Rhymes with Nintendo - The Gerald Henderson Thread

[gordito]

That tsherkin guy is a major troll. In the Gerald Henderson thread on the GB, I asked him to name 15 players who he would take over Henderson right now and he comes out with a list including Randy Foye, Deshawn Stevenson, and Chauncey Billups. He then proceeded to rattle off a bunch of BS about why Billups> Henderson, how Henderson is horrible offensively and a non factor defensively. I can only hope he thought he was on the Raps board talking about Landry Fields.

I find him to be a very insightful basketball fan who presents valid points in most cases.

He can be a little stat driven at times though and needs to trust his feel-o-meter a little more.

This is what I don't get. In no form or fashion (stat driven or feel-o-meter driven) is Deshawn Stevenson better than Henderson

[KembaWalker]

lol gordito i didnt see he actually locked the Hendo GB thread. what a joke poster

[BigSlam]

I'd pay Hendo 32/4 with the 4th year being a player option.

That would break down as:

1 Years $6,911,447
2 Years $7,637,149
3 Years $8,362,851
4 Years $9,088,553 (player option)

[catch20two]

That 4th year should be a team option...and I think you guys are seriously overvaluing how much we're going to have to pay Hendo. I'd be surprised if another team threw more than $6 million per year at Hendo. This might be the first season that's he's even posted an average PER in his career. No doubt I want Hendo back and value what he brings to this team but he's under the radar no matter how many 20-point games he drop during the dog days of the NBA season.

If I was a GM my 1st offer to Hendo would be 3-years/$20 million.

[BigSlam]

That 4th year should be a team option...and I think you guys are seriously overvaluing how much we're going to have to pay Hendo. I'd be surprised if another team threw more than $6 million per year at Hendo. This might be the first season that's he's even posted an average PER in his career. No doubt I want Hendo back and value what he brings to this team but he's under the radar no matter how many 20-point games he drop during the dog days of the NBA season.

If I was a GM my 1st offer to Hendo would be 3-years/$20 million.

1 Years $6,033,183
2 Years $6,666,667
3 Years $7,300,151

[HornetJail]

^ That's a fair offer, but if another team offers that, there's no chance they get Hendo because we'll simply match. All it takes is one GM to fall in love with Hendo.

I'd pay Hendo 32/4 with the 4th year being a player option.

That would break down as:

1 Years $6,911,447
2 Years $7,637,149
3 Years $8,362,851
4 Years $9,088,553 (player option)

This is roughly what I expect we'll have to pay. I'm quite happy with this.

[thruthefire]

I, for one, believe Hendo's performance over these last 30 games is more legitimate than flukey. And the great thing is that he still has so much more room to grow as a three-point shooter, despite the significant improvements he's already made this season. A four-year, $32-million deal would basically be rewarding him for coming on very strong late, but it's worth the gamble.

[vorbis]

i wonder if henderson will get offered by some savvy team hoping to score an under the radar signing, because on the surface, henderson doesn't seem to have broken through this season, his recent uptick in scoring aside. however, he has become a significantly more efficient player. he's still a 45% shooter, as always, but he's making more 3's and getting to the line (and converting) a higher percentage of the time. aside from that, if you're just looking at the stat line, he's the same guy.

his jumper has started to get the consistency you're looking for, and i like how much better he's been taking care of the ball this season. knowing what i know about the bobcats, what his next contract ends up being will depend entirely on other offers he might receive. if the market gets too cold, i can see him taking a short term deal here with the starting spot his to lose, and try to flesh out his improvements a bit more for a bigger payday down the road.

[ohara]

I'd pay Hendo 32/4 with the 4th year being a player option.

That would break down as:

1 Years $6,911,447
2 Years $7,637,149
3 Years $8,362,851
4 Years $9,088,553 (player option)

I'd pay that, and I think the Cats would as well. Have to think the FO tries to extend him before the draft as whether we have him or not may depend upon whether we go after McLemore or perhaps Noel. I know you go after the best player available, but I think our needs are so great that BPA and Needs get figured in together.

