Offseason 2025 Thread

[Bassman]

MI, who would you be sending to the Nets for either Claxton or Johnson?

Not sure either player is a major difference maker. Understand why you propose it…I’d just prefer dealing with the Spurs to get the #2 for Harper,. Or perhaps a major deal trade back with Utah for Lauri, sending Miles & Green plus future picks while still having the 5th selection. Otherwise just keep our #4.

[MasterIchiro]

MI, who would you be sending to the Nets for either Claxton or Johnson?

Not sure either player is a major difference maker. Understand why you propose it…I’d just prefer dealing with the Spurs to get the #2 for Harper,. Or perhaps a major deal trade back with Utah for Lauri, sending Miles & Green plus future picks while still having the 5th selection. Otherwise just keep our #4.

I prefer dealing with the Spurs but not at any cost. Willing to move off LaMelo if the transaction has Harper incoming. Then I would just stick with Mark as a development prospect.

If I want to pivot, I send Nurkic expiring for matching purposes for Claxton and if I can swap Miles for Cam Johnson, I expand it. I'm wanting 8 + 19 in either scenario.

So either I'm buying the draft's top playmaker or selling Fears for the teams like the Nets bidding on his upside, and taking the next best playmaker Jaku as LaMelo's secondary playmaker and potential longterm primary playmaker should we sell LaMelo down the road.

**** or get off the pot with PG and C.

[JMAC3]

I think something this team is lacking is an identity more than anything. We probably lack the pieces to ever be a Thunder type of defense so maybe we are better off just picking our own narrative instead of half assing it with poor personnel and expecting it to work in our favor.

[Snidely FC]

seems a small detail but if the team is keeping Melo I would trade for Lonzo Ball, who has emerged from the chronic injury tunnel in a way that I think could be a team leader for this young roster and help Melo mature

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all really going to let Lavar dictate what this franchise does smh

Let this Ball brothers stuff go. Neither are trustworthy health wise. LaMelo hasn't even proved he can win there is no way we should be asking him about what he wants.

Lavar is a clown let him continue to wish for his boys to play somewhere other than Charlotte. He already made it clear he wants them on the Clippers not Charlotte.

[yosemiteben]

Y'all really going to let Lavar dictate what this franchise does smh

Did you not advocate for doing this exact thing like five minutes ago?

If Lavar is going to be toxic we might as well move on.

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all really going to let Lavar dictate what this franchise does smh

Did you not advocate for doing this exact thing like five minutes ago?

If Lavar is going to be toxic we might as well move on.

No y'all was on the LaMelo/Lonzo team up. I was against it then over time I became ok with doing it. I never actively pushed for Lonzo.

Now that the dad is back talking I'm against it. Lavar is toxic and he can cause friction with this franchise.


Also Lonzo also pushed for LaMelo to the Clippers. These dudes clearly want LA. This isn't just talk.

[yosemiteben]

Y'all really going to let Lavar dictate what this franchise does smh

Did you not advocate for doing this exact thing like five minutes ago?

If Lavar is going to be toxic we might as well move on.

No y'all was on the LaMelo/Lonzo team up. I was against it then over time I became ok with doing it. I never actively pushed for Lonzo.

Now that the dad is back talking I'm against it.

So you wanted something / became ok with something, but now that's change only because of Lavar. That is letting him dictate what we do.

[Liver_Pooty]

I could give two **** what Lavar wants but I want Lonzo as a legit backup PG. or Tre jones. Or tyus jones. Or anyone.

[JustBuzzin]

Did you not advocate for doing this exact thing like five minutes ago?

No y'all was on the LaMelo/Lonzo team up. I was against it then over time I became ok with doing it. I never actively pushed for Lonzo.

Now that the dad is back talking I'm against it.

So you wanted something / became ok with something, but now that's change only because of Lavar. That is letting him dictate what we do.

I mentioned this when I first saw the Lonzo comments. I said at that time I was off the idea of bringing Lonzo in. I don't want anyone who doesn't want to be here.

We don't need unnecessary drama with this franchise. Lavar is clearly back in his toxic dad mode. He wants his kids in LA.

I'm not saying trade LaMelo, im saying stay away from Lonzo and his dad. They already made it clear they both want LaMelo in LA.

[JustBuzzin]

I could give two **** what Lavar wants but I want Lonzo as a legit backup PG. or Tre jones. Or tyus jones. Or anyone.

Yeah Melo plays 40 games and Lonzo can play the other 40 games that way we get a combined 80 games out of the Ball bros.

[JMAC3]

I could give two **** what Lavar wants but I want Lonzo as a legit backup PG. or Tre jones. Or tyus jones. Or anyone.

Yeah Melo plays 40 games and Lonzo can play the other 40 games that way we get a combined 80 games out of the Ball bros.

You can't have the attitude of Melo sucks, but also not want to trade unless you can get back Dylan Harper though.

