Little Swaggy: The Kelly Oubre Jr Thread

[JDR720]

I don't think it's that they can't contribute, but that playing here makes people think they aren't as good as they actually are.

We saw it with Kemba. People think Melo sucks. PJ didn't get an offer. Dennis (despite his breakout) got the minimum.

Hardly any player leaves here and gets a pay raise or bigger role immediately after.

[JMAC3]

Batum and Diaw got gigs straight away as well

Yeah because like most of our players their new team gives them a defined role and they play well within it.
It is not a shock Batum looks better as a 3D guy making the min vs us trying to use him as a 2nd ball handler and 15 ppg scorer.

I expect the same of Oubre, when he isn't asked to shoot 17 shots per game his efficiency will go up this year.
Him being a 10 shot guy as a 6th man and averaging 12 ppg off the bench is easily worth the min.

[Rich4114]

I would have thought that Malik Monk and Caleb Martin would have put that to bed.

Monk, despite a pretty solid last season here, only got a vet minimum with the lakers... that's kind of proving my point

Right but Monk proved to be worth it, which was my point. I figured after Monk and Martin that no one would think former Hornets can't contribute.

I was sad to see Monk go, I feel like he hit his stride his last season here and finally matured. I did not see Caleb Martin being as good as he was even if it was because of the Heat's environmental surroundings. There's no doubt Kelly can score, but his low basketball IQ and the fact that we are expecting Cody, Miller and Miles all back and playing serious wing minutes are likely why there was no interest. It was really nice when he was performing efficiently in the 6th man role, but once his shot stopped falling around Feb of that last JB season, that was the end of that. Kelly is what he's always been, a low basketball IQ chucker who can sometimes get hot. Although to his credit, he's improved driving to the rim and scoring inside now too.

[Rich4114]

Batum and Diaw got gigs straight away as well

Yeah because like most of our players their new team gives them a defined role and they play well within it.
It is not a shock Batum looks better as a 3D guy making the min vs us trying to use him as a 2nd ball handler and 15 ppg scorer.

I expect the same of Oubre, when he isn't asked to shoot 17 shots per game his efficiency will go up this year.
Him being a 10 shot guy as a 6th man and averaging 12 ppg off the bench is easily worth the min.

That's a good point, one thing this franchise has been horrible at is putting guys into roles they're not best suited for. Hopefully that starts to change but it might not until we clean the front office out.

[SWedd523]

Kelly is going into his 9th year and 5th team in the NBA.

This isn't a case like Monk being a young **** off a rookie deal who figures out how to be a contributing player.

Kelly has almost a decade of evidence showing that he doesn't contribute to winning basketball. There's a reason why he's perhaps the only 20ppg guy in history to sign a vet min deal.

They'll be okay without him.

[Liver_Pooty]

Oubre will never be a 10 shot guy unless his minutes get cut down drastically. Even if he plays only 17 minutes a game the dude may very well get 10 shots off because he damn sure isn't going to pass the ball. Like, ever.

[SWedd523]

I can't wait to see the bad body language displayed by Embiid and Harden when Oubre is on the floor just ripping 30 footers

[JMAC3]

Oubre will never be a 10 shot guy unless his minutes get cut down drastically. Even if he plays only 17 minutes a game the dude may very well get 10 shots off because he damn sure isn't going to pass the ball. Like, ever.

He started 40/48 games played 32 mins and shot 17 times on a bottom 5 team with no offensive threats and you want to call him a chucker lol. What was he supposed to do? Let Nick Richards, Dennis Smith and Jalen McDaniels take over?

He was 3rd on FGA per game, that includes LaMelo who barely played (14 games together) so 34 games of the year Oubre was the teams 2nd offensive option lol.

Let's totally ignore the year before where he came off bench 63 games and took 12 shots per game in 26 mins and was the 5th option. Which is the role he will play on Sixers, coming off the bench as 5th option behind Embiid, Harden, Maxey and Harris.

The level of disconnect when examining performance and role on this board is awful. It happened with Batum...

Imagine a guy like Derrick White having to be a #1 option on a team, he probably can't do it. Would be inefficient. Our board would then say he sucks and is a bad NBA player. Same with Cody Martin, if he was healthy last year he probably would have been awful as a guy we were forcing touches to and giving 15 shots per game I bet everyone would be out on him too at this point.

[Liver_Pooty]

Oubre will never be a 10 shot guy unless his minutes get cut down drastically. Even if he plays only 17 minutes a game the dude may very well get 10 shots off because he damn sure isn't going to pass the ball. Like, ever.

He started 40/48 games played 32 mins and shot 17 times on a bottom 5 team with no offensive threats and you want to call him a chucker lol. What was he supposed to do? Let Nick Richards, Dennis Smith and Jalen McDaniels take over?

He was 3rd on FGA per game, that includes LaMelo who barely played (14 games together) so 34 games of the year Oubre was the teams 2nd offensive option lol.

Let's totally ignore the year before where he came off bench 63 games and took 12 shots per game in 26 mins and was the 5th option. Which is the role he will play on Sixers, coming off the bench as 5th option behind Embiid, Harden, Maxey and Harris.

The level of disconnect when examining performance and role on this board is awful. It happened with Batum...

Imagine a guy like Derrick White having to be a #1 option on a team, he probably can't do it. Would be inefficient. Our board would then say he sucks and is a bad NBA player. Same with Cody Martin, if he was healthy last year he probably would have been awful as a guy we were forcing touches to and giving 15 shots per game I bet everyone would be out on him too at this point.

Has he ever not been a chucker at any point in his career? Has he ever been efficient?

[JMAC3]

Has he ever not been a chucker at any point in his career? Has he ever been efficient?

