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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#421 » by dmutombo321 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 12:28 pm

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Mystical Apples wrote:I don't see hypocrisy. No multi-national organization can pick every battle in every location every time. Silver's decision was likely a combination core values + furthering a Brand with a clientele that is predominantly urban and thus overwhelmingly approves of the decision.

Not to mention shaping the All-Star narrative of a caring organization vs. a potential PR cluster, up to and including player interviews focusing on everything but the product. Or worse, a player(s) boycotting the game cause North Carolina.


Disagree. This argument is the same "morality pass" that other liberal corporations use when doing business with China but evoking social judgements in the U.S. Google accepts repressive limitations on the Internet and ignores China's hideous actions that make these N.C. Issues pale in comparison. It is hipocracy, and highlights the limits of principals/character for the sake of greed.


The NBA is indeed, as mystical apples points out, a business, and as such, their decision to move the all-star game from Charlotte is motivated solely by business considerations. However, the take away should be that Silver is putting his finger to the wind and riding the wave of popular leftist public sentiment because he thinks doing so will score brownie points with the broader NBA customer base and thus be financially beneficial for the NBA by eliciting positive PR.

Having said this, Silver would have been wiser to have instead assumed an apolitical stance and not gotten into the fray.

Since he has done just the opposite however, he has been called on his bull **** by ppl pointing out the NBA ties to certain countries abroad, and Bass is right that this is textbook hypocrisy.

The fact that Silver is still proceeding with plans for games in China, a country guilty of egregious human rights violations truly is hypocritical and betrays the fact that he is not a virtuous social crusader, as he would have everyone believe, but rather is a business man solely interested in making the league money.

Since the NBA is a business, I'd fine with that if the NBA would be honest that their moves are calculatedly motivated for maximum financial gain.

But silver and the NBA insult the intelligence of astute fans when they instead feign concern for human rights by pulling the ASG from NC over silly controversy about bathroom use while at the same time proceeding to do business in China.

Both the Charlotte ordinance and hb2 were passed in 2016. Hb2 reversed the Charlotte ordinance 7066 with respect to private businesses being able to decide their own bathroom policies. This incidentally was already the status quo when the NBA originally awarded the ASG to Charlotte in June 2015. Funny how this didn't seem to bother the NBA or offend their sensibilities then....
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Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#422 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:44 pm


Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.

I think it gets resolved by the courts in time. May be appealed, but there will be an injunction in the mean time and I think by that point the writing will be on the wall and the league will choose Charlotte regardless.
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#423 » by Eoghan » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:57 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:
Both the Charlotte ordinance and hb2 were passed in 2016. Hb2 reversed the Charlotte ordinance 7066 with respect to private businesses being able to decide their own bathroom policies. This incidentally was already the status quo when the NBA originally awarded the ASG to Charlotte in June 2015. Funny how this didn't seem to bother the NBA or offend their sensibilities then....

Whole post is the dog's bollocks but this in particular:

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Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#424 » by fatlever » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:03 pm

yosemiteben wrote:

Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#425 » by yosemiteben » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:30 pm

fatlever wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:

Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?

I am.
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#426 » by fatlever » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:34 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?

I am.


I had no idea.
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#427 » by mrfixit » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:30 am

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?

I am.




Very cool.

If you don't mind me asking, what type of law do you practice and do you enjoy that type of law? I'm about to start my final year of law school at Wake and I'm still trying to discover what type of law I want to practice.
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Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#428 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:32 am

PM me and I'll fill you in.
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Post#429 » by mrfixit » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:14 am

yosemiteben wrote:PM me and I'll fill you in.



I hate to post in this thread again, but I am having issues. The site is saying that I am not authorized to compose PMs because my account is too new and I need to participate more. If you sent me a PM, maybe I could respond to it.
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Post#430 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:05 am

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?

I am.


Nice. I could use some free legal advice.
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Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#431 » by Diop » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:08 am

mrfixit wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:PM me and I'll fill you in.



