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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#41 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:18 pm

TTNN wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BBJt6KvNIcq/

Lin's hand shake with teammates. Looks nice.

He is certainly not having trouble walking or in a boot or anything like that.
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Post#42 » by bws94 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:40 pm

Lin would do better to use his speed strategically rather than try to speed through small spaces. I think his push off from the first step has physically slowed him down due to back and ankle issues, he's not old enough to slow down physically due to age. If you watch the best PGs, they go, hesitate, go, change direction, a lot now use the crossover. Lin has gotten better at using hesitation, but would improve his game a great bit if he could move slower but more laterally while maintaining good ball control. Lin's slips in his dribble limit what could be a very dynamic player. And while he's good at the rim he could be better. He has to find a way not to be spooked by rim protectors and go at them with floaters, reverse layups and high off the backboard layups that he used to do. He can't depend on fouls because he hits the ground all the time and refs just don't always make calls for him that could be made. That said, he draws a lot of fouls anyway. Particularly moving screen fouls and that's great for late quarters and closing games in drawing the opposing teams into penalties.

The other problem is where is Lin's pre-season jump shot? He shot the ball great pre-season but he's slumped pretty much all season shooting jumpers. Long mid-range and 3-ball just isn't there for him consistently enough. The fact that he drives so much to do everything makes him too predictable and he has to rediscover the lob passes and bullet passes from various parts of the court. When he throws those bullet passes, only Hansbrough seems to be able to catch them. Hawes and Cody have problems catching them.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#43 » by leeramundo » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:46 am

bws94 wrote:Lin would do better to use his speed strategically rather than try to speed through small spaces. I think his push off from the first step has physically slowed him down due to back and ankle issues, he's not old enough to slow down physically due to age. If you watch the best PGs, they go, hesitate, go, change direction, a lot now use the crossover. Lin has gotten better at using hesitation, but would improve his game a great bit if he could move slower but more laterally while maintaining good ball control. Lin's slips in his dribble limit what could be a very dynamic player. And while he's good at the rim he could be better. He has to find a way not to be spooked by rim protectors and go at them with floaters, reverse layups and high off the backboard layups that he used to do. He can't depend on fouls because he hits the ground all the time and refs just don't always make calls for him that could be made. That said, he draws a lot of fouls anyway. Particularly moving screen fouls and that's great for late quarters and closing games in drawing the opposing teams into penalties.

The other problem is where is Lin's pre-season jump shot? He shot the ball great pre-season but he's slumped pretty much all season shooting jumpers. Long mid-range and 3-ball just isn't there for him consistently enough. The fact that he drives so much to do everything makes him too predictable and he has to rediscover the lob passes and bullet passes from various parts of the court. When he throws those bullet passes, only Hansbrough seems to be able to catch them. Hawes and Cody have problems catching them.


I think this is a good breakdown of his offensive game so far this season. He's capable of quite a bit more. As far as his jumpshot goes, it's been stated before that he changed his shooting form this past summer, so I'm guessing that'll come around eventually. He's changed it before and his 3pt shooting % has improved every year since he's joined the league, so I'm not particularly worried about that long term.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#44 » by bws94 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:26 am

Does Lin start tomorrow. Nic is out, already determined and Lin is listed as questionable. Hornets don't like to play with both out. Lin may not only play but start and Cliff doesn't know how to play injured guys limited minutes.
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Post#45 » by KM6 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:33 pm

I don't understand why is Lin playing so soon after his recent injury. Batum is taking extra precaution not to get further injuries because he is looking forward to his next contract, well Lin is in the same situation.

People don't care if you are playing through injuries, and when it's all said and done, stat line is the only thing that matters when contract talk starts.

I bet Batum's condition has improved to the point where he could play, but due to the terrible stats he is getting, he decided it's better to sit. Lin's injury is more recent, it looked like he was in a lot of pain when it happened, and it was on the same ankle he had been having problems in the past month. If he doesn't do well, people will not cut him any slack because of the injury.

