Fake Trade Thread #7

[GoBobs]

How about 4 and 34 for 8,19,26

[SWedd523]

none of those picks are as valuable as #4.

This isn't the NFL. You very rarely get return on volume.

[Diop]

Also I don't understand the Jrue hype when most are suggesting we draft VJ.

Are we bringing VJ off the bench in this scenario?

i dont rely upon any draft choice to come in and hold down a position. I would always look to fill the gaps and if the draft pick works out its a bonus.
VJ or whoever comes in a kills it to start, then adjust. even Lamelo started off on the bench.

[Diop]

Anybody interested in forking over a 1st round pick for Ben Mathurin? He's underutilized by IND but is still only 22. Still has 2 years under his rookie deal so not sure why IND would be motivated to move him, but just curious if anyone would be interested.

i doubt they trade him, he was there 3rd highest scorer throughout the year but his minutes have gone down some in the playoffs probably due to his defense.

[Diop]

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im cooling on him as a trade target, barely plays 60 games a year, soft rebounder for his size. Not sure I would give up a ton for him.

im all for trading the Dallas pick though, i think thats a bit of fools gold, i dont see them tanking for a while now

[HornetJail]

like i wouldn't riot if we wound up trading #4 for him, but I probably wouldn't offer anything Ainge would be interested in

He'd be an excellent fit, even if I don't really think he's a star

[JMAC3]

I wouldn't trade #4 but for maybe 10 guys in the league. Not that I think they aren't worth it but we just spent 2 years tanking and taking on bad salaries to build up a billion future picks. Spurs just traded a **** sandwich for DeAaron Fox, despite having a billion better assets.

[JMAC3]

I wouldn't trade #4 but for maybe 10 guys in the league. Not that I think they aren't worth it but we just spent 2 years tanking and taking on bad salaries to build up a billion future picks. Spurs just traded a **** sandwich for DeAaron Fox, despite having a billion better assets.

Actually here is my list.
Duh-----Jokic, SGA, Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Ant
Actually would do it Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Brunson, Mobley, Jalen Williams, Franz, Paolo, Haliburton, Chet, Amen and Cade

Again, not saying the guys drafted will be better than anyone not listed but in terms of value with the salary cap, team control, and blind upside I would rather just take a player inside the top 5. Especially when we have 10 other tradeable firsts.

So yeah not trading 4 for Lauri, Zion, Morant, JJJ, AD etc...

[Bassman]

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im cooling on him as a trade target, barely plays 60 games a year, soft rebounder for his size. Not sure I would give up a ton for him.

im all for trading the Dallas pick though, i think thats a bit of fools gold, i dont see them tanking for a while now

I might be curious to try the following offer to the Jazz: Bridges, Green, #4, #34 and Dallas first for Lauri and #5. If they pushed back but interested, might substitute swapping for their 21st pick instead of 5th. Would still give us a good player from options like Will Riley, maybe Coward, Fleming, etc. But agree on wariness relative to Lauri. Is he fading because he’s unmotivated, or regularly dinged up? Can he regain an assertive excellence if placed into a different team full of young guys hungry to win? It would be a bold move toward a still young veteran who may blend well with Mark Williams. Twin towers is new again!

[Rich4114]

I wouldn't trade #4 but for maybe 10 guys in the league. Not that I think they aren't worth it but we just spent 2 years tanking and taking on bad salaries to build up a billion future picks. Spurs just traded a **** sandwich for DeAaron Fox, despite having a billion better assets.

Actually here is my list.
Duh-----Jokic, SGA, Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Ant
Actually would do it Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Brunson, Mobley, Jalen Williams, Franz, Paolo, Haliburton, Chet, Amen and Cade

Again, not saying the guys drafted will be better than anyone not listed but in terms of value with the salary cap, team control, and blind upside I would rather just take a player inside the top 5. Especially when we have 10 other tradeable firsts.

So yeah not trading 4 for Lauri, Zion, Morant, JJJ, AD etc...

Hol up. You'd trade 4 for Haliburton and Jalen Williams but not JJJ or Ja? I'd trade 4 for JJJ in a heartbeat. It would be difficult to turn #4 into a player as impactful as JJJ. Let's say we end up with VJ, which is what most mocks say. And I'm a big VJ fan, I want him to be the pick over anyone else. But we'd be BANKING on him being at least as impactful as JJJ if not more by passing that up.

[JMAC3]

I wouldn't trade #4 but for maybe 10 guys in the league. Not that I think they aren't worth it but we just spent 2 years tanking and taking on bad salaries to build up a billion future picks. Spurs just traded a **** sandwich for DeAaron Fox, despite having a billion better assets.

Actually here is my list.
Duh-----Jokic, SGA, Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Ant
Actually would do it Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Brunson, Mobley, Jalen Williams, Franz, Paolo, Haliburton, Chet, Amen and Cade

Again, not saying the guys drafted will be better than anyone not listed but in terms of value with the salary cap, team control, and blind upside I would rather just take a player inside the top 5. Especially when we have 10 other tradeable firsts.

So yeah not trading 4 for Lauri, Zion, Morant, JJJ, AD etc...

Hol up. You'd trade 4 for Haliburton and Jalen Williams but not JJJ or Ja? I'd trade 4 for JJJ in a heartbeat. It would be difficult to turn #4 into a player as impactful as JJJ. Let's say we end up with VJ, which is what most mocks say. And I'm a big VJ fan, I want him to be the pick over anyone else. But we'd be BANKING on him being at least as impactful as JJJ if not more by passing that up.

Yeah, pretty easily would rather have those guys who are both younger.
Jaren Jackson and Ja were both terrible in the playoffs.

