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Re: RE: Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#361 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:23 am

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#362 » by bravor » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:17 pm

I just read an article on the Bull's section about their GM wanting atheticism and 3 ptrs, so i came up with the following trade idea, which work theorically, with Denver as third partner. That's for the salary part, i just wonder if that is something that could be done, with some fillers (1st or 2nd picks).
Not saying it would be perfect (especially in terms of contracts) but since Hibbert is not here for more than one year (normally), it would be manageable.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#363 » by Mystical Apples » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:21 pm

bravor wrote:I just read an article on the Bull's section about their GM wanting atheticism and 3 ptrs, so i came up with the following trade idea, which work theorically, with Denver as third partner. That's for the salary part, i just wonder if that is something that could be done, with some fillers (1st or 2nd picks).
Not saying it would be perfect (especially in terms of contracts) but since Hibbert is not here for more than one year (normally), it would be manageable.

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The trade addresses and creates issues. Can't see CHA flipping $20 to 27M in long term salary for ~ $58 million unless it's a massive upgrade.

If dealing with Chicago I'd look at Taj Gibson instead of Lopez. He fills a need and is expiring.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#364 » by lakerhater » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:59 am

W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#365 » by Diop » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:15 am

lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

:lol:

I was about to copy your post to here. I like it.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#366 » by lakerhater » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:20 am

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lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

:lol:

I was about to copy your post to here. I like it.


I make it a policy to take my ideas to team trade board sub forums before I bring them to the main trade board in their own original threads.

I do like this idea and will likely bring it to the main trade board.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#367 » by Braggins » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:41 am

lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

I'd do it.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#368 » by HornetJail » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:22 am

lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

You don't want to do this. It isn't worth weakening your bench for Hibbert. Clark is actually good. I mean, I'll happily take the deal but I don't see the point for the Warriors. Hibbert doesn't fit your team at all. You're much better off playing JaVale McGee all the minutes he can handle and then a few extra.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#369 » by lakerhater » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:28 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

You don't want to do this. It isn't worth weakening your bench for Hibbert. Clark is actually good. I mean, I'll happily take the deal but I don't see the point for the Warriors. Hibbert doesn't fit your team at all. You're much better off playing JaVale McGee all the minutes he can handle and then a few extra.


But Javale can only handle about 10 mpg. I'm hoping Hibbert can handle another 5-10 mpg. Clark is playing well but he's a luxury compared to getting more front court depth to go against the Cavs in the finals if the W's get that far. Jones is a non factor this season and GSW does well with 2nd round picks.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#370 » by BigSlam » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:41 pm

lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.

I'd be down.

For sure.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#371 » by skywalker33 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:12 am

bravor wrote:I just read an article on the Bull's section about their GM wanting atheticism and 3 ptrs, so i came up with the following trade idea, which work theorically, with Denver as third partner. That's for the salary part, i just wonder if that is something that could be done, with some fillers (1st or 2nd picks).
Not saying it would be perfect (especially in terms of contracts) but since Hibbert is not here for more than one year (normally), it would be manageable.

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Denver passes easily, we have our SG's, Nelson is a cheaper version of Sessions so the players don't fit Denver in anyway. Unless we're getting a lottery 1st no need to have us in that deal.
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Exactly as I've been saying all along !!
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#372 » by Snidely FC » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:29 pm

BatumtheGlue wrote:
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Snidely FC wrote:keep an eye tonight on Bogdanovic. We tried to trade for him last January. 27 & expiring, I figure he's due to have a big game to keep Cho's flame burning into this year's deadline

7-11, 4-7, 8-9, 26 pts in 27 mins

We already have Marco. I don't think Cho is still willing to trade for him. Marco is better ballhandler, shooter, passer and both of them play no defense.

Just to play devil's advocate . . .

Who's a better fit for this CHA team, Jeremy Lamb or Bojan Bogdanovic?
Everyone likes Lamb because he can make his own offense but in an offense that is supposed to be 4 out 1 in Lamb is shooting 22% from 3. What's the difference between what Lamb brings to this team and, say, what Gerald Henderson used to bring? Ask not which player has the better individual skill set, but which is a better fit for Cliff's 4 out 1 in offense and team-based defensive schemes.

I interrupt this post for a Pop Quiz: who was the leading scorer at the Rio Olympics this summer? See Answer below.

