Gurkel: The Brian Roberts Thread

[catch20two]

So you have a preference of spending 5 million on Mo or Jameer thus not allowing us to go after Lance potentially?

Neither of those guys would sign for the room exception with us.

If we never would've signed Messy Marv's mediocre ass we wouldn't be worried about that, now would we?

We also wouldn't have a starting PF if we hadn't. Wasting money on a 12 minute per game backup isn't worth it.

Messy Marv ain't no starting PF. Zeller will be better than him. I don't even like Zeller like that but I'm positive of that. Jeremy Evans made the Jazz better at PF than Messy Marv did.

[BeesWax]

If we never would've signed Messy Marv's mediocre ass we wouldn't be worried about that, now would we?

We also wouldn't have a starting PF if we hadn't. Wasting money on a 12 minute per game backup isn't worth it.

Messy Marv ain't no starting PF. Zeller will be better than him. I don't even like Zeller like that but I'm positive of that. Jeremy Evans made the Jazz better at PF than Messy Marv did.

But Zeller wasn't better than him last season. Williams provides what Clifford wanted at PF which was shooting while Zeller doesn't.

I get you hate Williams but if you look at it basketball wise we needed a starter and he can do that for us. I don't see why it is so hard to see that.

[BlackOutBuzz]

There aren't many better options because we wasted all of our time tryna sign Hayward overrated ass the first week of free agency while the good backup PGs went St. Elsewhere. Why not Jameer Nelson? Isn't he still available?

Backup PG was one of our glaring weaknesses all of last year when Kemba went to the bench and this the best we can do?!?

PF depth was our other weakness and we address that with Messy Marv mediocre ass while letting McBob go so we got weaker there.

We still don't have a SG that's a upgrade to Hendo. What the hell are we doing?!? Getting worst?!?

THERE WAS NOBODY BETTER.

For what we want to spend on a backup PG there wasn't a better option. McRoberts wanted more years that we want to give. If you look you can see a pattern of freeing space for 2016. Josh wanted a longer contract so he left. The best player for us in FA was Hayward he fit our team better than anyone else out there so we made the smart play and signed him to a contract Utah would be stupid to match. They were just stupid and did it. He had a chance at living up to it here and no chance there due to team composition. If you look at it long term and not short term we are doing fine. We haven't wasted anything or killed our team with anybody.

Spending money just to spend money is not smart business. We are taking a more deliberate approach and targeting good fits.

We are not the worst but may have gotten worse. If you look at what we are doing we have upgraded backup PG. FA is not over and every move we have mdd makes some sense to a long term plan.

Remember when we had a lot of money to spend? Yea I remember that too. Lol smh.

I mean, $13m ain't bad.

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[Eoghan]

Remember when we had a lot of money to spend? Yea I remember that too. Lol smh.

Catch, I feel you bro. It's looking a lot like Charlotte is just keeping the lights on until 2016 when they aim to buy a franchise player. They aren't trying to win-now, they're trying to do just enough to sell tix and see which of the Kemba/MKG/Biyombo/Zeller/Vonleh group will be worth keeping to play alongside 2016 FAs.

We'll just have to cryogenically freeze ourselves for 2 years so we don't have to pretend we're trying to be good for the next couple of years.

[catch20two]

We also wouldn't have a starting PF if we hadn't. Wasting money on a 12 minute per game backup isn't worth it.

Messy Marv ain't no starting PF. Zeller will be better than him. I don't even like Zeller like that but I'm positive of that. Jeremy Evans made the Jazz better at PF than Messy Marv did.

But Zeller wasn't better than him last season. Williams provides what Clifford wanted at PF which was shooting while Zeller doesn't.

I get you hate Williams but if you look at it basketball wise we needed a starter and he can do that for us. I don't see why it is so hard to see that.

Zeller was just as good as a rookie last year, maybe slightly worst. Zeller was a better rebounder, passer, and scored at about the same rate. If Zeller didn't stink up his first 3-4 months he would've been significantly WAY WAY WAY better. Messy Marv is a bum and you UNC fans know it. Lol

[HornetJail]

THERE WAS NOBODY BETTER.

For what we want to spend on a backup PG there wasn't a better option. McRoberts wanted more years that we want to give. If you look you can see a pattern of freeing space for 2016. Josh wanted a longer contract so he left. The best player for us in FA was Hayward he fit our team better than anyone else out there so we made the smart play and signed him to a contract Utah would be stupid to match. They were just stupid and did it. He had a chance at living up to it here and no chance there due to team composition. If you look at it long term and not short term we are doing fine. We haven't wasted anything or killed our team with anybody.

Spending money just to spend money is not smart business. We are taking a more deliberate approach and targeting good fits.

We are not the worst but may have gotten worse. If you look at what we are doing we have upgraded backup PG. FA is not over and every move we have mdd makes some sense to a long term plan.

Remember when we had a lot of money to spend? Yea I remember that too. Lol smh.

I mean, $13m ain't bad.

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I still think this should be enough for Stephenson. neal and JT are moveable if it isn't.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Remember when we had a lot of money to spend? Yea I remember that too. Lol smh.

I mean, $13m ain't bad.

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I still think this should be enough for Stephenson. neal and JT are moveable if it isn't.

