The Nik Stauskas Thread

Post #441 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:41 am

MKIA its bizarre how certain you feel with regard to what's going on in Cho's mind, given that you have practically nothing definitive to base it off of.

"He's stuck with a one track mind."

"No way he's considering LaVine and Young."

"He definitely favors Harris. He won't budge if there's a fight over it."

"If there's one pick he isn't married to, it's MKG."

Are you just oblivious to how obnoxious these sort of statements come across?

Liver_Pooty · Post #442 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:43 am

yosemiteben wrote:MKIA its bizarre how certain you feel with regard to what's going on in Cho's mind, given that you have practically nothing definitive to base it off of.

"He's stuck with a one track mind."

"No way he's considering LaVine and Young."

"He definitely favors Harris. He won't budge if there's a fight over it."

"If there's one pick he isn't married to, it's MKG."

Are you just oblivious to how obnoxious these sort of statements come across?

I would And1 this 700 times if I could.

MasterIchiro · Post #443 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:43 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
If there's any pick that Cho isn't married to, it's MKG. MKG just sought of fell into their lap after they were robbed of the #1 overall selection to take Anthony Davis following a 7-59 season, thanks to David Stern

Ford may have Stauskas at #13 right now, but DraftExpress has him at #9 to Charlotte

Well Ford is the loud mouth in the room (so is Bilas) and neither of them are sniffing Stauskas at 9. I'd say the smokescreen is whoever they see going to the Hornets. We're talking ESPN and its numerous contacts in offices around the league.

Sure Ford has a sniffle that the Hornets are gauging Stauskas. The following chat was as recent as yesterday

AJ (NC): What are the Hornets thinking with the 9th pick?

Chad Ford: Doug McDermott. Doug McDermott. With a little Nik Stauskas and Gary Harris throw in. They want a shooter who can play now.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/ ... -chad-ford

There's your smokescreen. Still he refuses to put Stauskas in the top 9 when the Celtics are looking at him at 6, Lakers at 7 and rumors now of Kings at 8. Ford is just embarrassed to scrap his riding McDermott's jock all year. He and Bilas fixate on the college game but they aren't as good about predicting college players like Stauskas whose stock jumps every year this time of year. They miss it all year every time. The NBA scouts think one step ahead of these two. They are too wrapped up in the college game - very much college ball junkies if you ask me. Outside of UConn I don't fixate on any of these guys to be honest. And when I watch UConn I get joy from watching hard working college kids who do what it takes to make it to the NBA. I enjoy watching NBA bound players the most.

MasterIchiro · Post #444 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:45 am

yosemiteben wrote:MKIA its bizarre how certain you feel with regard to what's going on in Cho's mind, given that you have practically nothing definitive to base it off of.

"He's stuck with a one track mind."

"No way he's considering LaVine and Young."

"He definitely favors Harris. He won't budge if there's a fight over it."

"If there's one pick he isn't married to, it's MKG."

Are you just oblivious to how obnoxious these sort of statements come across?

You must be from the South. This is the familiar language of everyone up North. Opinions are presented in this way as a form of persuasion. It's just a language barrier.

Post #445 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:50 am

Yeah...I don't think that's it. There is a definitive line between expressing a reasoned opinion and arbitrarily proclaiming your knowledge of a situation despite an obvious lack of evidence or any attempt to support it.

mrknowitall215 · Post #446 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:51 am

yosemiteben wrote:MKIA its bizarre how certain you feel with regard to what's going on in Cho's mind, given that you have practically nothing definitive to base it off of.

"He's stuck with a one track mind."

"No way he's considering LaVine and Young."

"He definitely favors Harris. He won't budge if there's a fight over it."

"If there's one pick he isn't married to, it's MKG."

Are you just oblivious to how obnoxious these sort of statements come across?

How many times do I have to reiterate my stance in this matter before you leave me alone? It's just my instincts that tell me that Cho will draft Harris, and if it come draft day and 'Mr. Knowitall' is wrong, then you can write me off as not knowing nothing, but at least I'll be happy that he didn't take the guy I least wanted within that range

Me stating my opinion is no different than anybody else stating theirs. Some believe Stauskas is the guy. I don't

mrknowitall215 · Post #447 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:52 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I would And1 this 700 times if I could.

You 'And1' every time somebody replies to me in disagreement :lol:

...don't think I noticed?

Liver_Pooty · Post #448 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:53 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:I would And1 this 700 times if I could.

You 'And1' every time somebody replies to me in disagreement

I must admit, I don't think we have ever agreed on anything. We both don't like McLemore so thats a good starting point

MasterIchiro · Post #449 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:54 am

yosemiteben wrote:Yeah...I don't think that's it. There is a definitive line between expressing a reasoned opinion and arbitrarily proclaiming your knowledge of a situation despite an obvious lack of evidence or any attempt to support it.

The more you press him for his rationale the more information/insight you'll get as to his way of thinking and why. It's just part of the conversation and expected when you're a Yankee. He's inviting you to press him to delve deeper beyond his sweeping statements. He definitely has reason to think that way but yeah it comes across as he's uninterested in elaborating. He's interested imo.

Post #450 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:56 am

I mean, It's one thing to say Harris seems like the type of guy Cho would want. It's another to wax poetic about his psyche like you're his shrink.

Liver_Pooty · Post #451 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:56 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Yeah...I don't think that's it. There is a definitive line between expressing a reasoned opinion and arbitrarily proclaiming your knowledge of a situation despite an obvious lack of evidence or any attempt to support it.

