The Official "Build For The Future" Thread

[catch20two]

Atrocious is relative. In Utah Kemba is superior to Foye and Tinsley.

Superior is relative. In Charlotte Kemba is the best PG to ever play for the Bobcats.

[fatlever]

going forward, lets keep all of the "how i would fix the bobcats" threads in this thread. we dont need a new thread every time someone wants to tell us their blueprint for improving the team.

any new similar threads will be merged into this one.

thanks

Sorry, my bad.

no worries. there were 3 similar threads on main page. just figured its better to consolidate ideas into one place.

[Leolovinliberal]

Atrocious is relative. In Utah Kemba is superior to Foye and Tinsley.

Superior is relative. In Charlotte Kemba is the best combo guard to ever play PG for the Bobcats.

Fixed it for accuracy.

[SWedd523]

Atrocious is relative. In Utah Kemba is superior to Foye and Tinsley.

Superior is relative. In Charlotte Kemba Chucker is a poor man's Nate Robinson.

Fixed it for accuracy.

Fixed it for accuracy

[JMAC3]

My Rebuild Process.

Step 1. Fire Dunlap ASAP

Step 2. Hire Alvin Gentry to finish the season

Step 3. Draft Ben McLemore

Step 4. (If land Portland pick-Doubtful) Take the best big left. Zeller, WCS, Plumlee, or Olynyk will be available. Goebert, Austin, and McAdoo will prolly be getting thoughts here too.

Step 5. Let Diop, McRoberts, Reggie, Hendo, and Mullens drop off books

Step 6. Amnesty Tyrus Thomas

FREE AGENCY- Cap before draft 32 million, Cap after draft 36-38 million. Projected Salary Cap 59 million.

Roster at this point:
Kemba- Sessions
McLemore- Gordon
MKG- Taylor
?- possibly Portland pick guy
Biyombo- Haywood


Step 7. Sign the big money frontcourt guy. We would have roughly 20 million in cap space. I would spend a large chunk of it on one of these guys Josh Smith, Pekovic, Al Jefferson, or Millsap. I would be willing to pay any of these guys around 13 million for their services.

Step 8. Sign the hustle bigs. I would try to sign one or two guys from this list with whatever is left over from signing one of those 4 guys. Canidates include DeJuan Blair, Tiago Splitter, Zaza Pachulia, Timofey Mozgov, Jason Maxiell, Earl Clark, JJ Hickson, and Carl Landry. Like I said above if payed out 13 million per for one of those guys that would leave 7 million to sign as many of these guys as we could even if on short term deals.

New Frontcourt

Josh Smith/Millsap- Earl Clark- Portland Pick
JJ Hickson- Biz- Haywood

or some other combination listed from above. Think this team would fit Gentry system well.


Step 9. Employ Alvin Gentry system of fast paced offense, focused on pick and rolls and sharing the ball.

Step 10. Watch our young guys develop in a better environment, where we are competing every night. We prolly still have a top 7 pick. Take a good player there, never know who will be there and how they will turn out. Once our young guys develop we could be a dangerous team in the playoffs.

I think this is a very possible plan, without depending on landing Wiggins or any crazy trades. You notice I did not bring back either Hendo or Mully, whose QO alone would cost us 7.5 million, I think money can be spent else where for better fits.

[Kembastockton]

1. Fire Dunlap- Dunlap was hired for his ability to get the most out of young players not to win games. There is no reason to fire Dunlap until we get a team that's ready to win.

2. Let Hendo walk- 1st choice would be to try again draft night to get something for him. But if he walks no biggie.

3. Let Gordon walk- Gordon is definitely not in our long term plans.

4.Trade Kemba, MKG (Heck no!) and Manos de Piedras to Utah for Favors, Hayward and their 2 first round picks ( Utah is not trading Favors.) If you think Kemba and company are worth two versatile young bigs and 2 firsts why do you want to trade them?

5. Draft NN with the 1st pick- I think that you guys can give this one up. The Cats are still to high on Biz.

6. Draft Kelly Olynyk with #13- Currently #2 behind Mason ( who will likely go top 10) for my choice at this pick.

7. Draft Myck Kabongo with #18 You can't honestly believe that this kid is better than Kemba.

8. Draft Dario Saric with #20 Bust waiting to happen. Another underweight European big who thinks he is a guard. I would rather bring back Fabio.

9. Sign JJ Redick- If his jumper isn't falling he is more useless than Mully.

[catch20two]

1. Fire Dunlap- Dunlap was hired for his ability to get the most out of young players not to win games. There is no reason to fire Dunlap until we get a team that's ready to win.

2. Let Hendo walk- 1st choice would be to try again draft night to get something for him. But if he walks no biggie.

3. Let Gordon walk- Gordon is definitely not in our long term plans.

4.Trade Kemba, MKG (Heck no!) and Manos de Piedras to Utah for Favors, Hayward and their 2 first round picks ( Utah is not trading Favors.) If you think Kemba and company are worth two versatile young bigs and 2 firsts why do you want to trade them?

