The 2013 free agency thread.

[HornetJail]

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/06/29/mighty-mokes-top-50-nba-free-agents/3/

the evil sheridan hoops has hendo ranked #26 on their list

26. Gerald Henderson (Shooting Guard, Charlotte Bobcats)

If he played in a bigger market, we would hear much more about him. The Bobcats cannot really afford to let talented young players go, but at 25 years old and just turning in 15.5 points, 3.7 rebounds and 2.6 assists per game last season, the best is yet to come. Whether or not Michael Jordan’s team is willing to open up the checkbook for Henderson will determine if he leaves Charlotte.

100% correct. If he played for Brooklyn or something and went on a two-month stretch run like he did at the end of this season, he'd be making Derozan money, no questions asked.

[BeesWax]

I think this team would have an outside chance at making the playoffs, but if we finished in the range of he 7th-12th worst team lets say, we would still have the ability to jump into the top 3, if it happens it happens. There is no guarantee either way that we will be a top 3 team when it comes to drafting. Then we also have the chance at another pick via Portland or Detroit. This leads us to three options...

1. We package the picks to move as high as we can in the draft.
2. We take BPA and keep building our team.
3. We take the two picks and maybe add in another current piece(Biz) to deal for another good piece to build on such as a Horford, Love or Monroe.

Please tell me you were kidding about jumping into the top three. Nobody is going to trade like that in this next draft. There are real players to be had at 1-5 unlike grabbing what we did at 4 this year. There was a reason we were looking into moving down and that is because the talent than went at 4 was no better than the talent that went at 9 or 10 this year. We are not getting Love for that package and can't play Monroe with Zeller. Horford could be an option is Atlanta decides to start form scratch.

God I hope we don't ruin this whole thing with Mayo.

[MasterIchiro]

Dirk describes Mayo as a gym rat that reminds him of himself when he was in his mid twenties. So maybe Mayo fits in with our hard-working culture after all? Rick Carlisle also raves about him. I think Dallas was a key stop on his journey and evolution towards becoming a star.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlmnBKRIHMk[/youtube]

[BeesWax]

Dirk describes Mayo as a gym rat that reminds him of himself when he was in his mid twenties. So maybe Mayo fits in with our hard-working culture after all? Rick Carlisle also raves about him. I think Dallas was a key stop on his journey and evolution towards becoming a star.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlmnBKRIHMk[/youtube]

Mayo better turn into Kobe then. That is a horrible 8th seed team we are putting together. We have a PG and SG who will have the ball all the time which will stunt MKG and role players at the 4 and 5. This is the recipe for a rebuild in 5 years again. This will be a fun treadmill to get on. Bottom tier playoff team for 5 years then bottom tier team period for 3 years and repeat. Sounds like a blast.

[HornetJail]

Mayo is not coming to Charlotte unless he specifically takes less money (and I'm talking MLE or less) to come here. I have very little interest in that chucker. Hendo is far more reliable and actually plays both sides of the ball.

[MasterIchiro]

40% from 3 is no chucker. Plus he can pass the ball and facilitate for bigs as Rick Carlisle mentions.

Here's another video where you get to hear O.J. Mayo's character come through. He seems like a competitor and he comes across like an eager learner and someone who has reached the stage in his career where he constantly wants to improve. After I watched this video, I found the comments about him being a cancer LOL-able. Everyone in Dallas there loved him and he deferred to the culture and didn't act up. He learned from the vets. I think he's ready to take the next step and lead a young group with Kemba.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-V77dol4U[/youtube]

[BeesWax]

40% from 3 is no chucker. Plus he can pass the ball and facilitate for bigs as Rick Carlisle mentions.

Here's another video where you get to hear O.J. Mayo's character come through. He seems like a competitor and he comes across like an eager learner and someone who has reached the stage in his career where he constantly wants to improve. After I watched this video, I found the comments about him being a cancer LOL-able. Everyone in Dallas there loved him and he deferred to the culture and didn't act up. He learned from the vets. I think he's ready to take the next step and lead a young group with Kemba.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-V77dol4U[/youtube]

Wow he was a good teammate for one whole year. Well count me as changed lets sign up this kid. No reason to think he can destroy this team at all.