Lakers is bad because of Kobe's ballhogging and Byron's deliberate tanking. But if Kobe sits due to his shoulder, and their willingness to win due to it being a home game, Byron might actually let them play to their true strength and make it a competitive game. Hornets without Lin, even with Kemba, Batum and MKG looks lost on offense, because there is no true facilitator that controls the rythm and keeps the ball moving, winning against the Lakers might be much harder than most people would think. Hope Lin doesn't do anything stupid and play before he is ready to play.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#46 » by PG13 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:30 pm

KM6 wrote:I don't understand why is Lin playing so soon after his recent injury. Batum is taking extra precaution not to get further injuries because he is looking forward to his next contract, well Lin is in the same situation.

People don't care if you are playing through injuries, and when it's all said and done, stat line is the only thing that matters when contract talk starts.

I bet Batum's condition has improved to the point where he could play, but due to the terrible stats he is getting, he decided it's better to sit. Lin's injury is more recent, it looked like he was in a lot of pain when it happened, and it was on the same ankle he had been having problems in the past month. If he doesn't do well, people will not cut him any slack because of the injury.

Lakers is bad because of Kobe's ballhogging and Byron's deliberate tanking. But if Kobe sits due to his shoulder, and their willingness to win due to it being a home game, Byron might actually let them play to their true strength and make it a competitive game. Hornets without Lin, even with Kemba, Batum and MKG looks lost on offense, because there is no true facilitator that controls the rythm and keeps the ball moving, winning against the Lakers might be much harder than most people would think. Hope Lin doesn't do anything stupid and play before he is ready to play.


Where did that come from? From what I understand, Batum has never fully recovered from an injury described as "gruesome". So far I haven't seen anything that confirms Lin will play tonight. In fact I don't think he's playing. And I've never read anywhere that Lin says he wants to play with a busted ankle.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#47 » by tonman » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:32 pm

Spraining an ankle is different than spraining a toe. As long as it's not broken its a matter of pain and swelling. The fact that Lin has been moving around and putting weight on it is a good sign. Folks say don't.come.back until healed. Well landing on someone's foot whether bad ankle.or not.is.going to hurt. It's whether he can play full speed and cut. Not whether he will land on someone's foot again. Can't.control that.
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Post#48 » by bws94 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:46 pm

Lin plays when Batum can't and the other way round. It's just been Lin has been able to play not as terribly on his injury than Batum has looked on his. And the nature of the injury is different. Lin isn't seen as throwaway, the squad needs at least one of them on the floor with Kemba and only if both absolutely can't go, then both will be out. So far, I don't think that has happened. One or the other have played in all games.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#49 » by bws94 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:47 pm

tonman wrote:Spraining an ankle is different than spraining a toe. As long as it's not broken its a matter of pain and swelling. The fact that Lin has been moving around and putting weight on it is a good sign. Folks say don't.come.back until healed. Well landing on someone's foot whether bad ankle.or not.is.going to hurt. It's whether he can play full speed and cut. Not whether he will land on someone's foot again. Can't.control that.



Yes, but if he plays I don't expect Lin to play near the full speed he's had this season which hasn't really been full speed for a long time. I think they just hope Lin can play well enough to fill the position and hopefully not look as hampered as Batum did in his last game. I'm not so sure he can but if he plays, we'll see.
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Post#50 » by KM6 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:56 pm

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KM6 wrote:I don't understand why is Lin playing so soon after his recent injury. Batum is taking extra precaution not to get further injuries because he is looking forward to his next contract, well Lin is in the same situation.

People don't care if you are playing through injuries, and when it's all said and done, stat line is the only thing that matters when contract talk starts.

I bet Batum's condition has improved to the point where he could play, but due to the terrible stats he is getting, he decided it's better to sit. Lin's injury is more recent, it looked like he was in a lot of pain when it happened, and it was on the same ankle he had been having problems in the past month. If he doesn't do well, people will not cut him any slack because of the injury.

