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Post#421 » by Roll Tide 09 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:46 pm

Draft Brandon Miller and then trade Washington and Hayward.

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Post#422 » by bravor » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:09 pm

1st or very first step before anything else : check out all the off the court issues of any draftee long enough before drafting anybody not a star (ie, below the first two picks, knowing Victor has zero offcourt issues)

B. Miller would make sense at the sf spot to replace Bridges, so the idea would be closer to a S&T of Bridges (with Houston for Eason + filler for instance :roll: ) and an extension for PJ.
I just don't get how people can think there is a possibility that Bridges can change in his bad habits/attitude. The idea should be to get the most value out of him once he's rehab'd in the league, but if i was in charge, no f. way i keep any toxic player, esp. when you land guys that seem to have potential and restore your image (cf Williams).
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Post#423 » by Braggins » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:37 pm

Anthony Black

per 75 possessions: 15.9 points ~ 6.3 rebounds ~ 5.0 assists ~ 2.3 steals ~ 0.8 blocks ~ 3.9 TO ~ 2.9 PF
52.8% 2pt (7.9 attempts/75) ~ 31.0% 3pt (3.5 attempts/75) ~ 71.7% ft (6.2 attempts/75)
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8.8% reb% ~ 21.0% ast% ~ 3.1% stl% ~ 21.4% tov% ~ 21.1% usg%
+2.7 OBPM ~ +3.8 DBPM ~ +6.5 BPM




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Post#424 » by wilson115 » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:49 pm

Braggins wrote:Anthony Black

My worry here is about the FO. Every mock has him going in the mid- to late lottery at best, what happens if our brain trust does end up picking according to our record, can you see Mitch using a pick in the top 5 to take Black?
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Post#425 » by SWedd523 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:14 am

31% from deep borderline not good enough for me
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Post#426 » by JMAC3 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:55 am

I have to admit I know very little about Anthony Black to this point, but he doesn't look to be 6'7'' to me. I am getting more like 6'4'' vibes but could totally be wrong.
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Post#427 » by Braggins » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:45 am

JMAC3 wrote:I have to admit I know very little about Anthony Black to this point, but he doesn't look to be 6'7'' to me. I am getting more like 6'4'' vibes but could totally be wrong.

I honestly dont believe you think hes 6'4" unless you've literally never seen him before and just completely pulled that out of your ass for some reason lol.
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Post#428 » by JMAC3 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:53 am

Braggins wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:I have to admit I know very little about Anthony Black to this point, but he doesn't look to be 6'7'' to me. I am getting more like 6'4'' vibes but could totally be wrong.

I honestly dont believe you think hes 6'4" unless you've literally never seen him before and just completely pulled that out of your ass for some reason lol.


Haha you might be right, but it is just the way he moves on court. Guys that can move at 6-7 in college normally standout a lot more athletically. Especially on dunks when he is hanging from the rim, he looks small in those moments. Maybe he is taller but has a shorter wingspan, something just seems off.

I also have my doubts Nick Smith Jr is 6-5. Maybe I am a hater, but every year guys measure significantly smaller at the combine in shoes or without. A whole lot of prospects this year are 6-7/6-8 range.

Jett Howard is another guy that I am not sure is 6-8.
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Post#429 » by SWedd523 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:23 am

@UNCYC what's the deal with that Nick Smith kid from Arkansas?
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Post#430 » by SWedd523 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:35 am

SWedd523 wrote:@UNCYC what's the deal with that Nick Smith kid from Arkansas?

And why should I not love Brandon Miller?

46/43/82 splits in college is insane.

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Post#431 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:54 pm

So who are we excited about in this year's draft? I know we aren't getting Victor or Scoot, so who after those guys look good to y'all?

I'm not seeing anyone I'm in love with. I want a guy that can defend AND shoot. The Thompson twins can defend, but they're awful shooters. Miller can shoot the nets off the rim, but his athleticism and ability to defend look suspect. I like the guys projected later in the lottery like Anthony Black or Gradey Dick just as much or more than Miller and the Thompsons.
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Post#432 » by Braggins » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:35 pm

wilson115 wrote:
Braggins wrote:Anthony Black

My worry here is about the FO. Every mock has him going in the mid- to late lottery at best, what happens if our brain trust does end up picking according to our record, can you see Mitch using a pick in the top 5 to take Black?

I think they'll draft Amen Thompson or trade the pick, or something else I hate. Brandon Miller is a good obvious pick for any team so I could definitely see them taking him, but ya idk if they are smart enough to consider Black.

I think Black will move up the mocks a bit and wouldn't be surprised if he got top 5 buzz close to the draft, but its hard to say. I think he'll at least pass up some guys that I think will drop a lot.