5. Draft NN with the 1st pick- I think that you guys can give this one up. The Cats are still to high on Biz.

6. Draft Kelly Olynyk with #13- Currently #2 behind Mason ( who will likely go top 10) for my choice at this pick.

7. Draft Myck Kabongo with #18 You can't honestly believe that this kid is better than Kemba.

8. Draft Dario Saric with #20 Bust waiting to happen. Another underweight European big who thinks he is a guard. I would rather bring back Fabio.

9. Sign JJ Redick- If his jumper isn't falling he is more useless than Mully.

I'm assuming that this is a rebuttal to Leolovinliberal's rebuild plan?

[Kembastockton]

1. Fire Dunlap- Dunlap was hired for his ability to get the most out of young players not to win games. There is no reason to fire Dunlap until we get a team that's ready to win.

2. Let Hendo walk- 1st choice would be to try again draft night to get something for him. But if he walks no biggie.

3. Let Gordon walk- Gordon is definitely not in our long term plans.

4.Trade Kemba, MKG (Heck no!) and Manos de Piedras to Utah for Favors, Hayward and their 2 first round picks ( Utah is not trading Favors.) If you think Kemba and company are worth two versatile young bigs and 2 firsts why do you want to trade them?

5. Draft NN with the 1st pick- I think that you guys can give this one up. The Cats are still to high on Biz.

6. Draft Kelly Olynyk with #13- Currently #2 behind Mason ( who will likely go top 10) for my choice at this pick.

7. Draft Myck Kabongo with #18 You can't honestly believe that this kid is better than Kemba.

8. Draft Dario Saric with #20 Bust waiting to happen. Another underweight European big who thinks he is a guard. I would rather bring back Fabio.

9. Sign JJ Redick- If his jumper isn't falling he is more useless than Mully.

I'm assuming that this is a rebuttal to Leolovinliberal's rebuild plan?

[Kembastockton]

My plan is thus.

1. Predraft evaluations: We need to get all the information possible about Nerlens, Shabazz, McLemore, Bennett, Smart, Zeller, Oladipo, Len, Plumley, Stein, Olynyk, Little Big Dog, and Porter. Of course we will work them out against each other, but I would like to see us bring in a few of our current players and see how these guys look against current nba players. Thes guys all seem to be so close in talent that I will not be disappointed at all if my favs Ben and Mase are not picked. But I do believe that our two picks need to come from this bunch.

2. Try one last time to trade Gerald for a pick. Maybe Minnesota or OKC will be more receptive draft night. If we get one we take another kid from my previous list. I think the best case scenario would be Nerlens number one with Bennett falling to us at 7 or 8, and Oladipo at 13.

3. Go into free agency planning to spend little to no money. I would offer modest contracts to the following players, and scrape em off if they balked. JJ Hickson, Paul Milsap, Kevin Martin, and Nick Young in that order of importance. Of that list the only one I really want is JJ. He is still young enough to become part of our long term plans. The offers I give the rest will probably insult them. I don't want to commit any major money until 14 after those new young studs have their destinations. Then I want to throw everything not nailed down at Paul George and Demarcus Cousins.

[BobsBuddy]

We need Wiggins to build this team around...Thats #1 pick in 2014 draft. That means next season another 15-67 to get shot at pick.
Keep KW
Extend Sessions
Extend Mullins or offer contract to MC Rob? Minimum to Adrien. 1 or 2 stay and 1 walks.
Develop MKG,JT
Trade Biz to Brooklyn for Marshon Brooks and second round 2014 pick.
Try to get something for Hendo(1st round pick 2013 to OKC and draft a center Withey or Dieng) Otherwise let him walk as RFA.
Haywood,Gordon,(trade both to Utah for a signed 3 year contract Al Jefferson)Amensity TT for extra cash to sign Jefferson.
Use Diop/Rwill expiring to sign Sessions,Mullins and maybe MCRob/Adrien
Draft Shabazz or McLenmore 2013 1st and then if Portland doesn't make playoffs Plumlee at 13.
Win 22 or less games in 2014 to get into top 3 lottery pick and get shot at Wiggins
Make playoffs 2015 season Eastern Conf final 2017, 2018 ?

[HornetJail]

Yall know we can't trade Gerald for a pick unless we extend and trade him before draft day.

[fatlever]

no real good thread to put this and not worthy of starting new one

from grantland
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/901 ... -teams-nba

Charlotte Bobcats

The Kitties are 6-42 since their fool's gold 7-5 start, and they've barely been competitive of late; 10 of their past 14 losses have been blowouts of at least 14 points. They're 29th in offensive efficiency and dead last in defensive efficiency, and their point differential is once again the worst in the league by a huge margin. In other words: They are not as bad as they were last season, but they're still closer to "historically bad" than "run-of-the-mill bad." Progress of any kind, from Michael Kidd-Gilchrist's jumper to the dancing skills of the team's inflatable mascot, would be welcome. There is value in every game, and every quarter Mike Dunlap gets to evaluate his borderline experimental pack-the-paint defensive system.

