Who should the Hornets draft at #2?
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Based on immediate value (and potential return), i would think the objective choice is Henderson. He has alpha mentality at a critical position, and many franchise are waiting their 'pgotf'/lead guard. Even if he had not immediate efficiency, trade wise many franchise would compete to land him (and most likely overpay in such an hypothesis).
Not gonna pretend Miller's return would be mediocre, but the problem is that he would be kept for years (less chance he would be traded unless he was busting/bad fit or whatever).
Anyway, i never hided that i was on the trade for Zion bandwaggon. Mostly because he can probably added with other nice piece (and no has some nice forwards, not just BI).
Not gonna pretend Miller's return would be mediocre, but the problem is that he would be kept for years (less chance he would be traded unless he was busting/bad fit or whatever).
Anyway, i never hided that i was on the trade for Zion bandwaggon. Mostly because he can probably added with other nice piece (and no has some nice forwards, not just BI).
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To be totally honest the whole Zion saga from Twitter last week in my opinion is a nonissue. That girl seems absolutely insane and is just mad he cheated on her. Not condoning that, but let's be real I can't imagine how many professional athletes cheat on their spouses. He's hardly the first to do it, not like she's accusing him of assault or anything.
Zion is absolutely dominant when he plays. The chances you get anyone at #2 that is as good as he is is probably lower than 1%. The moment he arrived he'd be the best player we've ever had, and LaMelo and Zion could get really really interesting. If you bring him in you're obviously hoping you can load manage him, he gives you maybe 50-60 games in the regular season and ready to go in the playoffs.
I just legitimately think he's such a specimen he's always going to be prone to injury. I'm not even sure if he's out of shape or anything, I think his combination of size, power, and athleticism I just simply do not think any human body is built to endure. His game is predicated on that second jump which we've truly never seen before but he explodes with such power and lands with such force it's got to be tough on his lower body.
I'm at the point, if we swap #2 in a package for Zion I don't think I could blame our front office for doing it. But in typical Hornets fashion I fully anticipate he never plays more than 100 games for us.
As for the poll, I voted Scoot. Think I'm like 65/35 in terms of the Scoot/Miller debate, will not be complaining with either though.
Zion is absolutely dominant when he plays. The chances you get anyone at #2 that is as good as he is is probably lower than 1%. The moment he arrived he'd be the best player we've ever had, and LaMelo and Zion could get really really interesting. If you bring him in you're obviously hoping you can load manage him, he gives you maybe 50-60 games in the regular season and ready to go in the playoffs.
I just legitimately think he's such a specimen he's always going to be prone to injury. I'm not even sure if he's out of shape or anything, I think his combination of size, power, and athleticism I just simply do not think any human body is built to endure. His game is predicated on that second jump which we've truly never seen before but he explodes with such power and lands with such force it's got to be tough on his lower body.
I'm at the point, if we swap #2 in a package for Zion I don't think I could blame our front office for doing it. But in typical Hornets fashion I fully anticipate he never plays more than 100 games for us.
As for the poll, I voted Scoot. Think I'm like 65/35 in terms of the Scoot/Miller debate, will not be complaining with either though.
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driveandkick wrote:Zion is absolutely dominant when he plays. The chances you get anyone at #2 that is as good as he is is probably lower than 1%
Then shouldn't it concern you if they'd be willing to trade him?

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JustBuzzin wrote:UNCNYC wrote:I just heard some rumor *a light one* that zion could be traded to Charlotte. If that happens I will eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich with vinegar instead of milk. We attract the most ratchet of rachet of ratchet in Charlotte, and not only that, he aint worth a 2035 2nd rounder. *2nd rounder protected*
The problem with Zion is him staying on the court.
Couple that with a huge contract and what appears to be a lack of quality decision making/self control. And he's not that high an iq player as say a or tatum or g freak etc....
I wouldn't mind him that much maybe nah, but just hopefully we don't send too much for another hayward type
UPDATED `10-22-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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I wonder if the fact that Scoot is benefitting in the voting due to being the FAVORITE #1 or #2 pick heading into this season. I am rating this outcome as pretty much even due to that factor
UPDATED `10-22-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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If we pick at 2 (as in we don’t trade the pick) we better take Scoot. It would actually be dumb if we didn’t because whoever is at 3 will take Scoot if he’s on the board and that’s pretty obvious through all the draft talk.
If we are 100% all in on Brandon Miller than we better get on the phone with Portland and tell them we are going to take Scoot unless they offer up an asset.
