2020 Off-season Discussion

316Hornets · Post #381 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

I really feel like Hayward is the perfect mentor/player for our team. He won't ruin our draft chances because I expect he'll miss at least 20 games due to rest/injury. The guy is a facilitator and plays great team ball.

amcoolio · Post #382 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:19 pm

316Hornets wrote:I really feel like Hayward is the perfect mentor/player for our team. He won't ruin our draft chances because I expect he'll miss at least 20 games due to rest/injury. The guy is a facilitator and plays great team ball.

I think he Nic Batum's his next team so I am glad it won't be us it looks like

amcoolio · Post #383 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Could have 65-70 million in cap room if we give out no long deals and so far so good

Graham will need extension and Monk we’ll have to figure out but they can be after we draft Cunningham and sign Giannis so that’s good

amcoolio · Post #384 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:29 pm

Nevermind! What the ****

vtime · Post #385 » by **vtime** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:36 pm

Yes!!!!! We have our 2 guard!!! HAYWARD

truthbtold21 · Post #386 » by **truthbtold21** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:39 pm

But who is going out? We don't have that kind of cap room

DY_nasty · Post #387 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:39 pm

no **** way

vtime · Post #388 » by **vtime** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:41 pm

truthbtold21 wrote:But who is going out? We don't have that kind of cap room

Hope it’s Zeller or Batum

HornetJail · Post #389 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:54 pm

Assuming we're offloading Zeller in a S&T (it's the only one that makes sense for Boston and Charlotte) this is what our roster looks like now:

PG: Graham, Ball, Riller
SG: Rozier, Monk, Martin
SF: Hayward, Bridges, other Martin, Batum
PF: Washington, McDaniels
C: Carey, Richards?

What?

DY_nasty · Post #390 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:54 pm

it was fun while it lasted. having a sensible plan that is...

316Hornets · Post #391 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:02 pm

DY_nasty wrote:it was fun while it lasted. having a sensible plan that is...

Have you watched Hayward play dude? If we didn't get Hayward, half this board would be talking crap nonstop about Lamelo. Now he actually has a chance to post some triple doubles. Hayward is a great mentor for Lamelo. I couldn't think of a better one.

316Hornets · Post #392 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:04 pm

Let's waive and stretch Batum now and DO NOT TRADE ANY DRAFT PICKS!!

DY_nasty · Post #393 » by **DY_nasty** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:04 pm

316Hornets wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:it was fun while it lasted. having a sensible plan that is...

Have you watched Hayward play dude? If we didn't get Hayward, half this board would be talking crap nonstop about Lamelo. Now he actually has a chance to post some triple doubles. Hayward is a great mentor for Lamelo. I couldn't think of a better one.

i watched him limp all over the court in the playoffs the past years, yeah

it was fantastic :roll:

James Gatz · Post #394 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:06 pm

316Hornets wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:it was fun while it lasted. having a sensible plan that is...

Have you watched Hayward play dude? If we didn't get Hayward, half this board would be talking crap nonstop about Lamelo. Now he actually has a chance to post some triple doubles. Hayward is a great mentor for Lamelo. I couldn't think of a better one.

It's a bad move because it makes us better next year when there is a great draft in 2021. It doesn't put us in contention but keeps us in the 8-10 seed area. We needed another year and another top pick before we threw money at aging vets at the very least.

316Hornets · Post #395 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:07 pm

James Gatz wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:it was fun while it lasted. having a sensible plan that is...

Have you watched Hayward play dude? If we didn't get Hayward, half this board would be talking crap nonstop about Lamelo. Now he actually has a chance to post some triple doubles. Hayward is a great mentor for Lamelo. I couldn't think of a better one.

It's a bad move because it makes us better next year when there is a great draft in 2021. It doesn't put us in contention but keeps us in the 8-10 seed area. We needed another year and another top pick before we threw money at aging vets at the very least.

Lamelo needs a mentor. He's young, we have a team of young guys. You let Monk lead Lamelo and see where he is in 2 years.

James Gatz · Post #396 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:12 pm

316Hornets wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
Have you watched Hayward play dude? If we didn't get Hayward, half this board would be talking crap nonstop about Lamelo. Now he actually has a chance to post some triple doubles. Hayward is a great mentor for Lamelo. I couldn't think of a better one.

It's a bad move because it makes us better next year when there is a great draft in 2021. It doesn't put us in contention but keeps us in the 8-10 seed area. We needed another year and another top pick before we threw money at aging vets at the very least.

Lamelo needs a mentor. He's young, we have a team of young guys. You let Monk lead Lamelo and see where he is in 2 years.

If you want a mentor then get Garrett Temple for 5 mil. Not Hayward for 30. You realize this ends the rebuild right? In a year where it would be have been so nice to keep it going for literally one more year when there wont be games in person.

amcoolio · Post #397 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:15 pm

**** it. Now go after Westbrook. Batum and Rozier. Might as well try to win now.

NCHeels2008 · Post #398 » by **NCHeels2008** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:18 pm

James Gatz wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
It's a bad move because it makes us better next year when there is a great draft in 2021. It doesn't put us in contention but keeps us in the 8-10 seed area. We needed another year and another top pick before we threw money at aging vets at the very least.

Lamelo needs a mentor. He's young, we have a team of young guys. You let Monk lead Lamelo and see where he is in 2 years.

If you want a mentor then get Garrett Temple for 5 mil. Not Hayward for 30. You realize this ends the rebuild right? In a year where it would be have been so nice to keep it going for literally one more year when there wont be games in person.

well at least you're logical some people are posting how he isn't that good but also we will win more games and be taken into the late lotto

316Hornets · Post #399 » by **316Hornets** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:18 pm

James Gatz wrote:
316Hornets wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
It's a bad move because it makes us better next year when there is a great draft in 2021. It doesn't put us in contention but keeps us in the 8-10 seed area. We needed another year and another top pick before we threw money at aging vets at the very least.

Lamelo needs a mentor. He's young, we have a team of young guys. You let Monk lead Lamelo and see where he is in 2 years.

If you want a mentor then get Garrett Temple for 5 mil. Not Hayward for 30. You realize this ends the rebuild right? In a year where it would be have been so nice to keep it going for literally one more year when there wont be games in person.

It doesn't end the rebuild. Hayward can't win games himself, but he can help the team make smarter decisions. In a shortened season, I'd expect us to rest Hayward a lot of games. This is still a team that will pick high lottery next year.

JMAC3 · Post #400 » by **JMAC3** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:18 pm

One thing that you have to remember is that we got lucky to be picking top 3 last year. We did not lose anybody of importance really and we added a top 3 talent to a team with three other guys who were all lottery talents (including Graham).

Chances of out-tanking Detroit, OKC and even Pelicans potentially were low. I would love a top 5 pick, but we need to see this thing fully play out before freaking out.