JJJ shot 40.5% efg% and put up 16ppg.- Jaren is in last year of deal making 23 million. Are you trading #4 for him and then giving him a 4/200 million contract extension? To me I am okay to not pay 50 million to him.
Morant shot 45% efg% and put 18 ppg. - Morant has played a total of 59 games the last two years and is never in the media for anything positive.

[Rich4114]

Actually here is my list.
Duh-----Jokic, SGA, Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Ant
Actually would do it Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Brunson, Mobley, Jalen Williams, Franz, Paolo, Haliburton, Chet, Amen and Cade

Again, not saying the guys drafted will be better than anyone not listed but in terms of value with the salary cap, team control, and blind upside I would rather just take a player inside the top 5. Especially when we have 10 other tradeable firsts.

So yeah not trading 4 for Lauri, Zion, Morant, JJJ, AD etc...

Hol up. You'd trade 4 for Haliburton and Jalen Williams but not JJJ or Ja? I'd trade 4 for JJJ in a heartbeat. It would be difficult to turn #4 into a player as impactful as JJJ. Let's say we end up with VJ, which is what most mocks say. And I'm a big VJ fan, I want him to be the pick over anyone else. But we'd be BANKING on him being at least as impactful as JJJ if not more by passing that up.

Yeah, pretty easily would rather have those guys who are both younger.
Jaren Jackson and Ja were both terrible in the playoffs.

JJJ shot 40.5% efg% and put up 16ppg.- Jaren is in last year of deal making 23 million. Are you trading #4 for him and then giving him a 4/200 million contract extension? To me I am okay to not pay 50 million to him.
Morant shot 45% efg% and put 18 ppg. - Morant has played a total of 59 games the last two years and is never in the media for anything positive.

Yes I would trade a possible/hopeful star for a guaranteed one. Especially JJJ given his fit on this roster.

[MasterIchiro]

No way in God's green Earth Grizzlies trade JJJ for 4.

[GoBobs]

Anthony Davis for 4, Dallas pick returned, Nurkic, Josh Green

LaMelo
S. Curry
B. Miller
Miles Bridges/Grant Williams
Anthony Davis/Mark Williams/Moose

[JMAC3]

Hol up. You'd trade 4 for Haliburton and Jalen Williams but not JJJ or Ja? I'd trade 4 for JJJ in a heartbeat. It would be difficult to turn #4 into a player as impactful as JJJ. Let's say we end up with VJ, which is what most mocks say. And I'm a big VJ fan, I want him to be the pick over anyone else. But we'd be BANKING on him being at least as impactful as JJJ if not more by passing that up.

Yeah, pretty easily would rather have those guys who are both younger.
Jaren Jackson and Ja were both terrible in the playoffs.

JJJ shot 40.5% efg% and put up 16ppg.- Jaren is in last year of deal making 23 million. Are you trading #4 for him and then giving him a 4/200 million contract extension? To me I am okay to not pay 50 million to him.
Morant shot 45% efg% and put 18 ppg. - Morant has played a total of 59 games the last two years and is never in the media for anything positive.

Yes I would trade a possible/hopeful star for a guaranteed one. Especially JJJ given his fit on this roster.

Yeah it is more about having to pay Jaren Jackson 50 million+ per year. Luckily for Grizzlies he didn't make all-nba or he would have been elgible for 5/345 million extension (69 million)- he might decline an extension to try to make it again next year.

[Rich4114]

Yeah, pretty easily would rather have those guys who are both younger.
Jaren Jackson and Ja were both terrible in the playoffs.

JJJ shot 40.5% efg% and put up 16ppg.- Jaren is in last year of deal making 23 million. Are you trading #4 for him and then giving him a 4/200 million contract extension? To me I am okay to not pay 50 million to him.
Morant shot 45% efg% and put 18 ppg. - Morant has played a total of 59 games the last two years and is never in the media for anything positive.

Yes I would trade a possible/hopeful star for a guaranteed one. Especially JJJ given his fit on this roster.

Yeah it is more about having to pay Jaren Jackson 50 million+ per year. Luckily for Grizzlies he didn't make all-nba or he would have been elgible for 5/345 million extension (69 million)- he might decline an extension to try to make it again next year.

So a borderline All-NBA guy who plays a position of need you would not trade #4 in this draft for because of his salary? Brother, we are paying Nurkic, Josh Green and Miles Bridges more than what JJJ makes. I'd happily pay $55m to JJJ instead of those players if all I had to do was give up #4.

[Rich4114]

Last 10 #4 picks for reference:

Stephon Castle
Amen Thompson
Keegan Murray
Scottie Barnes
Pat Williams
De'Andre Hunter
JJJ Ironically
Josh Jackson (lol)
Dragan Bender (lol)
Porzingis

Now factor in WHO is making the #4 pick and what do you think the chances of that player being better than arguably the best player on this list is? I get it's a strong draft, but let's go middle of the road and say he's Keegan Murray or Barnes.... not trading either of them for JJJ?

[fatlever]

Last 10 #4 picks for reference:

Stephon Castle
Amen Thompson
Keegan Murray
Scottie Barnes
Pat Williams
De'Andre Hunter
JJJ Ironically
Josh Jackson (lol)
Dragan Bender (lol)
Porzingis

Now factor in WHO is making the #4 pick and what do you think the chances of that player being better than arguably the best player on this list is? I get it's a strong draft, but let's go middle of the road and say he's Keegan Murray or Barnes.... not trading either of them for JJJ?

these players ranked for I would want the most on the Hornets. Not based on the player they are today but pretending we get them from their rookie year onward

1. jjj
2. barnes
3. amen
4. porz
5. castle
6. murray
7. hunter
8. pat
9. bender
10. josh

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if vj goes 3rd, then absolutely, yes.

[LofJ]

Brett Siegel reporting that we're interested in Jalen Green. I assume we'd be sending out Miles in this scenario.

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