Fake Trade Thread III

Liver_Pooty · Post #441 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 5:37 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Yeah, I noticed many posters here were anxious to re-sign Gerald Henderson - they did not want to change anything about the guard position this off season.

Yeah I was one of those posters. Beginning to regret it already.

MasterIchiro · Post #442 » by **MasterIchiro** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 5:44 pm

I also have a Big East bias. If you look back on the draft thread, I was pushing for MCW with the POR pick. It wasn't meant to be. I saw him as a replacement for Sessions. Again, many fans didn't want to change anything about his spot. People are slow to change in general and fans grow attached to players.

mrknowitall215 · Post #443 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 6:01 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I'm a UConn fan born and raised from obscurity to 3 time NCAA champion. It would've been nice to get Drummond here and to a lesser extent Lamb.

Same here to a similar degree. I became a UConn fan immediately after they recruited Khalid El-Amin & pretty much rode the wave of those 3 national championships. I definitely wanted Drummond to land with the Bobcats, but I also liked MKG as a consolation so either or was fine by me. I also was hoping that the Bobcats could make a trade for Lamb to supplant Henderson as the SG of the future, but I think that boat has sailed

Radu_Hornets · Post #444 » by **Radu_Hornets** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 6:56 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I also have a Big East bias. If you look back on the draft thread, I was pushing for MCW with the POR pick. It wasn't meant to be. I saw him as a replacement for Sessions. Again, many fans didn't want to change anything about his spot. People are slow to change in general and fans grow attached to players.

I don"t think MCW would have had his breakout with Charlotte... He would not have seen the floor so much and not given so many responsibilities...

thruthefire · Post #445 » by **thruthefire** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 7:44 pm

I've always had the impression that several posters here are really just Kemba Walker fans. Kind of like the Stack Jack fan that posted here, or the Boris Diaw fan. It's why Rudy Gay and Jeremy Lamb have been discussed an irrational amount on this board.

mrknowitall215 · Post #446 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 7:58 pm

thruthefire wrote:I've always had the impression that several posters on here were really just Kemba Walker fans. Kind of like the Stack Jack fan that posted here, or the Boris Diaw fan. It's why Rudy Gay and Jeremy Lamb have been discussed an irrational amount on this board.

Don't forget the D.J. Augustin fan that posted here. I think his name was 'ballwhore' or something like that. I'll be the first to tell you that I'm not an eternal Bobcats fan, but I follow the team a great amount and have adopted a passion for them to win, whether it's a actual game or acquiring the best player

The Rudy Gay trade proposals actually arose from reports that Cho was "aggressively pursuing" him around the trade deadline of last season. The Jeremy Lamb trade proposals may have a little bit of UConn implications, but mostly due to the fact that he & Kemba played well enough alongside each other in the backcourt that it lead to a national championship. I still think Lamb is a better option than Gerald Henderson, but it'll likely cost too much to obtain him as always been the case

They_Them_Hatin · Post #447 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 9:12 pm

I think Kemba should be the only untouchable. Sessions should be traded he's likely gone to a contender in the off season . What crappy contract you guys think we will target for a first with Gordon's expiring?

Post #448 » by **JDR720** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 9:46 pm

i didn't want to resign Gerald i always thought he sucked and was playing for a contract

Post #449 » by **JDR720** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 9:47 pm

ntsap wrote:I think Kemba should be the only untouchable. Sessions should be traded he's likely gone to a contender in the off season . What crappy contract you guys think we will target for a first with Gordon's expiring?

maybe Kendrick Perkins(9mill) and money/player and a 1st round pick

mrknowitall215 · Post #450 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 9:59 pm

ntsap wrote:I think Kemba should be the only untouchable. Sessions should be traded he's likely gone to a contender in the off season . What crappy contract you guys think we will target for a first with Gordon's expiring?

I think Cho would be smart to just let Gordon's expiring contract simply expire instead of trying to trade it away for late lottery picks. First round picks are overvalued unless you're a team that's patient enough to take one with protection in hopes that the team that you got it from fall apart by the time the protection wears off. The Bobcats don't have many options as far as trade possibilities that'll net a better prospect in the barter unless they plan on including at least one the 1st rounders that they own from Portland or Detroit

MasterIchiro · Post #451 » by **MasterIchiro** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 10:03 pm

I'd just be happy with OKC's first round pick for Sessions. We should just concentrate on hoarding first round picks for this upcoming draft. There's no excuse not to move an expiring player with value.