The more you press him for his rationale the more information/insight you'll get as to his way of thinking and why. It's just part of the conversation and expected when you're a Yankee. He's inviting you to press him to delve deeper beyond his sweeping statements. He definitely has reason to think that way but yeah it comes across as he's uninterested in elaborating. He's interested imo.

Or proclaiming to know something about a situation that you honestly have no freaking idea about. No one knows what Cho is thinking, or what is going to occur. For all we know that pick is getting traded. This "I am almost certain were getting Harris" "Were not interested in Lavine or Young" just wreaks of something Chris Broussard would do or something. It wears on you after a while.

mrknowitall215 · Post #452 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:57 am

yosemiteben wrote:I mean, It's one thing to say Harris seems like the type of guy Cho would want. It's another to wax poetic about his psyche like you're his shrink.

In a way, I think I'm a mind reader and/or good at analyzing the way people think based on symmetry, so there's that

KembaWalker · Post #453 » by **KembaWalker** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:58 am

you mean a guy named mrknowitall is acting like a know it all......................

Liver_Pooty · Post #454 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:58 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I mean, It's one thing to say Harris seems like the type of guy Cho would want. It's another to wax poetic about his psyche like you're his shrink.

In a way, I think I'm a mind reader and/or good at analyzing the way people think based on symmetry, so there's that

You da man

Post #455 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:59 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I mean, It's one thing to say Harris seems like the type of guy Cho would want. It's another to wax poetic about his psyche like you're his shrink.

In a way, I think I'm a mind reader and/or good at analyzing the way people think based on symmetry, so there's that

I am not at all surprised to hear you say that :lol:

mrknowitall215 · Post #456 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:00 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Yeah...I don't think that's it. There is a definitive line between expressing a reasoned opinion and arbitrarily proclaiming your knowledge of a situation despite an obvious lack of evidence or any attempt to support it.

The more you press him for his rationale the more information/insight you'll get as to his way of thinking and why. It's just part of the conversation and expected when you're a Yankee. He's inviting you to press him to delve deeper beyond his sweeping statements. He definitely has reason to think that way but yeah it comes across as he's uninterested in elaborating. He's interested imo.

Or proclaiming to know something about a situation that you honestly have no freaking idea about. No one knows what Cho is thinking, or what is going to occur. For all we know that pick is getting traded. This "I am almost certain were getting Harris" "Were not interested in Lavine or Young" just wreaks of something Chris Broussard would do or something. It wears on you after a while.

It's all calculated and written in a manner of it being nothing more than my own personal opinion like 'I think' and 'I'm almost certain', etc.

Sure, I may come off as a Mr. Knowitall, but that's how I got the tag 'MrKnowItAll215'. What else would you expect from a poster with that name?

MasterIchiro · Post #457 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:02 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Yeah...I don't think that's it. There is a definitive line between expressing a reasoned opinion and arbitrarily proclaiming your knowledge of a situation despite an obvious lack of evidence or any attempt to support it.

The more you press him for his rationale the more information/insight you'll get as to his way of thinking and why. It's just part of the conversation and expected when you're a Yankee. He's inviting you to press him to delve deeper beyond his sweeping statements. He definitely has reason to think that way but yeah it comes across as he's uninterested in elaborating. He's interested imo.

Or proclaiming to know something about a situation that you honestly have no freaking idea about. No one knows what Cho is thinking, or what is going to occur. For all we know that pick is getting traded. This "I am almost certain were getting Harris" "Were not interested in Lavine or Young" just wreaks of something Chris Broussard would do or something. It wears on you after a while.

Like I said, just the way Yankees present language in a debate format. He frames the debate to his extreme so that when you press him or state your case, he then fills in supporting details for his extreme stance. It's hard to get him to think your way as a result. Yankees have alot of conviction once they get their mind set on something. I suspect Mr KIA erroneously views Cho like Cho's a Yankee and gets stuck on players. Cho is not so set in his ways I think he values input and weighs it across the org. And yeah I think Clifford's perspective is highly valued - Cho hired the guy and won success with the guy. If Clifford is partial to shooting and size and vocal about it, I think it speaks to Stauskas imo or I hope.

Post #458 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:05 am

#457 Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread

Post #459 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:05 am

"Yankeees" do not all debate or think the same way. "Southerners" do not all debate or think the same way. Characterizing the logic and debate style of people based on where they come from is pretty asinine.

Liver_Pooty · Post #460 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:05 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
The more you press him for his rationale the more information/insight you'll get as to his way of thinking and why. It's just part of the conversation and expected when you're a Yankee. He's inviting you to press him to delve deeper beyond his sweeping statements. He definitely has reason to think that way but yeah it comes across as he's uninterested in elaborating. He's interested imo.

Or proclaiming to know something about a situation that you honestly have no freaking idea about. No one knows what Cho is thinking, or what is going to occur. For all we know that pick is getting traded. This "I am almost certain were getting Harris" "Were not interested in Lavine or Young" just wreaks of something Chris Broussard would do or something. It wears on you after a while.

Like I said, just the way Yankees present language in a debate format. He frames the debate to his extreme so that when you press him or state your case, he then fills in supporting details for his extreme stance. It's hard to get him to think your way as a result. Yankees have alot of conviction once they get their mind set on something. I suspect Mr KIA erroneously views Cho like Cho's a Yankee and gets stuck on players. Cho is not so set in his ways I think he values input and weighs it across the org. And yeah I think Clifford's perspective is highly valued - Cho hired the guy and won success with the guy. If Clifford is partial to shooting and size and vocal about it, I think it speaks to Stauskas imo or I hope.

Guess I need to educate myself to Northerners.