1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall Pt 2 (New Poll)

[captaincrunk]

Ariza is going to play, now I don't see them taking MKG, they have to be thinking Beal or bust.

washington just really screwed themselves. looking at their board, they thought they were gonna get the 10th overall as well. maybe they will.

[Eoghan]

If you are really looking for the best at creating his own shot, we'd draft Dion Waiters.

Waiters or Rivers probably. Beal is okay, he doesn't have the ball on a string handle of Rivers or the explosiveness of Waiters but he's really well-rounded. He just doesn't seem to excel at any one thing, shooting is the closest and I could definitely seeing it getting there.

Barnes is kind of in the same boat. Not really any glaring weaknesses and the criticisms he has I think have more to do with UNC's system. The guy wasn't hyped up for nothing, I think he just coasted at UNC and the rest of his cohorts caught up with him in terms of game. If he puts in work, he really could be the best player in this draft. He's just such an enigma and I'm very leery of drafting Roy William's guys b/c I think he is just awful at individual development.

I'm still pretty high on Robinson, all in all he fills the most holes in our swiss cheese ship. Rebounding, energy, hopefully some post offense, built like a mac truck and is well versed with dealing with adversity. Stylistically he and Biz may not be an ideal fit but we know we'll be getting a frontcourt ready to go to war every game. He's pretty much the anti-DJ White so I'll golf clap if he's the pick.

I've ran MKG through the ringer but if you put a gun to my head, I'd still pick him over Barnes but more for "basketball reasons" than actual basketball reasons. I feel like if we drafted a Barnes or Beal or even Thor and they're shockingly what you see is what you get, we'll be hamstrung in terms of making trades. I think MKG is more likely to be a better asset b/c other GMs will always be interested in a young guy who's a winner, high motor, etc. Even if he's damaged goods, he'll still be fool's gold enough to get good value back. And who knows, maybe Dunlap and Co. can turn him into the star the media thinks he'll be.

But yeah, I'm still sticking with Drummond. None of the workouts or interviews have dispelled the notion that he can't be a superstar in time. He's just a big kid learning how to play and I think he genuinely cares about basketball. Sure, he's laid back but so is Duncan and there have been just as many busts that seemed gung ho about the game and improving coming into the league as not. All these guys have floors at average or slightly above average NBA players and I don't think Drummond's is any lower. The difference is unlike the rest, if Drummond becomes an average player, he's still got great size for this position and freakish athleticism, making him a valuable trade asset. By all accounts, Dunlap sounds a great coach for getting the most out of Drummond and we're definitely taking the slow rebuild seriously so why not draft the guy with the most potential?

[Badd_Intentions]

River is prob the best at getting his shot, but Waiters is the best at getting his shot in the lane and finishing at the rim. I should have added that. If Beal's handle improves he'll be pretty deadly.

[HornetJail]

LOL that Wizards trade makes no sense for them.

They do realize they could have bought out Lewis's contract for half price, right?

[HasheemThabeet]

Okafor and Ariza are still decent players, Lewis is straight crap. It wasn't a Lewis salary dump, it was a let's get 8th place in the East move

[captaincrunk]

Okafor and Ariza are still decent players, Lewis is straight crap. It wasn't a Lewis salary dump, it was a let's get 8th place in the East move

I mean I guess they think they'll be ready after this draft... I don't...

John Wall
Draftpick
Ariza
Nene
Okafor

is what they're looking at. Kinda looks like the hornets with paul and west? eh not really, different skillsets. At any rate, that's what they'd look like.

[countryboi]

sounds like the wiz are trying to make a playoff push next season.....ariza and okafor are ass though i would have felt a lot better if they had gotten the 10th pick

[Eoghan]

Okafor and Ariza are still decent players, Lewis is straight crap. It wasn't a Lewis salary dump, it was a let's get 8th place in the East move

I mean I guess they think they'll be ready after this draft... I don't...

John Wall
Draftpick
Ariza
Nene
Okafor

is what they're looking at. Kinda looks like the hornets with paul and west? eh not really, different skillsets. At any rate, that's what they'd look like.

Wall
Beal
Ariza
Nene
Okafor

Isn't that bad. Crawford becomes a scoring sixth man which is what he's better suited for, they have a nice big in Seraphin but the rest of their bench is dreadful. I'd laugh if MJ drafted Beal to hold hostage from the Wizards but they don't have any players worth raping them for. Yeah, give me that sweet package of Chris Singleton and Shelvin Mack.

[_tijo_]

We totally milk Washington now for Beal... they need him bad. We totally talk up how we want Beal, or we are listening to a nice offer from Cleveland of the 4+24 because they want Beal. Either get them to swap picks with us + a future first, or talk with Cleveland (if they really want Beal) about the 4+24. Either way, this helps the Cats.

[countryboi]

i feel like the wiz just have waited on this deal because they have completely played their hand now....they have a huge hole at 2 and pretty much have to take beal

[fatlever]

for arguments sake, lets say the wiz really were set on beal. what would you ask from them in order to let them jump up from #3 to #2?

[raleigh]

i feel like the wiz just have waited on this deal because they have completely played their hand now....they have a huge hole at 2 and pretty much have to take beal

That's the consensus on the Internet, but I'm not sure I agree. They have young backcourt guys in Crawford and Wall. It seems to me like a veteran starter at the 2 makes some sense.

IOW, I could see them drafting Barnes if they need to.

[raleigh]

for arguments sake, lets say the wiz really were set on beal. what would you ask from them in order to let them jump up from #3 to #2?

Booker or Vesely.

[_tijo_]

for arguments sake, lets say the wiz really were set on beal. what would you ask from them in order to let them jump up from #3 to #2?

Future lotto protected first

[countryboi]

for arguments sake, lets say the wiz really were set on beal. what would you ask from them in order to let them jump up from #3 to #2?

I wouldnt mind singleton or vesely or a protected future first

[Liver_Pooty]

Singleton would be perfect in my eyes. Good defensive player that could come off the bench and give good minutes.

[Badd_Intentions]

Mind boggling. Lewis had about 2 years 45 mil left. Then they added about 62 mil over the next 4 years or so. Not to mention Nene is already making bank! WTF are they doing?

[freakon0mics]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Crawford stay at the two spot and they draft Barnes to play the 3 and have Ariza come off the bench.

[raleigh]

Singleton would be perfect in my eyes. Good defensive player that could come off the bench and give good minutes.

You can get guys like that for the minimum...

[countryboi]

Singleton would be perfect in my eyes. Good defensive player that could come off the bench and give good minutes.

You can get guys like that for the minimum...

guys that are 6'9 and guard about 3-4 different positions?