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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#41 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:13 am

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NataFresh wrote:One thing I'm not sure folks are factoring into the discussion when free agency is brought up: Kemba needs an extension also...and you're looking at AT LEAST Lawson money. And considering that cap flexibility is one of Cho's/Mj's mandates...not sure Stephenson or Turner is realistic

They are realistic but only if we trade Hendo.


Henderson's contract is reasonable, but it's the type of contract that you add on with the MLE once your team already know that they are a annual playoff contender, and just needed one more solid piece. Unless Charlotte plans on trading MKG, then they need to start considering dealing Henderson, because the two of them cannot successfully co-exist on a team expecting to have at least average offensive efficiency
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Post#42 » by Roll Tide 09 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:22 am

Let Gordon walk free, let Sessions walk free, find a way to get rid of Henderson and Haywood (if Haywood isn't a free agent this summer) for nothing and/or cheap. Sign Granger to a 2 year 18mil max. Offer Stephenson up to a 4 year 11mil per year. If the Heat for some reason do away with Oden during the summer, sign him as well.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#43 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:26 am

Roll Tide 09 wrote:Let Gordon walk free, let Sessions walk free, find a way to get rid of Henderson and Haywood (if Haywood isn't a free agent this summer) for nothing and/or cheap. Sign Granger to a 2 year 18mil max. Offer Stephenson up to a 4 year 11mil per year. If the Heat for some reason do away with Oden during the summer, sign him as well.

I liked everything you said until I got to the part about adding the Pacers spare parts for 20m annually and going after Oden.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with  

Post#44 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:30 am

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Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#45 » by Roll Tide 09 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:38 am

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Roll Tide 09 wrote:Let Gordon walk free, let Sessions walk free, find a way to get rid of Henderson and Haywood (if Haywood isn't a free agent this summer) for nothing and/or cheap. Sign Granger to a 2 year 18mil max. Offer Stephenson up to a 4 year 11mil per year. If the Heat for some reason do away with Oden during the summer, sign him as well.

I liked everything you said until I got to the part about adding the Pacers spare parts for 20m annually and going after Oden.


The 9mil per year would be absolute max for Granger, personally I believe his worth RIGHT NOW is around the MLE (or lower). I also think Stephenson could be signed for under 10mil per year, but I have to remember that we're the Charlotte Bobcats at the moment. I still like Oden for cheap though.
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Post#46 » by Roll Tide 09 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:45 am

Anyone notice the improvement from Alexis Ajinca with the Pelicans?
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with  

Post#47 » by dmutombo321 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:51 am

Agree about Granger. He's 31, injury prone and a shell of his former self. I'd just stay away from him altogether.

Stephenson should be the goal, even if it costs 10-11 mil. The facts the he's young, hungry, leads the league in triple doubles and is pissed about his recent allstar snub makes his talent all the more alluring.

Offloading Hendo's salary on someone in the interim should be another priority. That would free up another 6 mil and I dont think we'd lose much, if anything if we had Taylor/CDR backing up 2 guard instead of Hendo.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#48 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:55 am

The Lance Stephenson idea is growing on me. I didn't think it was possible until the news about him being a NY and friend of Kemba's. And someone upthread mentioned how we have Big Al and Kemba as attractions now which is true. We are one deadline move (Turner) and one free agent (Stephenson) and one draft pick (LaVine or Harris) away from being a strong #3 seed for many years to come. It would be extra special if Biz, Zeller and MKG all improved as well.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#49 » by Joest2003 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:28 am

MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C


Wheres Jeff Taylor at? Call me crazy but I see more potential in Taylor than I do in Biz, MKG, and Zeller. Taylor is a glue/X factor guy we really took a hit when we lost him but when he comes back healthy next year its gonna be a treat.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#50 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:33 am

Joest2003 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C


Wheres Jeff Taylor at? Call me crazy but I see more potential in Taylor than I do in Biz, MKG, and Zeller. Taylor is a glue/X factor guy we really took a hit when we lost him but when he comes back healthy next year its gonna be a treat.

You're crazy!!! Lol. Just kidding because you told me to call you crazy if I disagree and I disagree. Taylor was arguably our worst player before getting injured and he definitely don't have more potential than neither of MKG or Biz. Not to mention Taylor is almost as old as Hendo while MKG and Biz aren't old enough to legally drink.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#51 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:33 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C


Wheres Jeff Taylor at? Call me crazy but I see more potential in Taylor than I do in Biz, MKG, and Zeller. Taylor is a glue/X factor guy we really took a hit when we lost him but when he comes back healthy next year its gonna be a treat.


Maybe draft LaVine as a combo guard (instead of Harris who is strictly a SG) and the PG for the 2nd unit and put Taylor at SG for the 2nd unit. I believe we are a formidable 3 seed with this squad so I wanted Napier's experience as a senior on the 2nd unit and Gary Harris is a sophomore and more NBA ready 2-way player for a win now team compared to LaVine. I guess Taylor can be the SF on the 2nd unit if they decide to trade MKG for a PF instead of signing DeJuan Blair.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#52 » by Joest2003 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:42 am

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Joest2003 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C


Wheres Jeff Taylor at? Call me crazy but I see more potential in Taylor than I do in Biz, MKG, and Zeller. Taylor is a glue/X factor guy we really took a hit when we lost him but when he comes back healthy next year its gonna be a treat.

You're crazy!!! Lol. Just kidding because you told me to call you crazy if I disagree and I disagree. Taylor was arguably our worst player before getting injured and he definitely don't have more potential than neither of MKG or Biz. Not to mention Taylor is almost as old as Hendo while MKG and Biz aren't old enough to legally drink.