Mayo is a bad call unless he comes very cheap and I mean offer him the same you offer Hendo and no more.

[MasterIchiro]

And here is ample footage of O.J. Mayo displaying star quality, driving, dishing, dribbling, shooting. It's long but really this guys game is worth the watch. I hope Cho and MJ have watched this guy mature and evolve. When I watch this footage I just imagine how he would perform if paired with Kemba. Defenders have to give him space because they respect his handle and quickness but they can't leave him wide open either or he will drain the shot. He would be like having a second PG. He averaged nearly 5 assists per game when paired with Collison and with Dirk injured for half the season. Kemba and Mayo would totally boss. It's such a lethal back court, and young with room to grow!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oXOUK3CH90[/youtube]

[BeesWax]

If you can get him for 4 years at 6 per ok otherwise pass. I guess the good thing is that if the other team has a really good SG you can guard him with MKG so we don't have to watch the guy go for 50.

[MasterIchiro]

If you can get him for 4 years at 6 per ok otherwise pass. I guess the good thing is that if the other team has a really good SG you can guard him with MKG so we don't have to watch the guy go for 50.

Exactly. One of the huge advantages of MKG is being able to free up your SG for offense. It helps that Mayo excels on that end of the floor and unlike McLemore, he has handle, can create his own shot and is not afraid of having the ball in his hands. His shot is not as good but at 40% from 3 last year, it is proven and elite considering all the other skills Mayo brings to the table. Excellent primary scoring option for Kemba and this team. We always talk about how new additions like Zeller will make current players like Biz better but the reverse applies. Mayo will open up lanes for MKG's game and MKG can switch over to SG against tough opponents. We have players with different strengths. None is complete without the other. We are missing a primary scorer. Mayo has proven he has that ability and he did it in a high profile market, under Rick Carlisle's watch, in Dirk Nowitski's house.

[BeesWax]

If you can get him for 4 years at 6 per ok otherwise pass. I guess the good thing is that if the other team has a really good SG you can guard him with MKG so we don't have to watch the guy go for 50.

Exactly. One of the huge advantages of MKG is being able to free up your SG for offense. It helps that Mayo excels on that end of the floor and unlike McLemore, he has handle, can create his own shot and is not afraid of having the ball in his hands. His shot is not as good but at 40% from 3 last year, it is proven and elite considering all the other skills Mayo brings to the table. Excellent primary scoring option for Kemba and this team. We always talk about how new additions like Zeller will make current players like Biz better but the reverse applies. Mayo will open up lanes for MKG's game and MKG can switch over to SG against tough opponents. We have players with different strengths. None is complete without the other. We are missing a primary scorer. Mayo has proven he has that ability and he did it in a high profile market, under Rick Carlisle's watch, in Dirk Nowitski's house.

But he better come cheap. If you overspend on a guy who has all the way up until this past season been a headcase and he reverts to status quo it is a mistake. At this point we can bring in anyone who can shoot at the 2 or 3 because MKG can slash and defend the other teams best wing player. Mayo is a headcase so he better come at a reduced cost or it is not worth the gamble.

[JMAC3]

Wow he was a good teammate for one whole year. Well count me as changed lets sign up this kid. No reason to think he can destroy this team at all.

Mayo is a bad call unless he comes very cheap and I mean offer him the same you offer Hendo and no more.

So, where is your proof that he was ever a bad teammate. You have not given one example of him ever being less than a stellar teammate. You act like this guy is JR Smith or DeMarcus Cousins.

I do not understand why you do not like the guy. He is a perfect fit between Kemba and MKG as their is on the free agent market. Like it has been said I do not think he is a defensive stopper by any means, but he is no Ben Gordon either. If necessary he has solid size to be able to guard the 3 and let MKG guard the best wings.

Honestly its not like Henderson is some lockdown defender, yeah he plays pretty good defense, but he is not going to be on any defensive teams any time soon. Mayo is a much better facilitator and can create his shot better than Hendo. Obviously his three point abilities blow Hendo out of the water and him and Hendo are the same age.

Its laughable people are saying we need to pay McRoberts 5 million a year, but they only think we should offer Mayo 6. I think we need to look at free agency a lot different than what many of you guys have been. We overvalue our players and downgrade everybody else.

