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Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III

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Post#41 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Mar 9, 2015 4:05 am

yosemiteben wrote:I always enjoy pointing out that Green is four years older than MKG.


Most definitely. Their overall stats are pretty similar but MKG's contributions on defense don't really show up in the box score, whereas Green averages about 1.5 steals and blocks (each).

But that extra 3.5 years is key, MKG will be a monster by the time he's 25.
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Post#42 » by COURTSIDE 93 » Mon Mar 9, 2015 10:54 am

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yosemiteben wrote:I always enjoy pointing out that Green is four years older than MKG.


Most definitely. Their overall stats are pretty similar but MKG's contributions on defense don't really show up in the box score, whereas Green averages about 1.5 steals and blocks (each).

But that extra 3.5 years is key, MKG will be a monster by the time he's 25.

Yeah. People often forget how young MKG is, compared to Draymond. I prefer MKG in the long term. I hope Draymond goes to Detroit, he has a mean streak, and they can be a formidable defensive pairing. Issue is, they'd be in our conference. :lol:
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#43 » by yosemiteben » Mon Mar 9, 2015 2:37 pm

“When Mo first got traded here I told him, ‘Man, you are going to love MKG,’” Jefferson said post-game. “That’s what makes him so special – that he can guard so many different guys and he rebounds very well.

“He’s the captain of our defense. You can always tell when he’s not playing that it makes a big difference.”

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MKG doing his part to make Charlotte look like an attractive FA destination.
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Post#44 » by Benjamin Linus » Mon Mar 9, 2015 2:46 pm

I haven't watched a ton of Golden State but Draymond is pretty much a big at this point, right? Everytime I see him he's either at the PF or C. I remember in college they kept saying over and over that there was no way he could stay in front of SFs in the NBA, not sure if that still applies but he does look like he's bulked up quite a bit.

I like Draymond and really wanted us to draft him over Jeff Taylor. Draymond + MKG would have been ridiculous defensively.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#45 » by HornetJail » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:46 am

Green's a PF that can play SF if you've got the right offense. Only problem is that the Pistons would run into the same problems they ran into with Josh Smith in terms of fit. He's an infinitely smarter player, but he'd still be forced out on the perimeter more often than you'd like.

I think he'd be a great McRoberts replacement for us- but I don't like the price he's going to command.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#46 » by -Ian- » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:37 am

yosemiteben wrote:
“When Mo first got traded here I told him, ‘Man, you are going to love MKG,’” Jefferson said post-game. “That’s what makes him so special – that he can guard so many different guys and he rebounds very well.

“He’s the captain of our defense. You can always tell when he’s not playing that it makes a big difference.”

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MKG doing his part to make Charlotte look like an attractive FA destination.

I hope more (non-Hornets) players see MKG the same way.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#47 » by JDR720 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:17 pm

Charlotte Hornets coach Steve Clifford made a bold statement recently, saying small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist has the talent to be the best perimeter defender among this generation of NBA players.

Not bold enough apparently. On Thursday Kidd-Gilchrist trumped Clifford’s expectation.

“I want to say ever; not just in the league (now). The best defender this league has seen,” Kidd-Gilchrist told the Observer.

“It’s baby steps. But when it’s all said and done, I want people to say, ‘That guy right there was the dog!’ That’s all I want.”

Except MKG is blossoming. He has begun justifying the No. 2 overall pick the then-Bobcats used to draft him in June of 2012.

He was 19 then, a freshman who helped Kentucky win the national championship. In Lexington all he had to do was defend and run hard to finish in the fast-break.

The mechanics of his jump shot were non-existent. The other elements of his game – intense defense, solid ball-handling and a knack for seeing plays before they happened – were more than enough to let him excel at the high school and college levels.

That wasn’t enough in the NBA. His shot was a wreck: There was a hitch in his delivery, a bizarre side-spin in his release and an understandable reluctance to even attempt a jumper.

A season ago Kidd-Gilchrist took 61 percent of his shots inside the restricted area, that semi-circle close to the rim that helps referees define the difference between a block and a charge.

You want a small forward finishing hard at the rim, but you don’t want that to be his only offensive skill. Kidd-Gilchrist was easy to guard; just back off and dare him to launch an 18-foot jump shot.

So he went to work last summer. Assistant coach Mark Price, one of the best shooters in NBA history, tore everything apart and put it back together. The hitch and sidespin are gone and Kidd-Gilchrist now has a release point that doesn’t come on his descent from the jump.

The result? He makes 43 percent of his mid-range jump shots this season, compared to an embarrassing 28 percent a season ago. That forces defenders to get up on him, making his drives so much more effective.

The numbers show Kidd-Gilchrist’s value this season. When he’s playing, the Hornets are 9.6 points per game better than when he sits or is injured.

Fixing the jump shot made him better. It also made him more confident and assertive. Teammates see a different guy: more of a leader, willing to take over a huddle and convey his considerable knowledge.

