers, and Duhon. I'd say given time to adjust to the nba speed, and game he will be a very good pointguard.

Whoa, you mean he played well against star players like Chalmers and Duhon? Man, that's sick! Whoa!
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Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.



If DJ was good at running an offense then why did we draft Kemba?

BPA.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#366 » by Battery » Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:02 pm

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BPA.


We could have traded down and filled a more pressing need at SF...if DJ was good at running an offense. Now if DJ or Kemba were at least 6-3/6-4 then you could make a case at playing both together. Kind of hard to go BPA at the point when you believe the point guard you already have is your future. If the Nets had the #1 pick this past June I don't think they would draft Irving.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#367 » by Elden Payton » Tue Jan 3, 2012 10:16 pm

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captaincrunk wrote:
BPA.


We could have traded down and filled a more pressing need at SF...if DJ was good at running an offense. Now if DJ or Kemba were at least 6-3/6-4 then you could make a case at playing both together. Kind of hard to go BPA at the point when you believe the point guard you already have is your future. If the Nets had the #1 pick this past June I don't think they would draft Irving.


This is exactly my point when trying to explain why Kyrie wasn't the consensus #1 pick, Minny,Washington & New Jersey all would have taken Williams.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#368 » by BigSlam » Tue Jan 3, 2012 11:57 pm

Battery wrote:
Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.


If DJ was good at running an offense then why did we draft Kemba?

You seriously don't know the answer to that?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#369 » by Battery » Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:05 am

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Battery wrote:
Marvel wrote:If he can develop DJ's ability to run an offense and make plays, there is no doubt he can be our PG of the future. He's got everything DJ has other than experience, with better defense. He's already more explosive than DJ and he won't get blocked as many times on layups either.

It should be interesting to see if he can develop into a full time NBA point guard.


If DJ was good at running an offense then why did we draft Kemba?

You seriously don't know the answer to that?




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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#370 » by BigSlam » Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:10 am

A. DJ can run an offense just fine
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B. Kemba can't run an offense as well as DJ (yet)

Kemba was drafted because has fantastic intangibles, amazing energy and people can't help but to gravitate towards him. He also has a huge personality. Probably didn't hurt that our owner saw parts of himself in Kemba either.

He wasn't drafted because DJ "can't run an offense".
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#371 » by Battery » Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:32 am

BigSlam wrote:A. DJ can run an offense just fine
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B. Kemba can't run an offense as well as DJ (yet)

Kemba was drafted because has fantastic intangibles, amazing energy and people can't help but to gravitate towards him. He also has a huge personality. Probably didn't hurt that our owner saw parts of himself in Kemba either.

He wasn't drafted because DJ "can't run an offense".



So he can run an offense, just not well enough to win many games. :-?
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#372 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jan 4, 2012 12:35 am

Know you guys aren't really into efficiency stats normally and it's obviously a small sample, but Kemba is the #7 rookie currently with a 19.39 PER, good for 12th amongst pgs.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#373 » by Marvel » Wed Jan 4, 2012 1:10 am

I still see him as a Jason Terry player.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#374 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:34 am

Hopefully I didn't jinx his career.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#375 » by Elden Payton » Wed Jan 4, 2012 2:41 am

Walt Cronkite wrote:Hopefully I didn't jinx his career.


Damn I hope so Walt.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#376 » by captaincrunk » Wed Jan 4, 2012 3:34 am

Battery wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
BPA.


We could have traded down and filled a more pressing need at SF...if DJ was good at running an offense. Now if DJ or Kemba were at least 6-3/6-4 then you could make a case at playing both together. Kind of hard to go BPA at the point when you believe the point guard you already have is your future. If the Nets had the #1 pick this past June I don't think they would draft Irving.

That's because D.Williams is a top 5 point guard. But you're just being a jackass :D
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#377 » by Battery » Wed Jan 4, 2012 4:46 pm

captaincrunk wrote:
Battery wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
BPA.


We could have traded down and filled a more pressing need at SF...if DJ was good at running an offense. Now if DJ or Kemba were at least 6-3/6-4 then you could make a case at playing both together. Kind of hard to go BPA at the point when you believe the point guard you already have is your future. If the Nets had the #1 pick this past June I don't think they would draft Irving.

That's because D.Williams is a top 5 point guard. But you're just being a jackass :D




No. It's because the Bobcats management team doesn't believe in DJ. Last night's game was a perfect example why. Horrific defender and went to sleep offensively for the final 17 minutes of the game. Typical DJ. Stat sheet looked pretty last night. Yay.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#378 » by captaincrunk » Wed Jan 4, 2012 5:05 pm

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captaincrunk wrote:
Battery wrote:We could have traded down and filled a more pressing need at SF...if DJ was good at running an offense. Now if DJ or Kemba were at least 6-3/6-4 then you could make a case at playing both together. Kind of hard to go BPA at the point when you believe the point guard you already have is your future. If the Nets had the #1 pick this past June I don't think they would draft Irving.

That's because D.Williams is a top 5 point guard. But you're just being a jackass :D




No. It's because the Bobcats management team doesn't believe in DJ. Last night's game was a perfect example why. Horrific defender and went to sleep offensively for the final 17 minutes of the game. Typical DJ. Stat sheet looked pretty last night. Yay.

Since you're the one making outrageous claims of clairvoyance, I'll need some sort of reasoning or evidence to back this up.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#379 » by Battery » Wed Jan 4, 2012 11:16 pm

captaincrunk wrote:Since you're the one making outrageous claims of clairvoyance, I'll need some sort of reasoning or evidence to back this up.



It's almost as if you're completely oblivious to just how wildly inconsistent DJ is. Once again, last night's game is DJ in a nutshell. Shine in the first half but when defenses tighten up in the second he goes into a shell. Once in a blue moon he will step up in crunch time, but that doesn't happen too often. Can you get it done when the game is on the line? THAT is why Kemba was drafted. Fearless.
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Re: The Kemba Walker Thread 

Post#380 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Jan 5, 2012 1:15 am

How good of a long range shooter was Kemba in college? I'm not really an NCAA fan, I simply don't have the time for it, yet I tune in during March Madness and that's basically all I've seen out of him before the NBA.

I just don't quite like his shooting from downtown.
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