Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III

Post #41 » by **fatlever** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:11 pm

i counted 10 "you knows" in that interview.

Clifford is really bad about "you know" as well.

mrknowitall215 · Post #42 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:59 pm

I do not agree with the minute restriction for Kemba. Might as well just make him the backup PG at this rate, because at what point will it be suitable to have Kemba replace Mo Williams and return to starting duties? the moment he has better production in half the minutes?

Post #43 » by **JDR720** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:05 pm

He'll be the starter in a few games, mo hasn't been so hot recently. just on a minute restriction like the others who had injuries for long periods of time.

Post #44 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:08 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:I do not agree with the minute restriction for Kemba. Might as well just make him the backup PG at this rate, because at what point will it be suitable to have Kemba replace Mo Williams and return to starting duties? the moment he has better production in half the minutes?

Seriously? You think he should play 35 minutes his first game back from a surgery that took him out six weeks? Plus Kemba was 2-9 last night, he wasn't exactly on fire.

I have zero problem with him getting his legs under him and getting re-acclimated to our team. I'm sure he'll see big minutes and will get reinserted into the starting lineup soon.

mrknowitall215 · Post #45 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:24 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I do not agree with the minute restriction for Kemba. Might as well just make him the backup PG at this rate, because at what point will it be suitable to have Kemba replace Mo Williams and return to starting duties? the moment he has better production in half the minutes?

Seriously? You think he should play 35 minutes his first game back from a surgery that took him out six weeks? Plus Kemba was 2-9 last night, he wasn't exactly on fire.

I have zero problem with him getting his legs under him and getting re-acclimated to our team. I'm sure he'll see big minutes and will get reinserted into the starting lineup soon.

I think he should be playing about 25-30 minutes. I dislike the method, but that's just my opinion

BeesWax · Post #46 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:26 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I do not agree with the minute restriction for Kemba. Might as well just make him the backup PG at this rate, because at what point will it be suitable to have Kemba replace Mo Williams and return to starting duties? the moment he has better production in half the minutes?

Seriously? You think he should play 35 minutes his first game back from a surgery that took him out six weeks? Plus Kemba was 2-9 last night, he wasn't exactly on fire.

I have zero problem with him getting his legs under him and getting re-acclimated to our team. I'm sure he'll see big minutes and will get reinserted into the starting lineup soon.

Agreed. He needs time to test his knee and get back to full confidence in it.

mrknowitall215 · Post #47 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:50 pm

Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Beverley all returned from a same surgery/injury and played at least 25 minutes in their first few games

Post #48 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:19 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Beverley all returned from a same surgery/injury and played at least 25 minutes in their first few games

Beverly never missed that long and neither did RW this season. Last season RW came back right after the all star break so who knows when he was actually cleared to play, he may have been a lot more active before those first games back then Kemba has been able to.

Cliff thought Kemba might not be back until Chicago even after Kemba was cleared. We've been falling apart all season, we can not afford to have him reaggravate that injury. I have zero problem with giving Kemba a game to put live game impact on that knee in limited minutes so we can see how it reacts the next day, especially when he had a shorter return time than was anticipated.

I get the concern and I think in a couple games it could be valid, but I think it's premature at this point. Plus Kemba was not exactly a major help last night anyway.

Post #49 » by **fatlever** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:09 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:I do not agree with the minute restriction for Kemba. Might as well just make him the backup PG at this rate, because at what point will it be suitable to have Kemba replace Mo Williams and return to starting duties? the moment he has better production in half the minutes?

Seriously? You think he should play 35 minutes his first game back from a surgery that took him out six weeks? Plus Kemba was 2-9 last night, he wasn't exactly on fire.

I have zero problem with him getting his legs under him and getting re-acclimated to our team. I'm sure he'll see big minutes and will get reinserted into the starting lineup soon.

I think he should be playing about 25-30 minutes. I dislike the method, but that's just my opinion

Cliff said he would play Kemba more minutes as soon as he built his conditioning back up. You can't expect a guy who hasnt played in 6 weeks to have the lungs or legs to go hard for 30 minutes in his first game back. he had not even practiced with the team until today. relax. he'll be back to 30+ minutes by the west coast trip.