Would Cho trade Jeremy Lamb for Bojan Bogdanovic? We've already got Marco, and people on this board would freak out, but Cliff's offense cries out for more knock down 3 point shooters. Subpar 3 pt shooting from Sessions, Lamb & Frank in Cliff's offense is a major contributor, especially on the second unit, to this team's frustrating inconsistent success.

Pop Quiz Answer: Bojan Bogdanovic was the leading scorer at the Rio Olympics, 25 ppg on 50% from the field and 45% from 3. That's the highest scoring avg in the Olympics since Oscar Schmidt in '96. Maybe Bojan underperforms because he's on the Nets? He did have a 44 pt game for the Nets lat spring. We know Cho targets high BBIQ guys, brings them here to unleash their creativity. Possibly underperforming, 27, expiring, and 6'8. Precisely the kind of guy who is catnip to Cho. There are other SFs who are better two way players than BoBo, and I admit it's unlikely mgmt would trade a young upside guy like Lamb for him, but Cho has a history of pursuing his targets till he gets them, and unlocking value.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#373 » by bravor » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:48 pm

Albeit not perfect, Lamb does defend. Bogdanovic is super streaky, kind of a ball hog, and he just does not play defense at all (not even trying).
I d rather get the serb (Bogdanovic also, but Bogdan). Especially because he is reliable in the clutch (at least in Europe and with his NT). And he could complement Batum nicely (better than Belinelli).
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Post#374 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:56 pm

lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.


The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Re: RE: Re: Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1 

Post#375 » by Diop » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:25 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:
lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.


The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Yeah this was brought up on the trade board. I nominated Roberts, Harrison and graham to be cut. Would we be allowed to resign them after?
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Post#376 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:30 pm

Diop wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.


The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Yeah this was brought up on the trade board. I nominated Roberts, Harrison and graham to be cut. Would we be allowed to resign them after?

Yeah, assuming they pass through waivers.

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Post#377 » by lakerhater » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:29 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:
lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.


The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Couldn't you just cut AV and JMM then place Jones in the D League since he's not an NBA ready player and then call him up if you sustain front court injuries?
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Post#378 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:36 pm

lakerhater wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
lakerhater wrote:W's fan here. How does this sound?

Varejao, McAdoo (both cut), Damian Jones and Ian Clark

For

Roy Hibbert and a 2nd round pick

The Hornets get a young big and a combo guard playing the best ball of his career.

GSW gets a vet rim protector to add to their center rotation in their title quest.


The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Couldn't you just cut AV and JMM then place Jones in the D League since he's not an NBA ready player and then call him up if you sustain front court injuries?


Gotta make room for the incoming players first, then you can cut/assign as necessary (though D-League assignments still count toward roster). We'd probably try to send Wood and Roberts back (guaranteed contracts) and then cut Harrison if we were to make this work.

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Post#379 » by lakerhater » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:44 pm

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lakerhater wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
The problem with something like this is we'd have to cut or trade three players to make it work. There's about two too many players in the deal.

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Couldn't you just cut AV and JMM then place Jones in the D League since he's not an NBA ready player and then call him up if you sustain front court injuries?


Gotta make room for the incoming players first, then you can cut/assign as necessary (though D-League assignments still count toward roster). We'd probably try to send Wood and Roberts back (guaranteed contracts) and then cut Harrison if we were to make this work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hu46oz4

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Sending end of the bench players with guaranteed contracts doesn't work for GSW so I guess this idea is dead in the water.

Even though my fellow W's fans don't like this idea I wish there was a way to make this happen as I think Hibbert could be useful as a big body in a slower paced series vs the Lebrons in the Finals whereas I see Clark not being very useful in a physical series vs Cleveland.
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Post#380 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:48 pm

lakerhater wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:
lakerhater wrote:
Couldn't you just cut AV and JMM then place Jones in the D League since he's not an NBA ready player and then call him up if you sustain front court injuries?


Gotta make room for the incoming players first, then you can cut/assign as necessary (though D-League assignments still count toward roster). We'd probably try to send Wood and Roberts back (guaranteed contracts) and then cut Harrison if we were to make this work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hu46oz4

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Sending end of the bench players with guaranteed contracts doesn't work for GSW so I guess this idea is dead in the water.

Even though my fellow W's fans don't like this idea I wish there was a way to make this happen as I think Hibbert could be useful as a big body in a slower paced series vs the Lebrons in the Finals whereas I see Clark not being very useful in a physical series vs Cleveland.

I mean your offer could work, I just don't know if I see us cutting three players to dump Hibbert.

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