The Royce White Thread

JMAC3 · Post #41 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:44 am

Robinson is only 6'7'' in socks... That is a bit worrisome for a pf. I think he is a bit of tweener. I agree he does have nice point forward skills, but he doesnt really scream stretch 4 with his lack of a jumper. I just think is very limited offensively style wise.

Edit... I meant White is only 6'7''

Eoghan · Post #42 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:53 am

JMAC3 wrote:Robinson is only 6'7'' in socks... That is a bit worrisome for a pf. I think he is a bit of tweener. I agree he does have nice point forward skills, but he doesnt really scream stretch 4 with his lack of a jumper. I just think is very limited offensively style wise.

Royce? Not at all. He has a beautiful mind which gives him a great array of post moves like Z-Bo. He can face up and take you off the dribble with his quick first step and athleticism or he can back you down and juke you into any direction while he finishes with a spin and either hand. Unlike Thor, he knows his limitation thoroughly and doesn't just get by with effort and athleticism. His post game is much better than the more heralded Sully who just plays bully ball and throws his girth around.

hotrod · Post #43 » by **hotrod** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:05 am

JMAC3 wrote:Robinson is only 6'7'' in socks... That is a bit worrisome for a pf. I think he is a bit of tweener. I agree he does have nice point forward skills, but he doesnt really scream stretch 4 with his lack of a jumper. I just think is very limited offensively style wise.

His offensive style is not limited in the least. I have seen all of his games this season and he has been the best player on the court in each and every one. He outplayed T Rob and Davis. The guy can grab a rebound in traffic and go coast to coast and dunk as he did on Kentucky this year. He was actually committed to Kentucky and backed out at the last second to go to ISU. He can dominate a game without scoring. Not many guys can do that.

captaincrunk · Post #44 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:37 am

JMAC3 wrote:Do you guys see him as a three or four though?

He's a point forward. Defensively, whichever he's better at. We'll have to see.

And White seems like what Diaw can do on his best day, if that makes any sense. Diaw has good post sense, good passing, etc. About the same height too, right?

Jaruff · Post #45 » by **Jaruff** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:35 am

captaincrunk wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Do you guys see him as a three or four though?

He's a point forward. Defensively, whichever he's better at. We'll have to see.

And White seems like what Diaw can do on his best day, if that makes any sense. Diaw has good post sense, good passing, etc. About the same height too, right?

Remember that when the Hawks drafted Diaw, he played a decent amount of SF for a while. I think Royce could do the same. Probably play SF/PF hybrid for a few years until his body is ready to transition to full-time PF/C or stick at SF.

Hell, even Jamison and Odom were SF's at one point. Lots of guys move over later in their careers.

captaincrunk · Post #46 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:58 am

Jaruff wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Do you guys see him as a three or four though?

He's a point forward. Defensively, whichever he's better at. We'll have to see.

And White seems like what Diaw can do on his best day, if that makes any sense. Diaw has good post sense, good passing, etc. About the same height too, right?

Remember that when the Hawks drafted Diaw, he played a decent amount of SF for a while. I think Royce could do the same. Probably play SF/PF hybrid for a few years until his body is ready to transition to full-time PF/C or stick at SF.

Hell, even Jamison and Odom were SF's at one point. Lots of guys move over later in their careers.

yeah that was my thinking when I posted it but I figured people would respond with a bunch of nonsense so I didn't bother

Jaruff · Post #47 » by **Jaruff** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:47 pm

Actually, I think Diaw even played SG for a short while in Atlanta and we all know he played every position in Phoenix. I don't know if Royce is as versatile but it's not a negative to have a player like that on a team. The last thing you want to do is force a player into a position; we tried that this year with Tyrus. It doesn't work.

If Waiters has "earned" a lotto selection (as the rumors suggest), I don't think it's out of the question that Royce could go that high too. We're already seeing a couple of guys drop, including Perry Jones, drop down in mocks. It's going to be a crap shoot of crap shoots this year.

HornetJail · Post #48 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:40 pm

Jaruff wrote:Actually, I think Diaw even played SG for a short while in Atlanta and we all know he played every position in Phoenix. I don't know if Royce is as versatile but it's not a negative to have a player like that on a team. The last thing you want to do is force a player into a position; we tried that this year with Tyrus. It doesn't work.

If Waiters has "earned" a lotto selection (as the rumors suggest), I don't think it's out of the question that Royce could go that high too. We're already seeing a couple of guys drop, including Perry Jones, drop down in mocks. It's going to be a crap shoot of crap shoots this year.