Some other quick-hitting specifics to watch: Can Kemba Walker solidify his emergence as an efficient scoring point guard on offense and improve defensively? Can Kidd-Gilchrist rebound on offense and cut his fouling on defense after smashing into the rookie wall? Can Bismack Biyombo, still (allegedly) so young, show glimpses of NBA-level offensive skill? Charlotte also has to decide if there's any reason, save for the pain of a sunk cost, in delaying the amnesty trigger on Tyrus Thomas, and whether Gerald Henderson is a core piece. Henderson's a useful two-way player who has shown improved 3-point accuracy on a higher volume of attempts, but he's about to get overpaid in a market oversaturated with cap space. Charlotte tried to deal him for a future first-round pick at the deadline but came up empty.

[countryboi]

man the cats are simple they are missing a low post presence. you draft Noel, yea he is raw as hell and you pair him with jefferson or millsap. you pay him what ever they want because we suck and boom your much better but still not good enough to win a bunch of games.

[Kembastockton]

Can Bismack Biyombo, still (allegedly) so young, show glimpses of NBA-level offensive skill?

I can not believe we are still hearing this nonsense. How can anyone look at Biz' baby face and think he is in his mid twenties? My sixteen year old looks older than Biz does.

[Leolovinliberal]

1. Fire Dunlap- Dunlap was hired for his ability to get the most out of young players not to win games. There is no reason to fire Dunlap until we get a team that's ready to win.

2. Let Hendo walk- 1st choice would be to try again draft night to get something for him. But if he walks no biggie.

3. Let Gordon walk- Gordon is definitely not in our long term plans.

4.Trade Kemba, MKG (Heck no!) and Manos de Piedras to Utah for Favors, Hayward and their 2 first round picks ( Utah is not trading Favors.) If you think Kemba and company are worth two versatile young bigs and 2 firsts why do you want to trade them?

5. Draft NN with the 1st pick- I think that you guys can give this one up. The Cats are still to high on Biz.

6. Draft Kelly Olynyk with #13- Currently #2 behind Mason ( who will likely go top 10) for my choice at this pick.

7. Draft Myck Kabongo with #18 You can't honestly believe that this kid is better than Kemba.

8. Draft Dario Saric with #20 Bust waiting to happen. Another underweight European big who thinks he is a guard. I would rather bring back Fabio.

9. Sign JJ Redick- If his jumper isn't falling he is more useless than Mully.

I think he will be eventually, yes. I see him as a better scoring Rondo.

[Leolovinliberal]

man the cats are simple they are missing a low post presence. you draft Noel, yea he is raw as hell and you pair him with jefferson or millsap. you pay him what ever they want because we suck and boom your much better but still not good enough to win a bunch of games.

Why not pair him with Favors? And have Kabongo running the point?

[Eoghan]

1. Fire Dunlap
2. Let Hendo walk
3Let Gordon walk
4.Trade Kemba, MKG and Manos de Piedras to Utah for Favors, Hayward and their 2 first round picks
5. Draft NN with the 1st pick
6. Draft Kelly Olynyk with #13
7. Draft Myck Kabongo with #18
8. Draft Dario Saric with #20
9. Sign JJ Redick

PG: Sessions, Kabongo
SG: Taylor, Redick
SF: Hayward, Saric
PF: Favors, Olynyk
C: Nerlens Noel, Mully

A team with a good young core and some veteran leadership with players that actually play their respective positions. A young, energetic team that will lose a lot but grow together. Orlando and Cleveland are doing it the right way, this plan would follow suit.

[ball teacher]

Honestly, the only three players we have that seem to be starter material are MKG, Henderson, and Sessions. I wouldn't lose sleep if Henderson left either. I don't know why Sam Mitchell isn't coaching in the league anymore either, but he can coach and I don't know why Mike doesn't bring him along to coach this squad.
I'd get some big men coaches to teach Mullens and Biyombo how to play properly, propably keep Mcroberts, and hope Cho drafts well.

[HornetJail]

Honestly, the only three players we have that seem to be starter material are MKG, Henderson, and Sessions. I wouldn't lose sleep if Henderson left either. I don't know why Sam Mitchell isn't coaching in the league anymore either, but he can coach and I don't know why Mike doesn't bring him along to coach this squad.
I'd get some big men coaches to teach Mullens and Biyombo how to play properly, propably keep Mcroberts, and hope Cho drafts well.

Which one is it? Did you accidentally leave Kemba out or did he sleep with your girlfriend/wife?

[Leolovinliberal]

Honestly, the only three players we have that seem to be starter material are MKG, Henderson, and Sessions. I wouldn't lose sleep if Henderson left either. I don't know why Sam Mitchell isn't coaching in the league anymore either, but he can coach and I don't know why Mike doesn't bring him along to coach this squad.
I'd get some big men coaches to teach Mullens and Biyombo how to play properly, propably keep Mcroberts, and hope Cho drafts well.

Which one is it? Did you accidentally leave Kemba out or did he sleep with your girlfriend/wife?

Kemba is not a starter on a championship caliber team, which I hope is the ultimate aspiration. Ideally, he is an explosive 6th man instant offense kinda guy, i.e Jamal Crawford.