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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#381 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Jun 7, 2025 9:13 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:I feel confident we could get Paul George for Bridges+ Nurkic.


Considering (11) 1st round picks + (12) 2nd round picks, we are going to need to budget for auditions. A huge contract limits our depth and makes it harder to win while developing prospects who keep down costs.

I view PG as a legit piece for a playoff push.

I think he's the best vet of the names being mentioned from Jrue/Beal and he can help mentor Miller while also helping us make a run for the playoffs.

Hell maybe we draft Ace Bailey now he can teach both our young wings. If he plays well we can ship him off to a contender or just keep him if he's found a home for the rest of his contract.


3 years at 50+ million per year restricts our flexibility and if he suffers injury, Hornets won't be able to restore the roster with all the funds tied up in Paul George. He's also not much of an organizer/floor general. I just see Jrue as a more effective extension of coaching on the floor. He's a better leader and he stays healthy. George makes too much money to fit a small market roster.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#382 » by Bassman » Sat Jun 7, 2025 12:34 pm

This team better not be planning to dump another season before it even gets started. As fans we are sick and tired of the pathetic mendacity, poor decisions and constant tire spinning. Do NOT haul in another old, broken down vet, especially one who is high contract, can’t really play anymore, and tell me how they’re going to change the world by shaping our young guys. Bradley Beal and 50 Mil? Get outta here!

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#383 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Jun 7, 2025 1:33 pm

I'm confused

Some people want a vet, but it has to be the right vet. Jrue isn't exactly cheap either. If we going vet get the best player you can and PG is clearly still a better player than Jrue.

Also dumping another season would be sticking with the same core and adding another young rookie. This core hasn't shown they can win together. The only way to improve is to trade for expensive vets. We are not a attractive FA destination and we have no money.

I thought the goal was to make a playoff push?

Don't you guys get tired of losing every year. Keeping this losing core together is not the answer and no rookie is changing us overnight.

Paul George can still play basketball. He was dealing with a injury last season.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#384 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Jun 7, 2025 1:55 pm

Windhorst said Darius Garland could be available.

Surely that would probably be Bridges/#4 pick/filler to get them interested.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#385 » by MPM » Sat Jun 7, 2025 2:29 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Windhorst said Darius Garland could be available.

Surely that would probably be Bridges/#4 pick/filler to get them interested.


A bit of an overpay for Garland. I think #4 alone with Nurk's expiring and Green gets that deal done. Not a huge fan of Garland the player (defense matters) but know he's big buddies with Miller and would be an obvious fit for need. This said, still on the pick BPA at 4 train.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#386 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 7, 2025 2:34 pm

I like Garland, but I'd only trade the 4th pick for a difference maker in the frontcourt - basically Bam or Jaren Jackson.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#387 » by MPM » Sat Jun 7, 2025 2:44 pm

LofJ wrote:I like Garland, but I'd only trade the 4th pick for a difference maker in the frontcourt - basically Bam or Jaren Jackson.


Basically this - if going the trade route, a bigger deal with more pieces for a semi-star would be the correct play. Plus, not sure the Cavs are quite ready for the reset that swapping Garland for a young draft pick would represent.

Does Miami listen to a Miles, Nurk expiring, #4, and future iffy 1st for Bam? Fair to us? Fair to them?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#388 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:10 pm

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LofJ wrote:I like Garland, but I'd only trade the 4th pick for a difference maker in the frontcourt - basically Bam or Jaren Jackson.


Basically this - if going the trade route, a bigger deal with more pieces for a semi-star would be the correct play. Plus, not sure the Cavs are quite ready for the reset that swapping Garland for a young draft pick would represent.

Does Miami listen to a Miles, Nurk expiring, #4, and future iffy 1st for Bam? Fair to us? Fair to them?


I think they'd want multiple firsts, probably all of the extra firsts Peterson traded for at the very least.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#389 » by JDR720 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:12 pm

Melo for Garland would be interesting.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#390 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:15 pm

JDR720 wrote:Melo for Garland would be interesting.

Now this is interesting!

I would probably do it just because we get a healthier player who is still a all-star in his own right.