Diaw came to Atlanta as a 6'8 combo guard. I think it's great to have a guy like Diaw on the roster who can contribute in so many different ways, I just want someone less lazy than Diaw. I was hoping Royce would drop to us at the 31, but with his stock rising into the 10s, that's looking really unlikely.

captaincrunk · Post #49 » by **captaincrunk** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:54 pm

Yeah whatever happens with Royce I'll definitely enjoy watching him in the NBA.

EDIT: Which is why I enjoy the NBA so much. You can be a fan of players, teams, everything, and it just heightens the experience.

Eoghan · Post #50 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:58 am

From: http://www.nba.com/bobcats/draft12_royce_white.html

HOOPS WORLD
Big, strong and versatile. Can play either forward position. Does just about everyone on the floor. Has superb playmaking skills for a big man.

We can't afford to pass on this guy, he's going to be next Wilt Chamberlain. :lol:

Post #51 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:04 am

BrotherDave wrote:From: http://www.nba.com/bobcats/draft12_royce_white.html

HOOPS WORLD
Big, strong and versatile. Can play either forward position. Does just about everyone on the floor. Has superb playmaking skills for a big man.

We can't afford to pass on this guy, he's going to be next Wilt Chamberlain.

HornetJail · Post #52 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:06 pm

That gif is still funny even if it's the 652165th time I've seen it. :lol:

captaincrunk · Post #53 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:48 pm

BrotherDave wrote:From: http://www.nba.com/bobcats/draft12_royce_white.html

HOOPS WORLD
Big, strong and versatile. Can play either forward position. Does just about everyone on the floor. Has superb playmaking skills for a big man.

We can't afford to pass on this guy, he's going to be next Wilt Chamberlain.

captaincrunk · Post #54 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:53 pm

"Royce White’s beard is inspired by his favorite Beatle.

"John Lennon," White said when asked if the beard he sprouted since completing his lone season at Iowa State is homage to James Harden. "Philosophically and inspirationally, I connect with him."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1yjb0lWLQ

Even if I'm not personally impressed with John Lennon, this guy gets more and more interesting every time he's in the news.

EDIT: I also read that he has the largest hands at the combine

RichBoy923 · Post #55 » by **RichBoy923** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:31 pm

From watching his highlights (not going to lie, haven't watched a ISU game all year...why would I?) he reminds me a lot of a less athletic Blake Griffin. And when I compare players, I am doing it off their play style and strengths and weakness not on how I think they will produce numbers wise. He can dribble and maneuver around people like BG, can get to rim like BG, he can pass and rebound like BG, and he can't shoot like BG.

captaincrunk · Post #56 » by **captaincrunk** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:00 pm

RichBoy923 wrote:From watching his highlights (not going to lie, haven't watched a ISU game all year...why would I?) he reminds me a lot of a less athletic Blake Griffin. And when I compare players, I am doing it off their play style and strengths and weakness not on how I think they will produce numbers wise. He can dribble and maneuver around people like BG, can get to rim like BG, he can pass and rebound like BG, and he can't shoot like BG.

I think he's a better passer, worse shooter, and better ball handler. also size and speed goes to BG I guess, but you don't really notice it with Royce and there are no combine numbers.

Eoghan · Post #57 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:07 pm

RichBoy923 wrote:From watching his highlights (not going to lie, haven't watched a ISU game all year...why would I?) he reminds me a lot of a less athletic Blake Griffin. And when I compare players, I am doing it off their play style and strengths and weakness not on how I think they will produce numbers wise. He can dribble and maneuver around people like BG, can get to rim like BG, he can pass and rebound like BG, and he can't shoot like BG.

That is a pretty good comparison in terms of game style. Keep in mind that White is much heavier at 270 and if he slipped down to about 255 he'd be more athletic (he's still pretty athletic as is, just not BG level obviously). Like Crunk said, his passing and vision is much better than Blake's and I think he has a better low post game. Blake's a better shooter.

hotrod · Post #58 » by **hotrod** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:58 pm

I love Royce. Having watched most of his games this year I can say without a doubt he is better in the post than BG. RW reminds me of Barkley in the post. Barkley was one of the best ever at passing out of double teams. Royce does this very well also. He also has the back down spin to either side and finish with a dunk down. His perimeter jumper is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Though his free throw shooting is awful.

Post #59 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:29 pm

Do you see him as a SF or a PF hotrod?

Badd_Intentions · Post #60 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:17 pm

From what I've seen no way he plays at sf.