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EwingSweatsALot wrote:Random Stat of the day:
PJ is 8 from 20 from behind the arc when his shot results from anything else besides a pass from Kemba.
When Kemba passes him the ball and he shoots a 3 he is 0-12.
Dancingpanda wrote:EwingSweatsALot wrote:Random Stat of the day:
PJ is 8 from 20 from behind the arc when his shot results from anything else besides a pass from Kemba.
When Kemba passes him the ball and he shoots a 3 he is 0-12.
So he's perfect if someone else passes him the ball>?
BlackOutBuzz wrote:Dancingpanda wrote:EwingSweatsALot wrote:Random Stat of the day:
PJ is 8 from 20 from behind the arc when his shot results from anything else besides a pass from Kemba.
When Kemba passes him the ball and he shoots a 3 he is 0-12.
So he's perfect if someone else passes him the ball>?
No, the Kemba attempts aren't included in the 20.
Still, 40%.
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EwingSweatsALot wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:Dancingpanda wrote:
So he's perfect if someone else passes him the ball>?
No, the Kemba attempts aren't included in the 20.
Still, 40%.
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Nope.
8-32 total, 25%
8-20 off attempts not potentially assisted by Kemba, 40%
0-12 on attempts that is from a Kemba AO(assist opp.), 0%
BlackOutBuzz wrote:EwingSweatsALot wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:No, the Kemba attempts aren't included in the 20.
Still, 40%.
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Nope.
8-32 total, 25%
8-20 off attempts not potentially assisted by Kemba, 40%
0-12 on attempts that is from a Kemba AO(assist opp.), 0%
I meant 40% off those unassisted from Kemba, since the other poster thought it was 100%.
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EwingSweatsALot wrote:Taking a look at our three leading assisters. Walker, Lin, Batum.
Looking at how well guys shoot off their passes vs. how well the same guys shoot every way else (isos or assist opps from other guys).
All per 100.
For Kemba, the team is 11.7 POINTS WORSE per 100. So when his pass results in a shot they are 11.7 points worse than when they shoot any way else. -15.9 on twos. The big issue is Al and Batum. They shoot 42.9% when Kemba passes them the ball from 2 point range and 53.7% every way else.
For Lin, the team is 2.4 POINTS BETTER per 100. +4.1 on 3s and -1.7 on 2s.
For Batum, the team is 7.8 POINTS WORSE per 100. -7.5 on 3s and -0.3 on 2s. The team only shoots 27.7% from three on his assist opportunities. Kemba and Marvin shoot the most threes off his passes and both shoot 10% worse than when he doesn't pass them the ball.
I have no idea what any of this means. Assists are good we won't ball movement. We want passes. We want passes into open shots.
It's weird that our guys aren't shooting well off of our best passers passes. It more than likely is the reason why our guys don't average a lot of assists. It's why the complaints of Kemba's assists have been low in some games.
I doubt we are bad passers and just take a lot of bad shots off of passes. That doesn't make any sense. I guess more than likely our best scorers are better from ISO (Kemba, Al, Batum, Lamb).
Just weird numbers. more than likely pointless this early.
Mystical Apples wrote:I posted a little information over on Kemba's thread but I really started looking at the relative strengths of the first and second units. The good news is the second unit has been crushing it the last 6 games with a top 4 offensive rating and a top 3 defensive rating. Overall they are 2nd to San Antonio with a +14.8.
Obviously a small sample size with games against weak benches (Portland, Brooklyn), but also Chicago which has the third best net bench rating and 2 games against the Knicks who have an average bench.
Mystical Apples wrote:Finally, the +/- for the first/second units for every NBA team their last 6 games. For example, the Hornets starters are -3.2 and the second unit is +14.8 so their differential is 18. Keep in mind starters generally play starters and second units play against benches, so this isn't to say the bench is 18 points better than the starters. But relative to the other 29 teams the bench has had an over-sized contribution the last 6 games.
Good news for the starters: in 24 hours they get a crack at the historically bad 76ers starting unit. Time to get healthy.
TTNN wrote:EwingSweatsALot wrote:Taking a look at our three leading assisters. Walker, Lin, Batum.
Looking at how well guys shoot off their passes vs. how well the same guys shoot every way else (isos or assist opps from other guys).
All per 100.
For Kemba, the team is 11.7 POINTS WORSE per 100. So when his pass results in a shot they are 11.7 points worse than when they shoot any way else. -15.9 on twos. The big issue is Al and Batum. They shoot 42.9% when Kemba passes them the ball from 2 point range and 53.7% every way else.
For Lin, the team is 2.4 POINTS BETTER per 100. +4.1 on 3s and -1.7 on 2s.
For Batum, the team is 7.8 POINTS WORSE per 100. -7.5 on 3s and -0.3 on 2s. The team only shoots 27.7% from three on his assist opportunities. Kemba and Marvin shoot the most threes off his passes and both shoot 10% worse than when he doesn't pass them the ball.
I have no idea what any of this means. Assists are good we won't ball movement. We want passes. We want passes into open shots.
It's weird that our guys aren't shooting well off of our best passers passes. It more than likely is the reason why our guys don't average a lot of assists. It's why the complaints of Kemba's assists have been low in some games.
I doubt we are bad passers and just take a lot of bad shots off of passes. That doesn't make any sense. I guess more than likely our best scorers are better from ISO (Kemba, Al, Batum, Lamb).
Just weird numbers. more than likely pointless this early.
it is strange numbers, I'd assume passes from Batum should be good. Where did you get these numbers and I'm wondering how they aggregate the numbers from all the players to get that 100 possession. At least last season, Batum's teammates get higher FG% out of his pass, so I'm anticipate the same now.
