Bobcats Picks Discussion (#9, #19, #39)

[Diop]

Hmmm, I think Kemba beats DJ in a foot face from end to end with or without the ball easily. He also looks to be faster laterally as well.

Did you read Swedd's earlier post?

Go to DX and look at the combine results. Sort by position played (PG) and draft position (Top 15).

DJ has the 6th best agility they've tested. Kemba is 17th.
DJ has the 3rd best sprint they've tested. Kemba is 13th.

Kemba does have an inch and a half on DJ in height, and an inch in standing reach, but they have identical wingspans.

You're seriously underrating DJ in terms of quickness/speed. Go back and watch him in college, he was a blur too.

[Diop]

Also. . . . .

Hmmm, I think Kemba beats DJ in a foot face

[Badd_Intentions]

I think DJ is one of if not the best players on our team no doubt. Another thing you have to consider is he has absolutely NO ONE to help make him look good. I don't think DJ is a franchise type PG by any stretch. The PG's I consider franchise PG's are guys like Rose, Paul, D. Williams, etc. DJ isn't the type that you can build around, but I think with the right cast of characters he can be really really good. He can shoot if left open, but other than that he isn't a dynamic scorer. He doesn't have the uncanny court vision of a CP3(but then again who does). He is a really good guard that is getting better. I'm not sure I would call him an impact player in the league, but until we build a roster with some scoring threats we won't know his true potential.

[Badd_Intentions]

Hmmm, I think Kemba beats DJ in a foot face from end to end with or without the ball easily. He also looks to be faster laterally as well. It will take Kemba at least 2-3 years to become a solid all around PG in the NBA if whatever team drafts him is dedicated to playing him at the PG spot full time. I think he has the potential to be pretty good on the break with his speed either getting to the rack or opening things up for others. If the team plans on playing more uptempo and the guys we have now can't get up the court then they'll end up being phased out with guys that can.

Again, they test that at the combine. DJ had the 28th fastest 3/4 sprint they've tested. I lost count on Kemba around 90 or so.


People are either really underestimating DJ's speed, or overreacting to the Kemba hype

I'm going by what i've seen in actual games, not in the tests, Kemba just seems quicker on the floor. Maybe when I see him on the floor with other NBA players it will be different.

[Marvel]

^Then you must be watching his games in fast motion, because i've seen both play and DJ seems faster than Kemba to me.

[Rich4114]

So now that we're into this debate on the speed of each guy, if DJ is the fastest guard in the NBA then why the hell does he suck so bad compared to other PG's?

Last time I checked, nobody became a star of any sort based solely on speed. Nobody told that to Al Davis when he drafted what's his face about a round too early in the NFL draft. Congrats, you got a WR who is faster than anyone else, too bad he can't catch the ball or get open.

[Rich4114]

I'll take swagger/talent/scoring any day over a speedy PG who can't have much impact.

[J-Kidd32]

I would trade the 9th pick for Paul Millsap imo...you guys need a PF something serious and he can be a good 17/8 garbage man at worst..

[captaincrunk]

So now that we're into this debate on the speed of each guy, if DJ is the fastest guard in the NBA then why the hell does he suck so bad compared to other PG's?

Last time I checked, nobody became a star of any sort based solely on speed. Nobody told that to Al Davis when he drafted what's his face about a round too early in the NFL draft. Congrats, you got a WR who is faster than anyone else, too bad he can't catch the ball or get open.

But DJ doesn't "suck so bad". He's also an excellent shooter and a very good ballhandler. He improved not just at the start but also throughout the season and has shown he is tough, playing through injuries.

[Fred Williamson]

I would trade the 9th pick for Paul Millsap imo...you guys need a PF something serious and he can be a good 17/8 garbage man at worst..

hell yes I would do this. I would even package Tyrus or Diaw + the 9th pick if they include Okur.

[Elden Payton]

I wouldn't, we need to stockpile assets at this time. I would prefer Leonard or Burks over Millsap at this point in time.

We could do it for the Lulz though!!!!!!

[doc.end]

So now that we're into this debate on the speed of each guy, if DJ is the fastest guard in the NBA then why the hell does he suck so bad compared to other PG's?

Last time I checked, nobody became a star of any sort based solely on speed. Nobody told that to Al Davis when he drafted what's his face about a round too early in the NFL draft. Congrats, you got a WR who is faster than anyone else, too bad he can't catch the ball or get open.

You suck at valuation of players, that's the easiest answer. No, we can't take Felton back.

[J-Kidd32]

I wouldn't, we need to stockpile assets at this time. I would prefer Leonard or Burks over Millsap at this point in time.

We could do it for the Lulz though!!!!!!

I dont think Burks gets past the Pistons at 8..and Leonard is good but not great at anything..and with 19 you guys could go after Jordan Hamilton who can play the 3....just my thoughts

[Bassman]

Well combine the Bobcat's statements and comments about what they are looking for (athleticism and shooting, all things equal a PF is not our preferrence), Marshon Brooks has to be a major target. If he is killing it in workouts (as is being reported) and rising up the draft, do not be surprised if we take him at 9. I do not want Kemba (do not need a DJ clone) and I don't want Burks (poor shooter). Give me Brooks and one of the quality 3's or Brooks and a 5 (Vucivic) and I'm a happy Cats fan.

[Fred Williamson]

First time I read about this Brooks kid and also watched some highlight reels on youtube. Damn, this kid reminds me of a young Kobe. I see most mock drafts have him as a mid lottery pick, but would it be stupid if we take him with the 9th pick, in case Burks is off the board? I heard he can also play the 3, so he's even a better fit than Burks IMO.

[BigSlam]

I would trade the 9th pick for Paul Millsap imo...you guys need a PF something serious and he can be a good 17/8 garbage man at worst..

That is an awful suggestion IMO. Not only is Milsap not worth the 9th overall pick but PF is probably our most loaded position.

[J-Kidd32]

So who do you think you will get at Pick 9 that will be better at the PF spot than him? Please dont say Morris...or you think you will sign someone in FA?

[BigSlam]

We aren't in need of a PF - unless it's a significant upgrade - so we wont be looking for one at #9.

Why do you think we would be?

[ohara]

Going by what Silas said, needing 3 pt shooting, I am starting to think Burks in not in our plans at #9. He is a slasher who does not have great 3 pt range. Very much like Hendo right now, but Hendo is getting better. I dont know of any other 3 pt shooters who warrant consideration at #9. Makes me wonder if the FO is not really looking for a Big at #9 or a PG, and then going with the best 3 pt threat at #19. With Brooks and Hamilton possibly on the table at #19? IDK, but it just seems that based on what he said, Burks is not exactly what he wants at #9.

[J-Kidd32]

IDK maybe because you have no low post scoring presence and Thomas is not playing up to par and Diaw is and always will be a backup (Landry in FA?)..Jordan Hamilton at 19 would not be bad either..