Barbeque Chicken: The Cody Zeller Thread - Pt 2

HornetJail · Post #401 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:49 am

yosemiteben wrote:Was perusing Grantland and came across this description from Zach Lowe back in December of 2013 of what it looked like Cody was thinking when he was in the game:

"7. The overwhelmed Cody Zeller

Zeller’s a rookie learning the speed of a new level, so some growing pains are understandable. But he’s shooting 34 percent with an ugly turnover rate, and looking completely overwhelmed every time he catches the ball at the elbow — his sweet spot, should he desire a long NBA career. “OK, I have the ball. Omigod, omigod, omigod, I have the ball! Should I shoot? I dunno, that guy is pretty close to me. Can I dribble? Am I allowed to dribble? Maybe I should pass to that guy in the corner, the Swedish one or something, and, oh, shoot, they figured out I was looking over there. OK, gotta do something! Here goes!” (At this moment, Zeller typically takes one or two hard lefty dribbles toward the rim and then falls over.)"

It's pretty true, he had a really hard time adjusting.

Spot on and that consumed the first 3-4 months of his nba career :lol:

Hope to see him vastly improved this season. I hope to see either him or Vonleh starting by the end of the year.

TheKingofSting · Post #402 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:18 am

In that case it would probably be Cody.

Post #403 » by **fatlever** » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:56 am

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2204 ... witter.com

Liver_Pooty · Post #404 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:34 am

fatlever wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2204645-sophomore-season-could-hold-key-to-career-relevance-for-hornet-cody-zeller?utm_campaign=tsiphone&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com

Writer implies that MKG is coming off the bench, so I stopped reading.

From what I read though, Zeller does have to have a solid year and build off of his second half. The man gets a ton of hate on here, but I think hes going to be pretty damn solid this season.

Edit: Plus the writer called Stephenson Stevenson. I hope our posters don't do that, which they haven't thus far. Calling Byron Mullens; Mullins, was annoying.

Eoghan · Post #405 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:49 am

Kody Zoeller is going to turn heads this year.

Post #406 » by **JDR720** » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:50 pm

http://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-opti ... er-9/19/14

mrknowitall215 · Post #407 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:29 pm

I know I ragged on Cody Zeller a lot last season because I really wanted to see Nerlens Noel teamed up with Kemba, Biyombo, & MKG instead for my own entertainment purposes and the Hornets' future but I must say that I think Zeller could be a solid contributor for this team if he find his niche. Zeller need to abandon trying to be a stretch 4 and just focus on finding his spots on the offensive end to attack the rim, grabbing rebounds, and playing solid to above average positional defense like he's capable of

Zeller could very well be the contributing X-factor in the Hornets being a legit contender in the East this upcoming season and I'm trying to become very optimistic about his development, because he doesn't have to be a star or even live up to his top 5 draft position to be a key player in this team's success

Eoghan · Post #408 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:34 am

I disagree a little bit. If Codeine Zelda ever becomes anything in the NBA, it will be as a stretch 4. He's got to keep trying, it's just if his shot ain't falling he has to find other ways to contribute like you said, which is what he did a much better job of post-All-Star break.

LofJ · Post #409 » by **LofJ** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:59 pm

I'm hoping Cody will be our Nick Collison, but slightly better.

vorbis · Post #410 » by **vorbis** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:55 pm

JDR720 wrote:http://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-optional-team-workouts-cody-zeller-9/19/14

gah. hornets.com video guys are excruciatingly bad. please please hornets get a competent video interviewer. one who knows how to speak clearly, ask minimally interesting questions (and miraculously avoiding 'talk about..' questions would be nice), KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE **** MIC, etc. matt was bad enough but this other guy is somehow worse. crystal clear that neither of them had any media training whatsoever. it's honestly embarrassing. i tried to watch so many of these player interviews, catching up on the offseason and looking ahead, but the interviewers are so bad i could barely sit through even a couple.

catch20two · Post #411 » by **catch20two** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:08 pm

Cody said he's extended his range out to the 3 point line?! I can't wait to see this.

Post #412 » by **fatlever** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:32 pm

vorbis wrote:
JDR720 wrote:http://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-optional-team-workouts-cody-zeller-9/19/14

gah. hornets.com video guys are excruciatingly bad. please please hornets get a competent video interviewer. one who knows how to speak clearly, ask minimally interesting questions (and miraculously avoiding 'talk about..' questions would be nice), KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE **** MIC, etc. matt was bad enough but this other guy is somehow worse. crystal clear that neither of them had any media training whatsoever. it's honestly embarrassing. i tried to watch so many of these player interviews, catching up on the offseason and looking ahead, but the interviewers are so bad i could barely sit through even a couple.

i normally dont watch the videos on hornets.com because they are completely useless 99% of the time. i had not seen this new guy yet, but i just watched the cody video to see what you guys were talking about. holy hell.