[Elden Payton]

I'm liking the mayo idea.

If Hendo wants 4/28 but we could get Mayo for 4/32 then who would you take?

it's time we make a bold move imo.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm liking the mayo idea.

If Hendo wants 4/28 but we could get Mayo for 4/32 then who would you take?

it's time we make a bold move imo.

No. I would still take Hendo over Mayo if those were the offers. Mayo could become a locker room cancer & an obstruction of Cho's justice on a team like the Bobcats where he will feel like he has to be alpha dog 1A. I think Mayo is slightly a better player than Hendo, but unless he somehow has a close friendship or association with one of the young core players (Kemba, MKG, Biyombo), then it is too risky to pay a extra $4 million on what would theoretically be a parallel move statistically just to say to your fans & media that you have a more popular player that makes one more 3-pointer per game all the while restructuring continuity & chemistry

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 02&y2=2013

[BeesWax]

I'm liking the mayo idea.

If Hendo wants 4/28 but we could get Mayo for 4/32 then who would you take?

it's time we make a bold move imo.

At those prices I don't know that I want either but would go with Hendo because he is cheaper.

[vorbis]

mayo is in no way shape or form a #1 scoring option. i watched him a bit in the beginning of this past season when he set the league on fire for a solid month, and i never got the feeling that he could carry a team or be depended on for 18-20pts night after night. also, he has found his way to bench/scrub minutes at every stop he's had. that screams inconsistency. i would easily take henderson over him right now. add in the fact that mayo will probably get a payday befitting his original draft status and ensuing "potential," and i wouldn't carve out significant cap space for him at all, except maybe on a one year deal, which he probably has zero incentive to accept.

[BeesWax]

Wow he was a good teammate for one whole year. Well count me as changed lets sign up this kid. No reason to think he can destroy this team at all.

Mayo is a bad call unless he comes very cheap and I mean offer him the same you offer Hendo and no more.

So, where is your proof that he was ever a bad teammate. You have not given one example of him ever being less than a stellar teammate. You act like this guy is JR Smith or DeMarcus Cousins.

I do not understand why you do not like the guy. He is a perfect fit between Kemba and MKG as their is on the free agent market. Like it has been said I do not think he is a defensive stopper by any means, but he is no Ben Gordon either. If necessary he has solid size to be able to guard the 3 and let MKG guard the best wings.

Honestly its not like Henderson is some lockdown defender, yeah he plays pretty good defense, but he is not going to be on any defensive teams any time soon. Mayo is a much better facilitator and can create his shot better than Hendo. Obviously his three point abilities blow Hendo out of the water and him and Hendo are the same age.

Its laughable people are saying we need to pay McRoberts 5 million a year, but they only think we should offer Mayo 6. I think we need to look at free agency a lot different than what many of you guys have been. We overvalue our players and downgrade everybody else.

You mean other than all the stuff he did at Memphis. He got in a fight with Tony Allen and also got benched for skipping practices. Both those things are what we want him to pass on to our younger players for sure. He got in trouble this past year for disappearing during games and got in trouble in Memphis for being a ball hog and causing team chemistry problems which is why they let him go. There is a reason he only made $4.2 million this year. What happens if you give him a payday and he decides to go back to his old ways now that he has a contract.

[KembaWalker]

not a big Mayo fan. if it was between him and Hendo I prefer Hendo

[BlackOutBuzz]

Worth noting that not only would Hendo likely be cheaper, but we can exceed the cap to re-sign him. As a RFA he has a cap hold, but we could hold off on re-signing him at first and even fill up the rest of our cap space if we wanted and still have room for Hendo, can't say that for Mayo.

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[Snidely FC]

Its laughable people are saying we need to pay McRoberts 5 million a year, but they only think we should offer Mayo 6. I think we need to look at free agency a lot different than what many of you guys have been. We overvalue our players and downgrade everybody else.

McBob is 6'10, only 26. He aggressively rebounded. He looked to set picks and pass, at all times getting others involved. He played within the system. Other parts of the team worked better when he was on the floor. He did it all with a joie de vivre that inspired esprit des corps. In short, he played basketball the way I enjoy seeing it played. Call me a terrible homer but I would gladly overpay him to stay.