That low-key makes sense for both teams.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#391 » by JMAC3 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:16 pm

I legit think Melo is a better player than Garland, but Garland is mad efficient playing in a great system next to 3 other all-stars. I wouldn't trade #4 for him, he is a terrible defender who gets targeted non-stop in the playoffs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#392 » by HornetJail » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:22 pm

#4 for Garland is something i'd be all over
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#393 » by Bassman » Sat Jun 7, 2025 4:54 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Melo for Garland would be interesting.

Now this is interesting!

I would probably do it just because we get a healthier player who is still a all-star in his own right.


That low-key makes sense for both teams.


I agree with others who say Melo is better than Garland when healthy. DG’s defense is not good but will Melo ever really be a plus there? Could be the type of “equals” deal that gives both teams a fresh perspective. Do not want to include pick 4 or a pick swap in such a deal.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#394 » by Bassman » Sat Jun 7, 2025 6:44 pm

Hornets S.I. cranks out mini articles with lots of speculation built in. Here is one posted that speculates on a minor trade down ides:

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/draft/exploring-a-draft-night-trade-down-opportunity-for-the-charlotte-hornets

This involves Utah: Hornets get 5th and 21st picks, Utah gets 4th, one of our second round picks, and next year’s second round pick. The scenario is based on the Jazz wanting a player badly at 4 that we may also want almost as badly, so what’s the price to jump up 1 spot? Pure speculation like all these things. But, I’d love to have that 21st pick if it meant getting Rasheer Fleming or similar. If the Hornets were eyeing Tre or Knipple, perhaps even Fears, that deal would work nicely.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#395 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Jun 7, 2025 6:55 pm

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JDR720 wrote:Melo for Garland would be interesting.

Now this is interesting!

I would probably do it just because we get a healthier player who is still a all-star in his own right.


That low-key makes sense for both teams.


I agree with others who say Melo is better than Garland when healthy. DG’s defense is not good but will Melo ever really be a plus there? Could be the type of “equals” deal that gives both teams a fresh perspective. Do not want to include pick 4 or a pick swap in such a deal.

Yeah the #4 pick would be off limits.

I think most would consider LaMelo the better talent, but in return we get a healthier player. I would pull the trigger if it was on the table.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#396 » by JMAC3 » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:34 pm

Bassman wrote:Hornets S.I. cranks out mini articles with lots of speculation built in. Here is one posted that speculates on a minor trade down ides:

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/draft/exploring-a-draft-night-trade-down-opportunity-for-the-charlotte-hornets

This involves Utah: Hornets get 5th and 21st picks, Utah gets 4th, one of our second round picks, and next year’s second round pick. The scenario is based on the Jazz wanting a player badly at 4 that we may also want almost as badly, so what’s the price to jump up 1 spot? Pure speculation like all these things. But, I’d love to have that 21st pick if it meant getting Rasheer Fleming or similar. If the Hornets were eyeing Tre or Knipple, perhaps even Fears, that deal would work nicely.


Asking for SGA 2.0 situation again. If that player Jazz got ends up better it will be a terrible trade no matter how much value we get back.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#397 » by Diop » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:52 am

JustBuzzin wrote:I'm confused

Some people want a vet, but it has to be the right vet. Jrue isn't exactly cheap either. If we going vet get the best player you can and PG is clearly still a better player than Jrue.

Also dumping another season would be sticking with the same core and adding another young rookie. This core hasn't shown they can win together. The only way to improve is to trade for expensive vets. We are not a attractive FA destination and we have no money.

I thought the goal was to make a playoff push?

Don't you guys get tired of losing every year. Keeping this losing core together is not the answer and no rookie is changing us overnight.

Paul George can still play basketball. He was dealing with a injury last season.

the one certain thing of this board is that we are never on the same page and have the same plan to go ahead.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#398 » by Diop » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:55 am

HornetJail wrote:#4 for Garland is something i'd be all over

i dont want a ball/garland back court, they are getting smashed defensively.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#399 » by Braggins » Sun Jun 8, 2025 2:57 am

I have zero interest in Paul George or Jrue Holiday. They are both rapidly declining and on huge contracts.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#400 » by Diop » Sun Jun 8, 2025 3:10 am

Braggins wrote:I have zero interest in Paul George or Jrue Holiday. They are both rapidly declining and on huge contracts.

i really do get this, the Jrue suggestions from me were probably out of desperation for some type of change or improvement from this club. i felt so positive about this squad in Borrego's last year, but it feels like we have sunk further each year since.
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