It disgusts me no GM was stupid enough to take Henderson this past deadline, not even for a late first rounder. But now we know just how smart those GM's are. But that's another story...

OKC has to have a better backup for Westbrook if they want to hedge against another injury and advance deep.

Post #452 » by **JDR720** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 10:12 pm

yea maybe Charlotte can pull a Houston and get 4 or more 1st round picks in the same draft

Liver_Pooty · Post #453 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:17 pm

Trading Sessions would just be stupid. You don't trade away one of the best backups in the league for mediocre draft picks. And I doubt he will leave to go to a contender. He left the Lakers (who at the time were considered contenders) to come to our lowly team

MPM · Post #454 » by **MPM** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:27 pm

A random, speculative thought - if Chicago is stumbling around December wonder if they would consider Deng and Butler for MKG, Hendo and either DET or POR pick?

If they don't show well this year, Deng is as good as gone this summer. I know they love Butler, and he would be the prize on our end. Obviously Deng/Butler have more value than Hendo/MKG, but a potential 2014 lottery pick could even things out.

Hmmm...

Liver_Pooty · Post #455 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:29 pm

MPM wrote:A random, speculative thought - if Chicago is stumbling around December wonder if they would consider Deng and Butler for MKG, Hendo and either DET or POR pick?

If they don't show well this year, Deng is as good as gone this summer. I know they love Butler, and he would be the prize on our end. Obviously Deng/Butler have more value than Hendo/MKG, but a potential 2014 lottery pick could even things out.

Hmmm...

I have a sneaking suspicion that Dengs expiring will be traded to Toronto for Gay.

Elden Payton · Post #456 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:31 pm

MPM wrote:A random, speculative thought - if Chicago is stumbling around December wonder if they would consider Deng and Butler for MKG, Hendo and either DET or POR pick?

If they don't show well this year, Deng is as good as gone this summer. I know they love Butler, and he would be the prize on our end. Obviously Deng/Butler have more value than Hendo/MKG, but a potential 2014 lottery pick could even things out.

Hmmm...

I wouldn't even do this trade MPM.

Deng would walk on us and this would essentially leave us handing out MKG and a first for 25 year old Jimmy Butler.

MPM · Post #457 » by **MPM** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:31 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MPM wrote:A random, speculative thought - if Chicago is stumbling around December wonder if they would consider Deng and Butler for MKG, Hendo and either DET or POR pick?

If they don't show well this year, Deng is as good as gone this summer. I know they love Butler, and he would be the prize on our end. Obviously Deng/Butler have more value than Hendo/MKG, but a potential 2014 lottery pick could even things out.

Hmmm...

I have a sneaking suspicion that Dengs expiring will be traded to Toronto for Gay.

could definitely see this.

Elden Payton · Post #458 » by **Elden Payton** » Tue Nov 5, 2013 11:32 pm

MPM wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
MPM wrote:A random, speculative thought - if Chicago is stumbling around December wonder if they would consider Deng and Butler for MKG, Hendo and either DET or POR pick?

If they don't show well this year, Deng is as good as gone this summer. I know they love Butler, and he would be the prize on our end. Obviously Deng/Butler have more value than Hendo/MKG, but a potential 2014 lottery pick could even things out.

Hmmm...

I have a sneaking suspicion that Dengs expiring will be traded to Toronto for Gay.

could definitely see this.

I could see this too.

LP I think you're onto something there.

Liver_Pooty · Post #459 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 12:10 am

I also think that we will offer Gordon Hayward and incredible amount of money in free agency. He would fit perfectly here.

thruthefire · Post #460 » by **thruthefire** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 12:32 am

If Sessions is willing to come back on the same type of deal ($5MM annually), I'm all for it. Not only because he's one of the NBA's better sixth men, but we need insurance just in case Kemba's asking price gets too high (in other words, eight figures per year).