Lakers is bad because of Kobe's ballhogging and Byron's deliberate tanking. But if Kobe sits due to his shoulder, and their willingness to win due to it being a home game, Byron might actually let them play to their true strength and make it a competitive game. Hornets without Lin, even with Kemba, Batum and MKG looks lost on offense, because there is no true facilitator that controls the rythm and keeps the ball moving, winning against the Lakers might be much harder than most people would think. Hope Lin doesn't do anything stupid and play before he is ready to play.


Where did that come from? From what I understand, Batum has never fully recovered from an injury described as "gruesome". So far I haven't seen anything that confirms Lin will play tonight. In fact I don't think he's playing. And I've never read anywhere that Lin says he wants to play with a busted ankle.


Batum listed as "OUT" for the Lakers game after playing just last game; Lin listed as "Questionable" while suffered ankle sprain a few days ago and did not play last game, and also listed as probably starter. I think there is at least 50% chance he is going to start today.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#51 » by TinmanZBoy » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:09 pm

PG13 wrote:
KM6 wrote:I don't understand why is Lin playing so soon after his recent injury. Batum is taking extra precaution not to get further injuries because he is looking forward to his next contract, well Lin is in the same situation.

People don't care if you are playing through injuries, and when it's all said and done, stat line is the only thing that matters when contract talk starts.

I bet Batum's condition has improved to the point where he could play, but due to the terrible stats he is getting, he decided it's better to sit. Lin's injury is more recent, it looked like he was in a lot of pain when it happened, and it was on the same ankle he had been having problems in the past month. If he doesn't do well, people will not cut him any slack because of the injury.

Lakers is bad because of Kobe's ballhogging and Byron's deliberate tanking. But if Kobe sits due to his shoulder, and their willingness to win due to it being a home game, Byron might actually let them play to their true strength and make it a competitive game. Hornets without Lin, even with Kemba, Batum and MKG looks lost on offense, because there is no true facilitator that controls the rythm and keeps the ball moving, winning against the Lakers might be much harder than most people would think. Hope Lin doesn't do anything stupid and play before he is ready to play.


Where did that come from? From what I understand, Batum has never fully recovered from an injury described as "gruesome". So far I haven't seen anything that confirms Lin will play tonight. In fact I don't think he's playing. And I've never read anywhere that Lin says he wants to play with a busted ankle.


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Post#52 » by TTNN » Mon Feb 1, 2016 12:26 am

bws94 wrote:Lin plays when Batum can't and the other way round. It's just been Lin has been able to play not as terribly on his injury than Batum has looked on his. And the nature of the injury is different. Lin isn't seen as throwaway, the squad needs at least one of them on the floor with Kemba and only if both absolutely can't go, then both will be out. So far, I don't think that has happened. One or the other have played in all games.


It does feel like between Batum and Lin, the less injured has to play. Batum came back from his injury after Lin's first ankle twist, and Lin got to come back a little early when Batum aggravated his sprained toe. Unfortunately this is the second cycle of it.

I'm questioning Hornet's training staff, how did they release these players before they are really in the state that they could come back. I kind of feel if Batum was not really rushed back the second time, or Lin was rushed back early, they should be fully recovered by now.

Well, today's game is a bit tricky as Lakers is a winnable game. But I really hope coach would give player enough recover time to get them fully healthy.
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Post#53 » by TTNN » Mon Feb 1, 2016 12:35 am

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PG13 wrote:
KM6 wrote:I don't understand why is Lin playing so soon after his recent injury. Batum is taking extra precaution not to get further injuries because he is looking forward to his next contract, well Lin is in the same situation.

People don't care if you are playing through injuries, and when it's all said and done, stat line is the only thing that matters when contract talk starts.

I bet Batum's condition has improved to the point where he could play, but due to the terrible stats he is getting, he decided it's better to sit. Lin's injury is more recent, it looked like he was in a lot of pain when it happened, and it was on the same ankle he had been having problems in the past month. If he doesn't do well, people will not cut him any slack because of the injury.