Yup, and worst case scenario we use the stretch provision on Neal for some more space.

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[ARHornet]

Not a bad move. I'd hope we could bring in a better number 2 option but Roberts would be a great 3rd PG.

I hope we do something of worth with the rest of the cap space. I wish we'd just go get Lance.

[JDR720]

This guy will only play like 12 minutes per game this is a fine signing

[BeesWax]

Messy Marv ain't no starting PF. Zeller will be better than him. I don't even like Zeller like that but I'm positive of that. Jeremy Evans made the Jazz better at PF than Messy Marv did.

But Zeller wasn't better than him last season. Williams provides what Clifford wanted at PF which was shooting while Zeller doesn't.

I get you hate Williams but if you look at it basketball wise we needed a starter and he can do that for us. I don't see why it is so hard to see that.

Zeller was just as good as a rookie last year, maybe slightly worst. Zeller was a better rebounder, passer, and scored at about the same rate. If Zeller didn't stink up his first 3-4 months he would've been significantly WAY WAY WAY better. Messy Marv is a bum and you UNC fans know it. Lol

Zeller shot terribly from the field last year and Williams shot well. You are wrong about the two and just won't look at the real stats to see it. Zeller didn't hit a three last year while Williams hit at 36%. Despite shooting from closer in Zeller shot worse from the field as a whole too. Williams is the better player right now.

Also I hate doing this but it is driving me crazy so I have to mention it. It is slightly worse not worst. You can be the worst player or you get worse. Sorry but every time I read it I got confused by what you were trying to say.

[catch20two]

But Zeller wasn't better than him last season. Williams provides what Clifford wanted at PF which was shooting while Zeller doesn't.

I get you hate Williams but if you look at it basketball wise we needed a starter and he can do that for us. I don't see why it is so hard to see that.

Zeller was just as good as a rookie last year, maybe slightly worst. Zeller was a better rebounder, passer, and scored at about the same rate. If Zeller didn't stink up his first 3-4 months he would've been significantly WAY WAY WAY better. Messy Marv is a bum and you UNC fans know it. Lol

Zeller shot terribly from the field last year and Williams shot well. You are wrong about the two and just won't look at the real stats to see it. Zeller didn't hit a three last year while Williams hit at 36%. Despite shooting from closer in Zeller shot worse from the field as a whole too. Williams is the better player right now.

Also I hate doing this but it is driving me crazy so I have to mention it. It is slightly worse not worst. You can be the worst player or you get worse. Sorry but every time I read it I got confused by what you were trying to say.

They both shot 43 and 44 percent respectively. Just Messy shot 3s while playing horrid defense. He make Zeller look like Asik on defense how bad he was tryna defend bigs.

[HornetJail]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

[JDR720]

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[JDR720]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

[BeesWax]

Zeller was just as good as a rookie last year, maybe slightly worst. Zeller was a better rebounder, passer, and scored at about the same rate. If Zeller didn't stink up his first 3-4 months he would've been significantly WAY WAY WAY better. Messy Marv is a bum and you UNC fans know it. Lol

Zeller shot terribly from the field last year and Williams shot well. You are wrong about the two and just won't look at the real stats to see it. Zeller didn't hit a three last year while Williams hit at 36%. Despite shooting from closer in Zeller shot worse from the field as a whole too. Williams is the better player right now.

Also I hate doing this but it is driving me crazy so I have to mention it. It is slightly worse not worst. You can be the worst player or you get worse. Sorry but every time I read it I got confused by what you were trying to say.

They both shot 43 and 44 percent respectively. Just Messy shot 3s while playing horrid defense. He make Zeller look like Asik on defense how bad he was tryna defend bigs.

Well that is just wrong. Williams did shoot threes which count into the percentages which means when you look same shots Cody shot 42% on his 2pts while Williams shot 50% on his. Zeller and Williams are pretty much the same on defense.

Williams advanced stats look much better than Cody's. Not saying Cody won't be better but he isn't now.

[catch20two]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

What's decent?

[BeesWax]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

What's decent?

12 ppg and over 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.

Shot on high percentages from FT and solid 36% from 3.

[mrknowitall215]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

What's decent?

I wouldn't consider his 42 games of starting 'decent' at all

11.9 points, 4.0 assist, and 2 rebounds while having a -7.7 net rating on the floor

It's a very mediocre signing at this point. I hope Cho is planning on bringing in another serviceable backup PG to challenge Brian Roberts for that immediate reserve role because he's far from proven

[HornetJail]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

What's decent?

The Pelicans fell off a cliff when Roberts had to start in place of Holiday.

Also looking a B-R, he scored more against Charlotte than any other team last season. He averaged 16.5ppg against Charlotte and Kemba only averaged 13.5ppg (10-30 shooting) vs NO.

[JDR720]

If Kemba gets hurt this season, and Lance isn't sign, we will not win games with Kemba out of the lineup with Roberts as his primary backup. Roberts isn't going to be a capable starting PG. Someone like Nelson, Williams, or Sessions would at least be able hold their own as a spot starter.

he started 42 games for the Pelicans and did decent

What's decent?

3 month span he averaged 12pts 3.8ast on 44% shooting in 27mpg