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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#441 » by spaceballer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:42 pm

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spaceballer wrote:Has anyone been able to pin down the status of the 2nd year, if it's a player option (as many suspect) or not? Who are the usual sources to go to for leaks and confirmation and insider info for the Hornets? Slick Rick seems to be held in low esteem and behind the curve on breaking news, so probably not him, right?

Just saw on /r/nba that it is a player option, as I expected. Signing for two years at that price would have been stupid for Lin.


Figures. Well, if he likes Charlotte and Clifford/Cho as much as he suggested on his FB post, then we should have a good shot at resigning him next year to a fair contract, assuming he plays up to expectations.


Coach will have to make good on his promise to let Lin play his game. Gotta give him decent minutes off the bench and pick-and-rolls. If he gets disillusioned just being a spot-up shooter for Alfense and never getting the ball next to Kemba, just like the situation in Houston, he'll bolt.

But because of the considerable discussions that Lin has had with Cliff before signing, and after carefully considering all his other options, he didn't make this choice lightly. He chose Charlotte over other options paying him more. So I'm optimistic that things will work out, and he might return on a longer term market rate contract if he's happy with his situation here. Assuming he works out and the team wants him back.

A 1yr no-risk tryout for both sides, with the 2nd year option being injury insurance. Hornets get to see if he's a long term piece, or can just part ways with him at the end of the season if it doesn't work. Lin gets to see if he's happy here or wants to go elsewhere if he's disillusioned with his role in the system. Seems like a fair trade, with the Hornets getting the better end of the bargain because Lin is sacrificing larger money deals to come here. Hope the Hornets reward him for the sacrifice by making good on whatever promises they made to lure Lin here in terms or role and minutes, and possibly be able to keep him long term on a fair market deal next summer.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#442 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:43 pm

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spaceballer wrote:This thread has only been up for 2 days and it already has 10K views. It'll be most viewed thread here pretty soon at this rate. :lol:


Nothing beats the original Cathouse thread. That thread had an insane number of page views and for good reason. Shocked the LadyCats/HoneyBees thread isnt #2 all-time.


I just bumped the original Cathouse thread. It has 183,000 page views. That's nuts for a forum with this level of traffic.


Traffic on here has picked up immensely lately it seems like. I can't keep up with all the new faces.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#443 » by spaceballer » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:48 pm

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Nothing beats the original Cathouse thread. That thread had an insane number of page views and for good reason. Shocked the LadyCats/HoneyBees thread isnt #2 all-time.


I just bumped the original Cathouse thread. It has 183,000 page views. That's nuts for a forum with this level of traffic.


Traffic on here has picked up immensely lately it seems like. I can't keep up with all the new faces.


That's a good thing, right? The Hornets sub on reddit said they used to have like 1 new post a week and went 10 games with no game thread, with only like a resident population of 10 or so regulars, with people answering their own questions :lol: And now that place has a huge influx of traffic.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#444 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:49 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:
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I just bumped the original Cathouse thread. It has 183,000 page views. That's nuts for a forum with this level of traffic.


Traffic on here has picked up immensely lately it seems like. I can't keep up with all the new faces.


That's a good thing, right? The Hornets sub on reddit said they used to have like 1 new post a week and went 10 games with no game thread, with only like a resident population of 10 or so regulars :lol: And now that place has a huge influx of traffic.


It's great. As long as it doesn't get crazy like the Raptor board, and that's almost impossible. Madness over there.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#445 » by Flip Murray » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:50 pm

MeowsALot wrote:new member here, I am a Lin fan. at first I wasn't too excited about the Hornets, since I do not know anything about them but after reading that him and the coach seem like it better fit than his old coaches I grew optimistic. Plus, the board seems pretty friendly.

As for his reasons to join Charlotte - I think as someone said, maybe he did not want the spotlight nor the high expectations. Now he has gone from overrated to underrated. Glad he made a decision for himself and not for the money or glory.I expect and hope lin to get around 28 minutes.

My thoughts about Kemba - I thought he improved a lot last season? I know some people comment on his overall career FG but wasn't his last season pretty good? I don't follow him but I did look him up at one point.

Also, can someone give me the quick breakdown about Al? Seems to me the board generally dislikes him lol, why is that?

Look forward to watching hornets games, and also HAPPY that I don't have to stay up late to watch those atrocious laker games.


What's up? Welcome to the fam.

Kemba missed probably, what, 20 games or so last season and I think his numbers were pretty much right around his career averages. Obviously most here know that he has to improve and in my opinion this is a make or break season for him in the sense that he is now on a team that makes a little more sense from a roster-building perspective and he has at least competent shooters around him. So many times he ends up with the ball in his hands and the shot clock running out just because we are so damn stagnant. He's a decent player but I'm looking for him to elevate his game this year.

Al is sort of a mystery/wildcard to me at this point. Here's the bad - he's fatter than Aunt Jemima's even fatter sister. He didn't move well at all last year because of it and became a detriment really at both ends of the floor. His defense is honestly atrocious he hates to move his feet and often just lazily swipes at the ball. On offense we sort of built around him last year which slows down our pace and doesn't make any sense given some of our young guys (MKG, Zeller, Kemba) who would thrive in transition. He's also had trouble passing out of double teams and definitely can be a ball-stopper. Also can be a disaster in pick and roll by being a soft screen setter. Here's the good - this dude was an all-NBA level player just one season ago. He was injured last year which may have contributed to his weight and he's in a contract year so I expect him to come out "hungry". He's a guy that you can throw it to in the post and he will legitimately command a double team. Can put the biscuit in the basket there's no denying it. He's also a pretty good rebounder and from all accounts a very good teammate. Again this is a make or break season for him sort of like Kemba. If he comes out a lean, mean, fighting machine with the form of two seasons ago we are winning a playoff game - mark my words on that.