Lakers is bad because of Kobe's ballhogging and Byron's deliberate tanking. But if Kobe sits due to his shoulder, and their willingness to win due to it being a home game, Byron might actually let them play to their true strength and make it a competitive game. Hornets without Lin, even with Kemba, Batum and MKG looks lost on offense, because there is no true facilitator that controls the rythm and keeps the ball moving, winning against the Lakers might be much harder than most people would think. Hope Lin doesn't do anything stupid and play before he is ready to play.


Where did that come from? From what I understand, Batum has never fully recovered from an injury described as "gruesome". So far I haven't seen anything that confirms Lin will play tonight. In fact I don't think he's playing. And I've never read anywhere that Lin says he wants to play with a busted ankle.


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I'd think PG13 was asking where those ideas comes from. I'd think whatever KM6 said is his opinion, I wouldn't think one person could represent a forum's opinion, just like I wouldn't take your opinion as realgm/hornets board's opinion. There are plenty people on that board don't think the same way with KM6, and I won't be surprise some people here thought just like KM6 though.
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Post#54 » by TTNN » Mon Feb 1, 2016 12:42 am

Jeremy Lin's hair. LOL


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Post#55 » by bws94 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 12:55 am

TTNN wrote:
bws94 wrote:Lin plays when Batum can't and the other way round. It's just been Lin has been able to play not as terribly on his injury than Batum has looked on his. And the nature of the injury is different. Lin isn't seen as throwaway, the squad needs at least one of them on the floor with Kemba and only if both absolutely can't go, then both will be out. So far, I don't think that has happened. One or the other have played in all games.


It does feel like between Batum and Lin, the less injured has to play. Batum came back from his injury after Lin's first ankle twist, and Lin got to come back a little early when Batum aggravated his sprained toe. Unfortunately this is the second cycle of it.

I'm questioning Hornet's training staff, how did they release these players before they are really in the state that they could come back. I kind of feel if Batum was not really rushed back the second time, or Lin was rushed back early, they should be fully recovered by now.

Well, today's game is a bit tricky as Lakers is a winnable game. But I really hope coach would give player enough recover time to get them fully healthy.



Just too many injuries. The only guy that seems to have the right amount of time to heal is Lamb. Batum and Lin get patched up and then go if they can, probably to a very low standard of healing their injuries. And, yeah, just so many injuries makes you wonder aloud just what's going on with their training, medical staff, and conditioning.
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Post#56 » by Vae Victus » Mon Feb 1, 2016 4:00 am

Funny story, im from LA and my dad and a bunch of his rich taiwanese friends were all CRUSHED after Lin's injury. Seeing how bad it was they KNEW that he should sit out til after the ASB. A bunch more of em are coming from Taiwan and they bought 2 suites at a hefty price just to see him play (last year the LA contingent went to as many games as they could, buying season tickets or box suits however they could). I had to laugh and shake my head at how they blew all that cash and Lin wont be able to suit up.

I just come home from my own game and lo and behold Lin is playing. Hmm i wonder how many of em didnt even bother to go thinking that he wasnt gonna play. My dad went and he hasnt replied yet to my text/phone, so i guess i'll wait and see.

A pity he's not shooting well, damnit he needs to put on a show so my dad and his college chums get their moneys worth :P

Ok that and i want him to kick sand into the Lakers faces for disrespecting him too.
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Post#57 » by bws94 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 4:51 am

I hope MKG and Lin get to play together a lot. Even though Lin is on the 2nd team, Lin and MKG in transition could be big for the team.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Thread 3 

Post#58 » by ChokeFasncists » Tue Feb 2, 2016 10:24 pm

A few days of rest, that's nice. But then there comes a 3 games in 4 nights stretch. Hope his ankle is healed. If not, just gotta wait till the all star week.
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Post#59 » by kinein » Thu Feb 4, 2016 2:29 am

The monkey is off Lin's back finally.
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Post#60 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Feb 4, 2016 2:30 am

Future's, made of, virtu-al linsanity
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