Post #413 » by **JDR720** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:33 pm

fatlever wrote:
vorbis wrote:
JDR720 wrote:http://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-optional-team-workouts-cody-zeller-9/19/14

gah. hornets.com video guys are excruciatingly bad. please please hornets get a competent video interviewer. one who knows how to speak clearly, ask minimally interesting questions (and miraculously avoiding 'talk about..' questions would be nice), KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE **** MIC, etc. matt was bad enough but this other guy is somehow worse. crystal clear that neither of them had any media training whatsoever. it's honestly embarrassing. i tried to watch so many of these player interviews, catching up on the offseason and looking ahead, but the interviewers are so bad i could barely sit through even a couple.

i normally dont watch the videos on hornets.com because they are completely useless 99% of the time. i had not seen this new guy yet, but i just watched the cody video to see what you guys were talking about. holy hell.

I guess talk about how you feel about the new guy?

vorbis · Post #414 » by **vorbis** » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:59 pm

JDR720 wrote:
fatlever wrote:
vorbis wrote:
gah. hornets.com video guys are excruciatingly bad. please please hornets get a competent video interviewer. one who knows how to speak clearly, ask minimally interesting questions (and miraculously avoiding 'talk about..' questions would be nice), KNOW HOW TO HOLD THE **** MIC, etc. matt was bad enough but this other guy is somehow worse. crystal clear that neither of them had any media training whatsoever. it's honestly embarrassing. i tried to watch so many of these player interviews, catching up on the offseason and looking ahead, but the interviewers are so bad i could barely sit through even a couple.

i normally dont watch the videos on hornets.com because they are completely useless 99% of the time. i had not seen this new guy yet, but i just watched the cody video to see what you guys were talking about. holy hell.

I guess talk about how you feel about the new guy?

with matt rochinski and the new guy it would sound like like "I GUESS TAlk a.....*murmur indecipherable because he's already moved the mic in front of cody's mouth*"

mrknowitall215 · Post #415 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 3:19 pm

Who fill the void at power forward?

The loss of McRoberts hurts, more than a lot of people may realize. He was a uniquely skilled power forward capable of spacing the floor and making plays, and a versatile defender who was a big part of the Bobcats’ success on that end last season. His departure leaves a hole next to Big Al in the frontcourt, with three leading candidates to pick up those minutes.

2013’s No. 4 overall pick, Cody Zeller, is the likeliest to start, at least early on. Zeller overcame an awful start to his rookie season and put together a solid final stretch. Per Basketball-Reference.com, before the All-Star break, Zeller was averaging 5.0 points and 4.0 rebounds per game while shooting 38.0 percent from the field; after the break, those numbers jumped to 7.7 points and 4.8 rebounds with a 50.7 percent shooting clip. Both sample sizes are much too small to draw any definitive conclusions, but Zeller seemed to figure things out as the season progressed. He still has a ways to go defensively, as most rookie big men do, but the signs are encouraging, and he should see the lion’s share of minutes at power forward when the season kicks off.

Williams has played small forward for most of his career but will likely see most of his minutes at the four position this season. He’s a become solid outside shooter over the last two seasons in Utah, but he isn’t nearly the passer McRoberts is. At the start of the season, Clifford may feel more comfortable starting a veteran over one of the two young guys competing for minutes, but Williams is probably best suited as a reserve at this point.

Vonleh is a total question mark. He fell to No. 9 in the draft because of a lack of polish, and that was before undergoing surgery last month for a sports hernia that will limit him for most of training camp and possibly the first part of the season. Back injuries are scary regardless, but it’s especially not ideal for a player going into his rookie season. The injury only decreases Vonleh’s chance of finding consistent minutes and solidifies him as a long-term project, even if the Hornets envision him as the long-term starting power forward.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... e-hornets/

HornetJail · Post #416 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 3:25 pm

Call me crazy, but I see Vonleh as the starter for the beginning of the 2015-16 season. That's right.

Post #417 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:05 pm

2013’s No. 4 overall pick, Cody Zeller, is the likeliest to start, at least early on.

Whoever wrote that is apparently not following the Hornets too closely, given the fact that the article was published today and Clifford already said Marvin is starting.

mrknowitall215 · Post #418 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
2013’s No. 4 overall pick, Cody Zeller, is the likeliest to start, at least early on.

Whoever wrote that is apparently not following the Hornets too closely, given the fact that the article was published today and Clifford already said Marvin is starting.

I agreed with the article for the most part, especially this excerpt...

At the start of the season, Clifford may feel more comfortable starting a veteran over one of the two young guys competing for minutes, but Williams is probably best suited as a reserve at this point.

Post #419 » by **JDR720** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:30 pm

I expect Zeller to take over the starting job eventually this season, especially if he can hit jumpshots...which is basically the only reason Marvin is starting

Post #420 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:39 pm

JDR720 wrote:I expect Zeller to take over the starting job eventually this season, especially if he can hit jumpshots...which is basically the only reason Marvin is starting

Cody was a worse jump shooter than MKG last season, so that's a pretty tall task. Here is Cody's shot chart from last season: