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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#41 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:04 am

JMAC3 wrote:Yeah another guy capable of scoring 20 ppg is worthless on a night like this. Instead we will let Galinari put us to sleep

Anyone is capable of scoring 20. The point you guys keep missing among others is Oubre shouldn't be one of your main scorers, unless you have an Embiid level player who can make up for Oubre when he doesn't score. Like in their last game, Oubre scored 3 and Embiid almost scored 50.

Oubre is the weirdest hill to die on.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#42 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:05 am

countryboi wrote:this team is too talented to be this consistently ass, it makes you not want to watch

It's tiresome being a losing franchise, but I don't think the team available is particularly talented relative to the rest of the league.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#43 » by GoBobs » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:05 am

Looking like a Steven Clifford, worst in the league again, offense. In the era of teams scoring 120 per game we struggle to put of 40 at the half.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#44 » by KingCat » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:07 am

Still think our biggest issue is it feels like 29 out of 30 teams can easily out gun us from 3
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#45 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:07 am

Benjamin Linus wrote:They just have too much talent for us

That's a bit scary considering they have next to no talent.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#46 » by KingCat » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:08 am

We could be playing the 2012 Bobcats, but games where Mark gets into early foul trouble js a certified L.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#47 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:09 am

GoBobs wrote:Looking like a Steven Clifford, worst in the league again, offense. In the era of teams scoring 120 per game we struggle to put of 40 at the half.

Team is obviously shorthanded currently and I'm no Clifford defender, but the offense for the season so far is above league average. Defense has been quite poor.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#48 » by Hornet Mania » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:10 am

So...fire Cliff?

Because that's a huge part of our problem.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#49 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:10 am

Our defense and FT shooting has been terrible too.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#50 » by Benjamin Linus » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:10 am

If Clifford coached a team like the Wizards they’d probably go like 2-80
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#51 » by countryboi » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:10 am

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countryboi wrote:this team is too talented to be this consistently ass, it makes you not want to watch

It's tiresome being a losing franchise, but I don't think the team available is particularly talented relative to the rest of the league.


but we are talented relative to the wizards and yet here we are
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#52 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:12 am

Besides Melo, we're shooting around 33%. Made two 3's. And missed half our FT's.

This is basically the clogged toilet offense 2.0.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#53 » by Hornet Mania » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:12 am

I didn't expect the team to be particularly good this season, but this year has been an embarrassment thus far. Extremely soft schedule and we looked like amateurs for long stretches.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#54 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:14 am

KingCat wrote:Still think our biggest issue is it feels like 29 out of 30 teams can easily out gun us from 3

The team absolutely takes the least 3s in the NBA, they also miss most of them so far, so there's that.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#55 » by JMAC3 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:15 am

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JMAC3 wrote:Yeah another guy capable of scoring 20 ppg is worthless on a night like this. Instead we will let Galinari put us to sleep

Anyone is capable of scoring 20. The point you guys keep missing among others is Oubre shouldn't be one of your main scorers, unless you have an Embiid level player who can make up for Oubre when he doesn't score. Like in their last game, Oubre scored 3 and Embiid almost scored 50.

Oubre is the weirdest hill to die on.


McGowens can score 20? Theo can score 20? Richards can score 20? Thor can score 20?

Maybe combined LOL.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#56 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:17 am

We're the worst 3pt shooting team in the league, in 3's per game made, taken and percentage (ok, not really percentage but just 1% off).

We're somehow below average in rebounding too, despite having an excellent rebounding PG and two good rebounding centers.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#57 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:18 am

Hornet Mania wrote:So...fire Cliff?

Because that's a huge part of our problem.

Ideally he never should've been rehashed to begin with, but I wouldn't hold my breath expecting him to be fired this season in favor of an outside option. Promoting from within, I could see that happening. Who is next in line? Bruce Kreutzer? Rex Walters? Tyrone Corbin has some HC experience...
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#58 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:19 am

Larry Brown came in and gave Cliff some notes is what it probably is...
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#59 » by JDR720 » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:22 am

JMAC3 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Yeah another guy capable of scoring 20 ppg is worthless on a night like this. Instead we will let Galinari put us to sleep

Anyone is capable of scoring 20. The point you guys keep missing among others is Oubre shouldn't be one of your main scorers, unless you have an Embiid level player who can make up for Oubre when he doesn't score. Like in their last game, Oubre scored 3 and Embiid almost scored 50.

Oubre is the weirdest hill to die on.


McGowens can score 20? Theo can score 20? Richards can score 20? Thor can score 20?

Maybe combined LOL.

All of them, besides Thor, have scored at least 20 before. Maledon actually scored a career high 33 his rookie year to go along with several other 20+ point games.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Wizards 11/8 7PM EST 

Post#60 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Nov 9, 2023 1:23 am

JMAC3 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Yeah another guy capable of scoring 20 ppg is worthless on a night like this. Instead we will let Galinari put us to sleep

Anyone is capable of scoring 20. The point you guys keep missing among others is Oubre shouldn't be one of your main scorers, unless you have an Embiid level player who can make up for Oubre when he doesn't score. Like in their last game, Oubre scored 3 and Embiid almost scored 50.

Oubre is the weirdest hill to die on.


McGowens can score 20? Theo can score 20? Richards can score 20? Thor can score 20?

Maybe combined LOL.


3 of those 4 have scored over 20, so, yes? They COULD score 20, would the team win if they did it? Probably not. Would the team be a consistent winner with an Oubre style 20ppg scorer? Is that the argument from you? That we are a Kelly Oubre away from being a consistent winner subbing out one player at a time that is seeing court time tonight?

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