15 ppg on 54.2% EFG his first year with Hornets is efficient, so yes.

I wonder if it would make sense to give him that role moving forward? I guess we will see this year for Philly. Get ready for the All Around the NBA thread to be filled with...

"Everyone, does so much better when they leave Charlotte... yada yada... Oubre is shooting 37% from three and the media is talking about what a good pickup he was...."

[Liver_Pooty]

Has he ever not been a chucker at any point in his career? Has he ever been efficient?

15 ppg on 54.2% EFG his first year with Hornets is efficient, so yes.

I wonder if it would make sense to give him that role moving forward? I guess we will see this year for Philly. Get ready for the All Around the NBA thread to be filled with...

"Everyone, does so much better when they leave Charlotte... yada yada... Oubre is shooting 37% from three and the media is talking about what a good pickup he was...."

Maybe. I don't think he's a bad player by any means. I also don't think he will be missed.

[JMAC3]

Has he ever not been a chucker at any point in his career? Has he ever been efficient?

15 ppg on 54.2% EFG his first year with Hornets is efficient, so yes.

I wonder if it would make sense to give him that role moving forward? I guess we will see this year for Philly. Get ready for the All Around the NBA thread to be filled with...

"Everyone, does so much better when they leave Charlotte... yada yada... Oubre is shooting 37% from three and the media is talking about what a good pickup he was...."

Maybe. I don't think he's a bad player by any means. I also don't think he will be missed.

Anytime we see Bouknight, McGowens or Leaky Black on the floor this year we will see lol.

How quickly people forget guys get hurt and miss games, it's not like it doesn't happen every year lol

[Liver_Pooty]

15 ppg on 54.2% EFG his first year with Hornets is efficient, so yes.

I wonder if it would make sense to give him that role moving forward? I guess we will see this year for Philly. Get ready for the All Around the NBA thread to be filled with...

"Everyone, does so much better when they leave Charlotte... yada yada... Oubre is shooting 37% from three and the media is talking about what a good pickup he was...."

Maybe. I don't think he's a bad player by any means. I also don't think he will be missed.

Anytime we see Bouknight, McGowens or Leaky Black on the floor this year we will see lol.

How quickly people forget guys get hurt and miss games, it's not like it doesn't happen every year lol

Lol if they're on the floor hopefully its for 7 minutes or less.

[JMAC3]

Maybe. I don't think he's a bad player by any means. I also don't think he will be missed.

Anytime we see Bouknight, McGowens or Leaky Black on the floor this year we will see lol.

How quickly people forget guys get hurt and miss games, it's not like it doesn't happen every year lol

Lol if they're on the floor hopefully its for 7 minutes or less.

huh? McGowens played 17 mpg, Bouk 15 mpg, Svi 22 mpg.

Guys don't play 5 mpg in the NBA. Anyways though, hopefully we stay healthy and if we do trade Rozier or Hayward we get a guy who can actually play back and not some guy we take to dump salary. Otherwise I worry about our depth.

[HornetJail]

if any of those guys has to see the floor for noteworthy time this season it's already over lol

Said it before, and I'll say it again- we have somewhere between 7 players who belong in an NBA rotation, with maybe another 1-2 breaking into that group depending on how you feel about Richards, Martin, and Thor.

I feel pretty confident about this team if all of LaMelo, Bridges, Hayward, PJ, Mark, Miller, and Rozier are healthy. I worry about our depth without any one of those guys, and think we completely fall off a cliff if we're missing any two or more of them. I personally would've brought back Oubre on a 1-year deal for this reason alone. Just would've kept him on a tighter leash.

[JMAC3]

if any of those guys has to see the floor for noteworthy time this season it's already over lol

Said it before, and I'll say it again- we have somewhere between 7 players who belong in an NBA rotation, with maybe another 1-2 breaking into that group depending on how you feel about Richards, Martin, and Thor.

I feel pretty confident about this team if all of LaMelo, Bridges, Hayward, PJ, Mark, Miller, and Rozier are healthy. I worry about our depth without any one of those guys, and think we completely fall off a cliff if we're missing any two or more of them. I personally would've brought back Oubre on a 1-year deal for this reason alone. Just would've kept him on a tighter leash.

Exactly. Here is the first 10 games, if Martin or Hayward aren't full go that means McGowens/Bouk probably getting mins from day 1.

LaMelo- Frank
Rozier- Martin
Hayward- Miller
PJ- Thor
Mark- Nick

Even once Miles comes back, any injury 2-4 would have opened up minutes for Oubre.

[JDR720]

Got hit by a car. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38876432

Hopefully he'll be ok.

Philadelphia 76ers guard Kelly Oubre Jr. was struck by a motor vehicle in Center City, Philadelphia and taken to a local hospital in stable condition on Saturday night, a Sixers spokesman told ESPN.

Representatives from the team, including 76ers President Daryl Morey, are with Oubre, at the hospital. He is expected to miss significant time due to his injuries, but those aren't considered to be season-ending, the spokesman said. Local authorities are investigating the incident.

The Sixers said Oubre was walking near his residence in downtown Philadelphia when he was struck. No additional information about his injuries or about the accident was immediately available.

Oubre, 27, joined the Sixers from the Charlotte Hornets on a one-year deal in September. He is averaging 16.3 points and shooting 50 percent from the field this season for Philadelphia, and has been playing as well as he ever has in his nine seasons in the NBA for the Sixers this season, including starting after P.J. Tucker left in the James Harden trade.

The 76ers are home Sunday and play Indiana.

[yosemiteben]

Wow that's awful. Get healthy soon Tsunami Papi.

[fatlever]

get well kelly

[countryboi]

Im glad he is ok, getting hit by a 2000 pound machine can go so much worse.