Nick Smith Jr seems straight up terrible and will surely drop out of the top 10 at least. I'm not sure if the Thompson twins are going to hold up to scrutiny either once people start to look at more than twitter/IG highlights. Its kind of baffling to me that any of them got this much hype to begin with, so maybe I'm wrong though.
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Post#433 » by Braggins » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:52 pm

SWedd523 wrote:31% from deep borderline not good enough for me

Its a legit weakness, but its basically his only one and its not that bad imo. Best way I can describe his 3pt shot is that the first like 70% of his shooting process is inconsistent and clunky, but the last 30% and his release + follow through tend to be pretty good. I think he has a base to build on and he already makes enough that its likely not broken. Another positive sign is that you can tell he understands that he needs to shoot it to keep teams honest when they start to sag off too much and he will take them with confidence and without hesitation when he needs to. I don't get the sense with him that he is likely to develop a mental thing about it.

He reminds me of Giddey in a lot of ways and he was worse shooting coming into the draft and significantly less athletic (bit better passer though). Giddey seems like he maybe made a huge leap already with his 3pt shooting, so maybe Black doesn't replicate that, but I think he has the tools to be really effective without necessarily becoming a 40% deep threat.
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Post#434 » by Braggins » Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:57 pm

LofJ wrote:So who are we excited about in this year's draft? I know we aren't getting Victor or Scoot, so who after those guys look good to y'all?

I'm not seeing anyone I'm in love with. I want a guy that can defend AND shoot. The Thompson twins can defend, but they're awful shooters. Miller can shoot the nets off the rim, but his athleticism and ability to defend look suspect. I like the guys projected later in the lottery like Anthony Black or Gradey Dick just as much or more than Miller and the Thompsons.

Anthony Black, Brandon Miller, and Jarace Walker.

I think the Thompson twins are likely frauds and wouldn't take them in the lottery. Nick Smith Jr sucks. I think Keyonte George can play, but might be a little overrated. Ive only seen one game of GG Jackson, but he seems like a complete wildcard and I don't have a lot of confidence in him. I have guys like Taylor Hendricks and Gradey Dick in my next tier after Miller/Black/Walker.
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#435 » by fatlever » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:13 pm

So, what you guys are telling me is, the 3 guys who are mocked 4 to 6 (the most likely landing spots for the Hornets) are scary red flags to be avoided at all costs, and the guy you like best is mocked late lottery?

Feels like this won't end well.

Can we just trade this pick for like 15 future 2nd round picks?

Top 5 picks...
Okafor, Felton, Ammo, MKG, Zeller, Melo, ???

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Post#436 » by JDR720 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:15 pm

Getting anyone besides Wemb and Scoot would be disappointing. There doesn't seem to be a big difference between #3 and #10.
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Post#437 » by -Ian- » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:36 pm

fatlever wrote:So, what you guys are telling me is, the 3 guys who are mocked 4 to 6 (the most likely landing spots for the Hornets) are scary red flags to be avoided at all costs, and the guy you like best is mocked late lottery?

Feels like this won't end well.

Can we just trade this pick for like 15 future 2nd round picks?

Top 5 picks...
Okafor, Felton, Ammo, MKG, Zeller, Melo, ???

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Nata (former co-host of Locked on Hornets) suggested that if the Hornets draft 3rd or lower, we should deal it for Jabari Smith Jr. A frontcourt of Mark and Jabari looks intriguing to me so I'm not opposed to that idea.
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Post#438 » by LofJ » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:37 pm

JDR720 wrote:Getting anyone besides Wemb and Scoot would be disappointing. There doesn't seem to be a big difference between #3 and #10.


This is where I'm at as well. Although it wouldn't take much convincing for me to take Brandon Miller at 3. I have doubts he'll be a positive player defensively, but a 6'9 guy that can really shoot the ball, has good court awareness, and appears to have a good head on his shoulders isn't the worst bet that the team could make.
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Post#439 » by SWedd523 » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:45 pm

fatlever wrote:So, what you guys are telling me is, the 3 guys who are mocked 4 to 6 (the most likely landing spots for the Hornets) are scary red flags to be avoided at all costs, and the guy you like best is mocked late lottery?

Feels like this won't end well.

Can we just trade this pick for like 15 future 2nd round picks?

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Okafor, Felton, Ammo, MKG, Zeller, Melo, ???

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I've seen Miller anywhere from 3 to like 6. He's my early favorite outside of the top 2
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Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#440 » by amcoolio » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:13 pm

Someone always emerges from nowhere as we get towards May and June... Scottie Barnes....Russell Westbrook...Josh Giddey....

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