We might be the only team in the NBA who will take Miller over Scoot at 2. And I have a feeling there are teams that would pass on Miller at 3.
Knowing our team they’re gonna mess this up and actually take Miller at 2 and if that happens Mitch should be fired. If we select Miller at 3 then it makes more sense.
If we are 100% all in on Brandon Miller than we better get on the phone with Portland and tell them we are going to take Scoot unless they offer up an asset.
We might be the only team in the NBA who will take Miller over Scoot at 2. And I have a feeling there are teams that would pass on Miller at 3.
Knowing our team they’re gonna mess this up and actually take Miller at 2 and if that happens Mitch should be fired. If we select Miller at 3 then it makes more sense.
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Lwcasu wrote:If we pick at 2 (as in we don’t trade the pick) we better take Scoot. It would actually be dumb if we didn’t because whoever is at 3 will take Scoot if he’s on the board and that’s pretty obvious through all the draft talk.
If we are 100% all in on Brandon Miller than we better get on the phone with Portland and tell them we are going to take Scoot unless they offer up an asset.
We might be the only team in the NBA who will take Miller over Scoot at 2. And I have a feeling there are teams that would pass on Miller at 3.
Knowing our team they’re gonna mess this up and actually take Miller at 2 and if that happens Mitch should be fired. If we select Miller at 3 then it makes more sense.
You do realize Miller and Scoot are on the same level talent wise right?
There is no wrong choice in this situation.
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Zion
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
UPDATED `10-22-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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UNCNYC wrote:Zion
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
8. When he plays he's one of the most dominate players in the league. Generational talent!
9. New change of scenery, new mindset, more focused.
10. Charlotte is in the championship conversation with a healthy new improved Zion.
I think Zion is worth the gamble.
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JustBuzzin wrote:UNCNYC wrote:Zion
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
8. When he plays he's one of the most dominate players in the league. Generational talent!
9. New change of scenery, new mindset, more focused.
10. Charlotte is in the championship conversation with a healthy new improved Zion.
I think Zion is worth the gamble.
11. Chicken Supremes Combo with a Large Sweet Tea and and a Boberry biscuit
12. Cookout Big Double Tray with Hushpuppies, Chicken Quesadilla and Banana Pudding Milkshake
13. Mama's home cookin' (you know it ain't chicken breast and broccoli)
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SWedd523 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:UNCNYC wrote:Zion
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
8. When he plays he's one of the most dominate players in the league. Generational talent!
9. New change of scenery, new mindset, more focused.
10. Charlotte is in the championship conversation with a healthy new improved Zion.
I think Zion is worth the gamble.
11. Chicken Supremes Combo with a Large Sweet Tea and and a Boberry biscuit
12. Cookout Big Double Tray with Hushpuppies, Chicken Quesadilla and Banana Pudding Milkshake
13. Mama's home cookin' (you know it ain't chicken breast and broccoli)
14.
Unfortunately all that grubbin sounds like it goes with the zion talk lol
UPDATED `10-22-2025
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
These are who I want with our picks in order
THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen
UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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Not gonna lie this was pretty damn funny lmaoSWedd523 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:UNCNYC wrote:Zion
1. Injury prone
2. Weight issues
3. Huge contract
4. Possible bad choice in mating partner(ssssss)(xxx) (especially with all thats going on with him already)
5. Undersized
6. Has no jumper
7. Lack of a real b ball iq
Only a matter of time before coaches scheme on stopping/slowing down a player who lacks so much and plays sparringly.
Writings on the wall imo. I don't mind trading for him just hope it's VERY minimal and we get him around playoff time if anything.
8. When he plays he's one of the most dominate players in the league. Generational talent!
9. New change of scenery, new mindset, more focused.
10. Charlotte is in the championship conversation with a healthy new improved Zion.
I think Zion is worth the gamble.
11. Chicken Supremes Combo with a Large Sweet Tea and and a Boberry biscuit
12. Cookout Big Double Tray with Hushpuppies, Chicken Quesadilla and Banana Pudding Milkshake
13. Mama's home cookin' (you know it ain't chicken breast and broccoli)
14.
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JustBuzzin wrote:Lwcasu wrote:If we pick at 2 (as in we don’t trade the pick) we better take Scoot. It would actually be dumb if we didn’t because whoever is at 3 will take Scoot if he’s on the board and that’s pretty obvious through all the draft talk.
If we are 100% all in on Brandon Miller than we better get on the phone with Portland and tell them we are going to take Scoot unless they offer up an asset.
