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Sachmo wrote:Stun704 wrote:You forget that Dragic was absolute trash in his last year in Phoenix, that's why they traded him. Dragic played well in a contract year, that simple.
Then why are Phoenix so keen to get him back?
Pimpwerx wrote:I was a fan of the Lakers...Yankees... It took me almost a decade to become a fan of the Miami teams...I know it's frowned upon, but if you can look at it as an outsider, it's easier to understand why it happens. PEACE.
Leolovinliberal wrote:Dragic is awesome. This would be a great get, and relegate Kemba Chucker to where he's best suited; instant offense off of the bench. He's nothing like Calderon, nothing.
Pimpwerx wrote:I was a fan of the Lakers...Yankees... It took me almost a decade to become a fan of the Miami teams...I know it's frowned upon, but if you can look at it as an outsider, it's easier to understand why it happens. PEACE.
Stun704 wrote:Kemba2Hendo wrote:Stun704 wrote:Dragic is fools gold. you need a bigger sample size then 20 games and a playoff run in-order to justify throwing big money at a PG, thats how Caleron got overpaid.
It took Dragic 3 years in order to have a better PER then Kembas rookie season. statistically Dragics Per 36 mins stats have been around 14/6 thats DJ Augustin numbers, hes 25, he doesn't have much upside left, Don't overpay. I'd rather sign a undrafted rookie or some scrub like Lester Hudson then sign a mediocre PG to a 8+ mil deal
To keep things in perspective, didn't DJ have a great string of games after LB got fired? what happened after that? he fizzled out and remained mediocre, same thing will happen to Dragic after he gets paid.
Not even to mention you are stunting the growth of your PG of now and the future. If they do this I would not blame Kemba at all for wanting out of here at the end of his first contract.
If we're gonna follow the OKC model, then we need to do so and improve on it. the part of the OKC model that is perfect is that they didn't sign anybody to long term contractsuntil their corner pieces(Durant & Westbrook) were RFA's. we need to do the same thing in order to maintain cap flexibility, we need to draft a big 3 before we sign FA's to long term deals.
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Dragic's numbers as a starter were very impressive. Abstractly I would love for him to be a Cat ... but the $9 mil number bugs me. Just seems a bit high given the overall body of work.
In additon to what was posted above number wise, Houston's defense was better with him as a starter as well so it's not like he's a huge liablity there either. That's the good news. He could easily be a starter on a lot of teams if he kept that kind of play up.
The bad news would be the contract IMHO. That $9 mil number would eat up a lot of the free space the team was talking about having this year. It would reduce the flexiblity they could have in getting more draft picks for next year.
Yeah 26 yo Dragics Career 15/6 Per 36 mins screams cornerstoneJaruff wrote:Stun704 wrote:Kemba2Hendo wrote:
Not even to mention you are stunting the growth of your PG of now and the future. If they do this I would not blame Kemba at all for wanting out of here at the end of his first contract.
If we're gonna follow the OKC model, then we need to do so and improve on it. the part of the OKC model that is perfect is that they didn't sign anybody to long term contractsuntil their corner pieces(Durant & Westbrook) were RFA's. we need to do the same thing in order to maintain cap flexibility, we need to draft a big 3 before we sign FA's to long term deals.
Perhaps Dragic is the cornerstone and Kemba is an extra.
Pimpwerx wrote:I was a fan of the Lakers...Yankees... It took me almost a decade to become a fan of the Miami teams...I know it's frowned upon, but if you can look at it as an outsider, it's easier to understand why it happens. PEACE.
Stun704 wrote:Kemba2Hendo wrote:Stun704 wrote:Dragic is fools gold. you need a bigger sample size then 20 games and a playoff run in-order to justify throwing big money at a PG, thats how Caleron got overpaid.
It took Dragic 3 years in order to have a better PER then Kembas rookie season. statistically Dragics Per 36 mins stats have been around 14/6 thats DJ Augustin numbers, hes 25, he doesn't have much upside left, Don't overpay. I'd rather sign a undrafted rookie or some scrub like Lester Hudson then sign a mediocre PG to a 8+ mil deal
To keep things in perspective, didn't DJ have a great string of games after LB got fired? what happened after that? he fizzled out and remained mediocre, same thing will happen to Dragic after he gets paid.
Not even to mention you are stunting the growth of your PG of now and the future. If they do this I would not blame Kemba at all for wanting out of here at the end of his first contract.
If we're gonna follow the OKC model, then we need to do so and improve on it. the part of the OKC model that is perfect is that they didn't sign anybody to long term contractsuntil their corner pieces(Durant & Westbrook) were RFA's. we need to do the same thing in order to maintain cap flexibility, we need to draft a big 3 before we sign FA's to long term deals.
freakon0mics wrote:Ideally I would like to see him get 6-7 million a year for 3 years but I'm thinking if its a short term contract he would want it between 8-9 million instead.
Pimpwerx wrote:I was a fan of the Lakers...Yankees... It took me almost a decade to become a fan of the Miami teams...I know it's frowned upon, but if you can look at it as an outsider, it's easier to understand why it happens. PEACE.
Stun704 wrote:Leolovinliberal wrote:Dragic is awesome. This would be a great get, and relegate Kemba Chucker to where he's best suited; instant offense off of the bench. He's nothing like Calderon, nothing.
The analogy with Caleron is that hes gonna be the next mediocre euro pg with a toxic contract
Stun704 wrote:whats the point of signing him to a 3 year contract? he won't turn us into a contender, and if hes as good as yall say he'll make our draft picks worse
Yeah 26 yo Dragics Career 15/6 Per 36 mins screams cornerstone[/quote]Stun704 wrote:Perhaps Dragic is the cornerstone and Kemba is an extra.
Stun704 wrote:freakon0mics wrote:Ideally I would like to see him get 6-7 million a year for 3 years but I'm thinking if its a short term contract he would want it between 8-9 million instead.
whats the point of signing him to a 3 year contract? he won't turn us into a contender, and if hes as good as yall say he'll make our draft picks worse
therebirth wrote:He is not coming here. Agents are throwing the cats name out there to scare the team they really want.
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RT @ESPNSteinLine: Suns move quickly after Steve Nash trade and strike four-year deal with Goran Dragic worth $34 million, sources tell ESPN
It would be really funny if Brooks goes back to Houston.Kemba2Hendo wrote:Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
Phoenix agrees to a four-year, $34 million deal with Goran Dragic, says @ESPNSteinLine. Suns' restricted FA Aaron Brooks may be on the move.