That said, it may not be a great time to be following the Hornets but its certainly an interesting time. This thing could go either way - total disaster or glorious success (we win 1 playoff game is success). Should be exciting.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#446 » by Joest2003 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:53 pm

Over under on how many times Martin confuses Lin and Lamb. Id say about 250 times this season.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#447 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:55 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Over under on how many times Martin confuses Lin and Lamb. Id say about 250 times this season.


He was basicall fired. He does radio though.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#448 » by HornetJail » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:56 pm

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Joest2003 wrote:Over under on how many times Martin confuses Lin and Lamb. Id say about 250 times this season.


He was basicall fired. He does radio though.

Have we found out who's taking his place yet?
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#449 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:57 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Over under on how many times Martin confuses Lin and Lamb. Id say about 250 times this season.


He was basicall fired. He does radio though.

Have we found out who's taking his place yet?


I don't think so. To be honest I forgot all about that.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#450 » by kastuul » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Lin's second year will be PLAYER OPTION

Coach’s Ideal Model to Teach Pick-and-Roll
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/sports/ncaabasketball/coach-uses-lin-as-model-for-teaching-pick-and-roll.html?_r=2
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#451 » by LofJ » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:04 pm

My motto about half way through last season was anything but the 7th seed. Injuries to MKG and Zeller ended up taking care of that. I suspect my motto this year will be anything but the 8th seed. I hope the additions of Lin, Batum, Lamb, Hawes, and Kaminsky will be enough to both make the playoffs AND avoid playing the eventual conference champion in the first round.

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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#452 » by Joest2003 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:04 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Joest2003 wrote:Over under on how many times Martin confuses Lin and Lamb. Id say about 250 times this season.


He was basicall fired. He does radio though.


Damm forrreal? Do you know why?
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#453 » by yosemiteben » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:04 pm

kastuul wrote:Lin's second year will be PLAYER OPTION

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Post#454 » by HornetJail » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:06 pm

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Post#455 » by Flip Murray » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:09 pm

Creating open looks for three point shooters might be the biggest positive of the Jeremy Lin signing.

Here's an interesting article from Kirk Goldsberry that came out today. He basically talks about how important creating open looks is and gives some examples like Vince Carter suddenly shooting 30% on Memphis after shooting 40% on Dallas.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-nba-free-agency-3-point-shooter-danny-green-demarre-carroll/

We know Lin can get to the rim so that should be very helpful breaking down a defense to open up some actual opportunities for our shooters.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#456 » by 13th Man » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:20 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
spaceballer wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Traffic on here has picked up immensely lately it seems like. I can't keep up with all the new faces.


That's a good thing, right? The Hornets sub on reddit said they used to have like 1 new post a week and went 10 games with no game thread, with only like a resident population of 10 or so regulars :lol: And now that place has a huge influx of traffic.


It's great. As long as it doesn't get crazy like the Raptor board, and that's almost impossible. Madness over there.


Hahahaha, Raptors fans are hilarious, I'm Canadian so I know :)
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Post#457 » by AustinPowers » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:32 pm

Flip Murray wrote:Creating open looks for three point shooters might be the biggest positive of the Jeremy Lin signing.

Here's an interesting article from Kirk Goldsberry that came out today. He basically talks about how important creating open looks is and gives some examples like Vince Carter suddenly shooting 30% on Memphis after shooting 40% on Dallas.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-nba-free-agency-3-point-shooter-danny-green-demarre-carroll/

We know Lin can get to the rim so that should be very helpful breaking down a defense to open up some actual opportunities for our shooters.


Yep. One thing that's insinuated in Goldsberry's piece but not explicitly detailed is the interaction between the slashing ballhandler and the spot up guy. One of Lin's achilles heels is driving into no man's land in the paint. Maybe he gets tripled, maybe he ends up in the air with nowhere to pass. However, you need coordination with the shooter to slide with the drive and be available for the corner 3 when the D collapses. Picture those Lebron drives where he's 3 ft beyond the baseline mid-jump and Shumpert has "followed" him to the opposite corner. I always felt like many Laker spot up guys (Swaggy, Ellington, etc) ball watched and didn't find the sweet spot for the kickout. Elite spot up guys (like Ariza) have elite arc awareness too IMO.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#458 » by fatlever » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:33 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:
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Nothing beats the original Cathouse thread. That thread had an insane number of page views and for good reason. Shocked the LadyCats/HoneyBees thread isnt #2 all-time.


I just bumped the original Cathouse thread. It has 183,000 page views. That's nuts for a forum with this level of traffic.


Traffic on here has picked up immensely lately it seems like. I can't keep up with all the new faces.


I've seen at least 10 newly registered Lin fans since the signing. Just curious as to why they waited until now to sign up? Why not sign up when he went to Lakers or Rockets?

Anyway, I won't bother learning too much about the new faces until we see who sticks around and who will disappear in a month. I will get excited if we see half the new Lin posters still here in November when the season starts. I hope they all stick around.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#459 » by fatlever » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:36 pm

Any objections to naming this thread "The Green Hornet: Jeremy Lin Thread"?
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Jeremy Lin 

Post#460 » by sirdeadcat » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:47 pm

kastuul wrote:Lin's second year will be PLAYER OPTION

Coach’s Ideal Model to Teach Pick-and-Roll
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/sports/ncaabasketball/coach-uses-lin-as-model-for-teaching-pick-and-roll.html?_r=2


Correct me if I'm wrong. But this is probably why Lin turned down MLE money. MLE has to be for 3 years right?

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