Center Al Jefferson recently called Kidd-Gilchrist the Hornets’ defensive captain. Shooting guard Gerald Henderson elaborated.

“He’s not worried so much about his jump shot. So now he’s very comfortable in how he can affect the game at both ends,” Henderson said. “It’s freed him up to be the natural leader that he is; a leader in talking and how he plays.”

That quality was always within him. As a Kentucky freshman Kidd-Gilchrist organized what he called “The Breakfast Club.” He convinced teammates to get up early each fall day to work on voluntary conditioning before the season started. Six months later the Wildcats were one of the most dominant champions in college basketball history.

Kidd-Gilchrist says that was different; he was leading peers, not “grown men” in the NBA. But the difference was also about the initial holes in his NBA game.

“When my shot started falling I just became more confident in myself both on and off the court. I don’t shy away from things anymore,” Kidd-Gilchrist said.

Kidd-Gilchrist can become anxious speaking to a crowd of reporters, which can be confused for being timid. He is anything but. He understands his considerable potential and how well he sizes up plays in real time.

“I just know what is going on – what the next move is,” Kidd-Gilchrist said. “I don’t second-guess myself at all. I’m just getting older and getting a lot better. Better and better and better.”

Teammates like the sound of that.

“He has everybody’s trust and guys all look to him for his energy,” point guard Kemba Walker described. “He’s our defensive anchor. We follow him. As he goes, we all go.”

What does being the defensive anchor entail?

“I don’t like getting scored on. I take it personally,” Kidd-Gilchrist summed up.

“I hate getting scored on and I hate losing basketball games.”

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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#48 » by KembaWalker » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:32 pm

I want someone to make a GB thread with that quote for entertainment purposes. get the popcorn ready
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Post#49 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:45 pm

KembaWalker wrote:I want someone to make a GB thread with that quote for entertainment purposes. get the popcorn ready

Somebody made a thread on this at reddit as well. Knowing the community, I bet the thread will get exposure and almost nothing but positive opinions on MKG.

So if you're in a mood for a more open-minded and less aggressive discussion, here's the link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/2z ... _defender/
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#50 » by Diop » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:57 pm

Now that MKG has given Bonell a nice interview, he might actually become a fan.
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Post#51 » by LamarMatic7 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:58 pm

Sachmo wrote:Now that MKG has given Bonell a nice interview, he might actually become a fan.

I assume that's Beat Reporting 101 in some cases.
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Post#52 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:09 am

Tempted to mention MKG in DPOY discussions in GB, but I'm not in the mood for an all out debate right now
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Post#53 » by fatlever » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:16 am

that interview is the most confidence we've ever heard from MKG. at minimum, i expect MKG to make 2nd team all-defense. it will take a while for the rest of the world to catch up to MKGs defense, so I am not expecting anything more than 2nd team. it takes years to earn that reputation if you aren't a superstar.
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Post#54 » by catch20two » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:17 am

If we were the Knicks then MKG would be a shoe in for DPOY. We've had I think the #1 defense since he's returned from that early injury that kept him out about a month.
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Post#55 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:23 am

catch20two wrote:If we were the Knicks then MKG would be a shoe in for DPOY. We've had I think the #1 defense since he's returned from that early injury that kept him out about a month.

We're #2 since then. #3 since Cody became a starter.
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Post#56 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:26 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:
catch20two wrote:If we were the Knicks then MKG would be a shoe in for DPOY. We've had I think the #1 defense since he's returned from that early injury that kept him out about a month.

We're #2 since then. #3 since Cody became a starter.


Zeller and MKG are going to be a really, really nice defensive pairing for years to come. Exciting to think about.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#57 » by BeesWax » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:30 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:
catch20two wrote:If we were the Knicks then MKG would be a shoe in for DPOY. We've had I think the #1 defense since he's returned from that early injury that kept him out about a month.

We're #2 since then. #3 since Cody became a starter.


Zeller and MKG are going to be a really, really nice defensive pairing for years to come. Exciting to think about.

Cody has come such a long way as a man defender. Last year he was just a help defender and this year he is doing both well. Add to that the time Biz is on the floor and we could have the best defensive back three out there.
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#58 » by JDR720 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:47 am

MKG should make an all-defense team this season, but i would be surprised if he does.

-no gaudy steal/block numbers
-plays for a sub .500 team in the east
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#59 » by fatlever » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:13 am

guys in the running for 1st team defense

Gobert, Green, Leonard, MKG, Allen, M Gasol, Davis, Jordan, Paul - off the top of my head.

Probably something like:
1st team
G: Paul
G: Allen
F: Green
F: Leonard
C: Gobert

2nd team
G:
G:
F: MKG
F: Davis
C: M Gasol

Not sure what other guards are worthy
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Re: Motor Keeps Going: The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread III 

Post#60 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:21 am

fatlever wrote:Not sure what other guards are worthy

Marcus Smart, Wesley Matthews ( :( )
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