[KembaWalker]

asked why he locked the GB hendo thread after being called out to list his "30 SGs better than Henderson" tsherkin says posters were being "inordinately hostile" to him. asked to list which posts were off topic or inordinately hostile he responds:

An opinion that is not the same as yours is not 'ridiculous.'

It is not my fault that you don't yet know how to disagree in a civil fashion. That is indicative of the tone of posts inthat thread, ornwhen Sik infant started commenting on my undertanding of statistical analysis. Address content, not posters, andyou will have fewer troubles.

You're a poster with a long and well-documented history of trolling, baiting and personal attacks; your fitness for commentary here is limited. You are constantly starting things and bein overly hostile and aggressive towards other posters and this was yet another example. Don't come in here with your frustration and bitterness and expect anything other than the response you are receiving. You guys started problems and because there are three of you and I have been involved in your warnings and suspensions a lot, you are using me as a focus for deflection, but it isnt going to be entertained any further.

tldr: no hostile posts listed, locks complaint thread, attacks me for being overly hostile in a GB thread? when I can't even post in the GB.



lol realgm goin to ****

its annoying because that thread would still be goin just fine after Hendo went Kobe clutch mode last night

[BobsBuddy]

Wow Hendo looked good against the 9th seed in the eastern confernce last night. Sorry Slam but 32 over 4 is too much to pay... 26 over 4 is better @ 6 a year equally spread which is double his current salary. Then add 2 mil in incentives.. Otherwise say Bye.... and go shopping for FA

[gordito]

:hoop: Wow Hendo looked good against the 9th seed in the eastern confernce last night. Sorry Slam but 32 over 4 is too much to pay... 26 over 4 is better @ 6 a year equally spread which is double his current salary. Then add 2 mil in incentives.. Otherwise say Bye.... and go shopping for FA

I think he'll land somewhere in between. The fact Derozan somehow ended up with $10 million/year will definitely increase Henderson's leveraging power. Is there a list of teams who might go after Henderson and be willing to pay a slight premium? I honestly can't think of any team who are both A) in dire need of an SG and B ) has the cap space to pay one.

[BigSlam]

:hoop: Wow Hendo looked good against the 9th seed in the eastern confernce last night. Sorry Slam but 32 over 4 is too much to pay... 26 over 4 is better @ 6 a year equally spread which is double his current salary. Then add 2 mil in incentives.. Otherwise say Bye.... and go shopping for FA

I think he'll land somewhere in between. The fact Derozan somehow ended up with $10 million/year will definitely increase Henderson's leveraging power. Is there a list of teams who might go after Henderson and be willing to pay a slight premium? I honestly can't think of any team who are both A) in dire need of an SG and B ) has the cap space to pay one.

Pistons.

[catch20two]

Pistons.

Dumars is dumb enough but you would think that he's learned something from overpaying Gordon and Villanueva followed by overpaying re-signees Prince and Stuckey not to do it again.

[Eoghan]

Derozan's contract was pre-new CBA, wasn't it?

[HornetJail]

Derozan's contract was pre-new CBA, wasn't it?

They extended him this season, so no. Why would they amnesty him with Bargnani on the roster?

[amcoolio]

Hopefully the fact that Henderson is on the Bobcats will decrease his value league wide. I think 7 to 8 million a year is a very fair offer and I just can't see him getting that from another team. The Pistons would just assume draft one of the sure-to-be-available SG's in the draft than spend 8 million on Henderson.

[KembaWalker]

i dont understand. DeRozan and Hendo were the same class...so Toronto willingly locked up DeRozan for 10 mil early so he wouldnt hit RFA? They were afraid he was gonna get offered more? lost here

[HornetJail]

It's Colangelo, don't read into it, you just go with it.

[catch20two]

i dont understand. DeRozan and Hendo were the same class...so Toronto willingly locked up DeRozan for 10 mil early so he wouldnt hit RFA? They were afraid he was gonna get offered more? lost here

That was essentially Colangelo's train of thought when he gave DeRozan that extension since they noticed his improved jump shot that offseason and thought that was all he needed to become an above average player but they left consistency out of the equation.