LOL damm I didnt think he was that bad but looking at his stats lets just say i might have talked him up just a little bit. but he does seem to play good D and can score a little more than MKG can.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#53 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:52 am

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catch20two wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:
Wheres Jeff Taylor at? Call me crazy but I see more potential in Taylor than I do in Biz, MKG, and Zeller. Taylor is a glue/X factor guy we really took a hit when we lost him but when he comes back healthy next year its gonna be a treat.

You're crazy!!! Lol. Just kidding because you told me to call you crazy if I disagree and I disagree. Taylor was arguably our worst player before getting injured and he definitely don't have more potential than neither of MKG or Biz. Not to mention Taylor is almost as old as Hendo while MKG and Biz aren't old enough to legally drink.


LOL damm I didnt think he was that bad but looking at his stats lets just say i might have talked him up just a little bit. but he does seem to play good D and can score a little more than MKG can.

Taylor's shooting form is whole lot prettier than MKG's but I wouldn't say he's a better scorer. That's not to say that I think MKG is a better scorer neither. They are about the same. Neither are ready to average over 13-15 points yet.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#54 » by Eoghan » Sat Feb 8, 2014 5:27 am

MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

There are more athletic teams at the YMCA than that starting five. A pf with no ACLs and a center that moves like he was born without them, plus Turner's slow ass? I'd rather watch the 7win team play than 1920s basketball.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#55 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 8, 2014 10:11 am

BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

There are more athletic teams at the YMCA than that starting five. A pf with no ACLs and a center that moves like he was born without them, plus Turner's slow ass? I'd rather watch the 7win team play than 1920s basketball.


Well eventually you start MKG and Zeller but let's be realistic.

Kemba, Stephenson and Big Al are damn good. That team is deep as well.

Maybe just turn on your TV when the 2nd unit plays and when the starters are in switch to Sixers games? :thumbsup:
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#56 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 10:23 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:2014-2015 Charlotte Hornets


Kemba Walker-PG
Lance Stephenson-SG
Evan Turner-SF
DeJuan Blair-PF
Al Jefferson-C

2nd unit

Shabazz Napier-PG
Gary Harris-SG
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist-SF
Cody Zeller-PF
Bismack Biyombo-C

There are more athletic teams at the YMCA than that starting five. A pf with no ACLs and a center that moves like he was born without them, plus Turner's slow ass? I'd rather watch the 7win team play than 1920s basketball.


Well eventually you start MKG and Zeller but let's be realistic.

Kemba, Stephenson and Big Al are damn good. That team is deep as well.

Maybe just turn on your TV when the 2nd unit plays and when the starters are in switch to Sixers games? :thumbsup:


Dave talked about something completely different. Never did he say that those players weren't good.
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#57 » by gehenherzog » Sat Feb 8, 2014 12:40 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:There are more athletic teams at the YMCA than that starting five. A pf with no ACLs and a center that moves like he was born without them, plus Turner's slow ass? I'd rather watch the 7win team play than 1920s basketball.


Well eventually you start MKG and Zeller but let's be realistic.

Kemba, Stephenson and Big Al are damn good. That team is deep as well.

Maybe just turn on your TV when the 2nd unit plays and when the starters are in switch to Sixers games? :thumbsup:


Dave talked about something completely different. Never did he say that those players weren't good.

Dave is content with watching bad basketball. If it's exciting, the record doesn't matter
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#58 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:15 pm

gehenherzog wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Well eventually you start MKG and Zeller but let's be realistic.

Kemba, Stephenson and Big Al are damn good. That team is deep as well.

Maybe just turn on your TV when the 2nd unit plays and when the starters are in switch to Sixers games? :thumbsup:


Dave talked about something completely different. Never did he say that those players weren't good.

Dave is content with watching bad basketball. If it's exciting, the record doesn't matter

True or not that assumption may be, that's Dave's problem then.
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Post#59 » by Bassman » Sat Feb 8, 2014 1:36 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:Agree about Granger. He's 31, injury prone and a shell of his former self. I'd just stay away from him altogether.

Stephenson should be the goal, even if it costs 10-11 mil. The facts the he's young, hungry, leads the league in triple doubles and is pissed about his recent allstar snub makes his talent all the more alluring.

Offloading Hendo's salary on someone in the interim should be another priority. That would free up another 6 mil and I dont think we'd lose much, if anything if we had Taylor/CDR backing up 2 guard instead of Hendo.


Again, dmutumbo and I agree; Stephenson is target 1. A SG on the upside that has star potential, a nice shot and a physical player/defender. With a guy like Lance we could continue developing MKG in hopes that he becomes more assertive with his driving & scoring to compliment his defense. Then focus on the best available NBA talent in the draft (not a reach).
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Re: Free Agents for 2014? Who would realistically sign with 

Post#60 » by KingExecutive » Sat Feb 8, 2014 2:23 pm

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Some of those guys I understand (Beasley, Blatche, Gay...), but others? Why not Jordan Hamilton? Young guy, solid shooter with potential. Ed Davis would strengthen arguably our weakest position. And guys like Price and Bazemore make the minimum so they'd be rather inconsequential as well.


This.

Everyone in this thread seems to have their sights high. No problem with that as it shows faith in the Hornets future.

However, I'd really look for guys who you buy low on, but could still make a big impact. Jordan Hamilton barely gets playing time on a crowded Nuggets team, but perhaps with a change of scenery, he could provide some value. Same with other guys like Davis and Bazemore.

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