Post #50 » by **fatlever** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:10 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Beverley all returned from a same surgery/injury and played at least 25 minutes in their first few games

maybe they were able to have a full practice at least once before they came back, unlike kemba.

mrknowitall215 · Post #51 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:10 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Beverley all returned from a same surgery/injury and played at least 25 minutes in their first few games

Beverly never missed that long and neither did RW this season. Last season RW came back right after the all star break so who knows when he was actually cleared to play, he may have been a lot more active before those first games back then Kemba has been able to.

Cliff thought Kemba might not be back until Chicago even after Kemba was cleared. We've been falling apart all season, we can not afford to have him reaggravate that injury. I have zero problem with giving Kemba a game to put live game impact on that knee in limited minutes so we can see how it reacts the next day, especially when he had a shorter return time than was anticipated.

I get the concern and I think in a couple games it could be valid, but I think it's premature at this point. Plus Kemba was not exactly a major help last night anyway.

Maybe it is best for Clifford to do it this way since he doesn't have a good feel-o-meter on when, how, and why to substitute players since his rotations are preset

mrknowitall215 · Post #52 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:17 pm

fatlever wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Russell Westbrook, Eric Bledsoe, and Patrick Beverley all returned from a same surgery/injury and played at least 25 minutes in their first few games

maybe they were able to have a full practice at least once before they came back, unlike kemba.

Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't like it. However, I guess we'll see how it goes

Post #53 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:18 pm

And in this case, having preset limited minutes for Kemba is a good idea.

Braggins · Post #54 » by **Braggins** » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:54 am

He could have played a few more minutes last night. I would have put him in for the final 4 minutes. That still puts his minutes for the game at around 20, which is less than what a hobbled and out of shape Al got his first game back. He should at least be able to play 20-25 minutes next game.

mrknowitall215 · Post #55 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:20 pm

See, that's better. Clifford played Kemba 28 minutes last night. I understand that Kemba was returning from a injury but it was a relatively minor knee surgery just to fix a lingering issue. No need to treat him like he's returning from a torn ACL

LamarMatic7 · Post #56 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:40 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:See, that's better. Clifford played Kemba 28 minutes last night. I understand that Kemba was returning from a injury but it was a relatively minor knee surgery just to fix a lingering issue. No need to treat him like he's returning from a torn ACL

I don't think the knee is the issue. His conditioning simply was a concern, that's it. I don't see why you should panic if it will likely end up being him getting 16 and 28 minutes before once again playing 30+.

mrknowitall215 · Post #57 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:51 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:See, that's better. Clifford played Kemba 28 minutes last night. I understand that Kemba was returning from a injury but it was a relatively minor knee surgery just to fix a lingering issue. No need to treat him like he's returning from a torn ACL

I don't think the knee is the issue. His conditioning simply was a concern, that's it. I don't see why you should panic if it will likely end up being him getting 16 and 28 minutes before once again playing 30+.

No panic. I just didn't agree with the minute restriction between 16-18 minutes. I've seen various of players return from that same injury playing at least 25 minutes per contest, and all I was saying is that he should receive 25-30 minutes like he did last night. Clifford playing Kemba 28 minutes like he did last night is what I'm in agreement with. My expectations were for him to play Kemba 25-30 minutes for the next few weeks and he did that last night

Hornet Mania · Post #58 » by **Hornet Mania** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:07 pm

The most important thing is that the Kemba/Mo combo continue to take up 100% of minutes that would otherwise go to Brian Roberts. I'm hesitant to hate on the guy too much because he seems like a professional and I can tell he's giving maximum effort, but the Kemba/Mo rotation is a massive step up. Really enjoying it so far, and as Kemba rounds back into form I expect it to be that much more effective. The first half last night was rough for Kemba, a lot of missed shots and offense without purpose, but by the second half he looked like he was figuring it out. I expect him to be much better in a week or two.

Post #59 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:22 pm

Praying that Kemba rediscovers his shot. I guess I had subconsciously expected that he would get a major lift from the surgery, at least initially before fatigue set in, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I think Mo was falling off just as Kemba came back so I don't really think Kemba's return has impacted Mo as much, but what once seemed like a very appealing PG rotation has been quite disappointing since Kemba returned.

It would be great if we didn't have to figure out how to integrate Kemba back into the rotation and get him back up to speed while we are desperate for wins with the season down the stretch. Injuries suck.

Post #60 » by **JDR720** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:25 pm

Kemba has shot 22% since coming back, I expected him to be bad but not that bad. Dude needs to lock himself in a gym and figure out how to shoot.