We might be the only team in the NBA who will take Miller over Scoot at 2. And I have a feeling there are teams that would pass on Miller at 3.
Knowing our team they’re gonna mess this up and actually take Miller at 2 and if that happens Mitch should be fired. If we select Miller at 3 then it makes more sense.
You do realize Miller and Scoot are on the same level talent wise right?
There is no wrong choice in this situation.
That’s subjective in regards to talent level and for the sake of the argument I’ll give you that point. That doesn’t mean Scoot doesn’t have more value. It’s apparent that anyone trading up is trying to trade for Scoot, they’re not trying to trade for Miller. So even if they both have equal talent and potential, one has more value. I don’t think there is a single scenario where we trade down with Portland and we don’t get Brandon Miller. So why pick him at number 2? Any GM worth the money should be able to at least convince Portland we are leaning Scoot (even if we are not), but we’d be willing to take Miller for extra assets.
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Im just going off the reports. They all seem to have us taking Miller. Like you said if Scoot is so much better why do the mocks have us taking Miller?Lwcasu wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Lwcasu wrote:If we pick at 2 (as in we don’t trade the pick) we better take Scoot. It would actually be dumb if we didn’t because whoever is at 3 will take Scoot if he’s on the board and that’s pretty obvious through all the draft talk.
If we are 100% all in on Brandon Miller than we better get on the phone with Portland and tell them we are going to take Scoot unless they offer up an asset.
We might be the only team in the NBA who will take Miller over Scoot at 2. And I have a feeling there are teams that would pass on Miller at 3.
Knowing our team they’re gonna mess this up and actually take Miller at 2 and if that happens Mitch should be fired. If we select Miller at 3 then it makes more sense.
You do realize Miller and Scoot are on the same level talent wise right?
There is no wrong choice in this situation.
That’s subjective in regards to talent level and for the sake of the argument I’ll give you that point. That doesn’t mean Scoot doesn’t have more value. It’s apparent that anyone trading up is trying to trade for Scoot, they’re not trying to trade for Miller. So even if they both have equal talent and potential, one has more value. I don’t think there is a single scenario where we trade down with Portland and we don’t get Brandon Miller. So why pick him at number 2? Any GM worth the money should be able to at least convince Portland we are leaning Scoot (even if we are not), but we’d be willing to take Miller for extra assets.
Also as far as Scoot and his impact how will he reach his full potential sharing ball handling duties with Melo?
It's not like he is great off the ball. His shot is his big weakness right now. Without the ball he will be a black hole on offense unless he starts cutting to the rim without the ball.
Im not down on Scoot, I will be happy if he is the pick. I just think Miller will reach his full potential on this team unlike Scoot.
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No denying that Swedd is from the Carolinas, he knows what's up.
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LofJ wrote:No denying that Swedd is from the Carolinas, he knows what's up.
Nearest Bojangles and Cookout are about two hours away.
Every time I travel for work I make sure to connect through ATL or CLT so I can hit Bojangles
I was just in Mississippi for a month and had a Cookout right down the road from the hotel. Had to up my cardio to offset that Zion "Mass Gainer" diet

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SWedd523 wrote:LofJ wrote:No denying that Swedd is from the Carolinas, he knows what's up.
Nearest Bojangles and Cookout are about two hours away.
Every time I travel for work I make sure to connect through ATL or CLT so I can hit Bojangles
I was just in Mississippi for a month and had a Cookout right down the road from the hotel. Had to up my cardio to offset that Zion "Mass Gainer" diet
The nearest Bojangles from me is about a 4 hour drive and it just opened. So I swing by the Bojangles whenever I fly through CLT or ATL as well. Since I don't get to eat it often I eat without an ounce of regret or remorse, It's amazing.
And yeah the food in Louisiana is amazing, but it ain't that different in the Carolinas. Zion isn't suddenly going to get a hold of his diet if he's traded here, that's just wishful thinking.
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SWedd523 wrote:LofJ wrote:No denying that Swedd is from the Carolinas, he knows what's up.
Nearest Bojangles and Cookout are about two hours away.
Every time I travel for work I make sure to connect through ATL or CLT so I can hit Bojangles
I was just in Mississippi for a month and had a Cookout right down the road from the hotel. Had to up my cardio to offset that Zion "Mass Gainer" diet
Bojangles is a tourist spot now.
I don't go there for anything other than the sweets. Every once in a blue moon I might get the supreme dinner.
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Bojangles is awful. There's one every 10 blocks here in Asheville. Cookout however ..
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