I hate to post in this thread again, but I am having issues. The site is saying that I am not authorized to compose PMs because my account is too new and I need to participate more. If you sent me a PM, maybe I could respond to it.

yeah you cant pm until you've been around a while.
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#432 » by Diop » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:08 am

yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Kinda crazy seeing one of my former law school professors all over that article.



Are you a lawyer?

I am.

you don't mind if I boo do ya?
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#433 » by Diop » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:15 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Are you a lawyer?

I am.


Nice. I could use some free legal advice.

or advice on how to safely dispose of the body?
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#434 » by Eoghan » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:50 am

mrfixit wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Are you a lawyer?

I am.




Very cool.

If you don't mind me asking, what type of law do you practice and do you enjoy that type of law? I'm about to start my final year of law school at Wake and I'm still trying to discover what type of law I want to practice.

Bird law.
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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#435 » by Flip Murray » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:53 am

Eoghan wrote:
mrfixit wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I am.




Very cool.

If you don't mind me asking, what type of law do you practice and do you enjoy that type of law? I'm about to start my final year of law school at Wake and I'm still trying to discover what type of law I want to practice.

Bird law.


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Post#436 » by JohnStockton » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:49 am

Diop wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Are you a lawyer?

I am.

you don't mind if I boo do ya?


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Re: Re: Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#437 » by EwingSweatsALot » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:56 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Are you a lawyer?

I am.


Nice. I could use some free legal advice.


It's either what is deemed "legal" torture for sports writers. Or what's deemed "legal" kidnapping of a basketball announcer.
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Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#438 » by fatlever » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:15 pm

Businesses reel from NBA’s decision to pull 2017 All-Star Game

NBA pulled the 2017 All-Star Game from Charlotte

Other sports events, shows could be in doubt

Hotels, other local businesses are looking at losses

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article91375582.html#storylink=cpy

This article might be the most depressing so far. Not sure how anyone could read this and not think it possible for the Hornets to start looking to move the franchise out of NC in the next few years if changes aren't made quickly.

NBA decision means HB2 likely to dominate governor’s race

Issue also could impact next year’s mayoral, City Council races

Gov. Pat McCrory said Friday the NBA’s decision was “total (politically correct) BS”

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article91338447.html#storylink=cpy


NBA makes clear: We’re falling behind, North Carolina
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article91257822.html
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Re: 2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte 

Post#439 » by ace88 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:07 am

Disgraceful move by Adam Silver. I may boycott going to any NBA games because of this as will some of my friends.

Let's get the facts straight. Charlotte passed an LGBT law that they had no right to pass. City and counties cannot override NC state law in certain areas.

The transgender bathroom thing, nearly 2/3 of school parents oppose it. It is an attack on women's rights, parental rights, and privacy rights. Just have a separate bathroom or a family one for transgenders.

As far as discrimination, there in no evidence LGBT are being discriminated against in NC. In the US, gays have above average jobs, incomes, and housing. LGBT fairness and non-discrimination laws are dangerous because they use them to try to sue Mom and Pop small business owners who don't want to participate in gay marriage. No one should be forced to violate their right of conscience but the LGBT want a totalitarian society where they use government force to not only make you accept gay marriage, but celebrate it, or be punished. They are also using laws like this to try to sue or take tax exempt status away from religious schools, as well as lock Christians out of the mental health professions. Until the LGBT people will give Christians the same rights of conscience that Bryan Adams, Bruce Springsteen, and Adam Silver have, they are giant hypocrites. You can't have it both ways. They could get an LGBT protection passed if they made exceptions for gay marriage, but they won't.

As for Silver, sports is a distraction from politics. I don't want the two intertwined. The NBA is not a political action committee, they are a sports business. Bad, bad move.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#440 » by ace88 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:10 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Kill the law please. Thanks.


The law is no different now than it was when Silver first put the game in Charlotte. He is giant scumbag and hypocrite who moved NBA games to China, with terrible humans rights records.

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