[Braggins]

The problem with trading for Lonzo is figuring out his value. I assume the Bulls would probably want one of Charlottes early 2nds for him because if he is healthy and plays he is easily worth that much. However, he only played 35 games last season after sitting out for 2.5 years. There is still a very solid chance that whoever ends up with him going forward gets basically zero value out of him. If they traded Green or Okogie and #34 for him and he plays 20 games next season and then has to retire for medical reason that would actually be a pretty terrible trade for the Hornets.

[JMAC3]

The problem with trading for Lonzo is figuring out his value. I assume the Bulls would probably want one of Charlottes early 2nds for him because if he is healthy and plays he is easily worth that much. However, he only played 35 games last season after sitting out for 2.5 years. There is still a very solid chance that whoever ends up with him going forward gets basically zero value out of him. If they traded Green or Okogie and #34 for him and he plays 20 games next season and then has to retire for medical reason that would actually be a pretty terrible trade for the Hornets.

I would offer 34 and Josh Green for Lonzo. Lonzo deal is unguaranteed next year so at the very worst you are paying to get off of 1 year of Josh Green salary.

[HornetJail]

The problem with trading for Lonzo is figuring out his value. I assume the Bulls would probably want one of Charlottes early 2nds for him because if he is healthy and plays he is easily worth that much. However, he only played 35 games last season after sitting out for 2.5 years. There is still a very solid chance that whoever ends up with him going forward gets basically zero value out of him. If they traded Green or Okogie and #34 for him and he plays 20 games next season and then has to retire for medical reason that would actually be a pretty terrible trade for the Hornets.

I would offer 34 and Josh Green for Lonzo. Lonzo deal is unguaranteed next year so at the very worst you are paying to get off of 1 year of Josh Green salary.

agreed but I think good luck convincing the Bulls to do it, they probably want to see some actual payoff from sitting through 3 years of Lonzo on the sidelines, and are probably going to want more than neutral value unfortunately

[JMAC3]

The problem with trading for Lonzo is figuring out his value. I assume the Bulls would probably want one of Charlottes early 2nds for him because if he is healthy and plays he is easily worth that much. However, he only played 35 games last season after sitting out for 2.5 years. There is still a very solid chance that whoever ends up with him going forward gets basically zero value out of him. If they traded Green or Okogie and #34 for him and he plays 20 games next season and then has to retire for medical reason that would actually be a pretty terrible trade for the Hornets.

I would offer 34 and Josh Green for Lonzo. Lonzo deal is unguaranteed next year so at the very worst you are paying to get off of 1 year of Josh Green salary.

agreed but I think good luck convincing the Bulls to do it, they probably want to see some actual payoff from sitting through 3 years of Lonzo on the sidelines, and are probably going to want more than neutral value unfortunately

What is the best offer someone is going to give them? I don't think any team is giving up a first round pick for Lonzo.
So the best offer is a high 2nd and expiring? Green and 34 isn't too far from that.

but yeah I am whatever on Lonzo, I think overall I would be happy with trade because he seems a bit more mature than Melo and he compliments Melo in backcourt with being a more stout defender. Or he could be hurt and basically give us nothing- which is also very likely for the 34th pick, as 2nds bust at a high rate.

The issue with the trade is that I don't think Lonzo would be a starter and that would likely be an annoying side effect of the trade with all the fan boys telling us that so and so shouldn't start.

[MasterIchiro]

I wouldn't mind throwing a bone to the Ball family and reuniting Lonzo with Melo. But I'd definitely play Lonzo off the bench alongside Tre Mann.

The Hornets are no more Lonzo's team than the Bulls. He's a bench piece. He has no stake to a starting gig anywhere.

I'd offer Okogie (can be non-guaranteed after the draft) for Lonzo or for Hauser. I'd add 34.

The savings for either team should be a factor. And I don't think the Celtics nor Bulls can return a high 2nd round pick for either player they're selling.

[yosemiteben]

The problem with trading for Lonzo is figuring out his value. I assume the Bulls would probably want one of Charlottes early 2nds for him because if he is healthy and plays he is easily worth that much. However, he only played 35 games last season after sitting out for 2.5 years. There is still a very solid chance that whoever ends up with him going forward gets basically zero value out of him. If they traded Green or Okogie and #34 for him and he plays 20 games next season and then has to retire for medical reason that would actually be a pretty terrible trade for the Hornets.

I would offer 34 and Josh Green for Lonzo. Lonzo deal is unguaranteed next year so at the very worst you are paying to get off of 1 year of Josh Green salary.

Agreed, this makes a ton of sense to me.

Who knows what the actual state of things is in Chicago. It seemed very strange that they gave him that extension, with quotes coming out about how great of a leader and locker room guy he was, and then almost immediately rumors showed up about the Bulls trying to move him.

It also was truly bizarre how matter of fact Lavar was about "help being on the way" (seemingly about Lonzo) right before he got the extension.

[Braggins]

I would like to get Ball but I don't want to give up anything of real value for him. There is a good chance Okogie and Green are going to bring more value over the next two years. I wanted to use Cody Martin's contract for him last trade deadline since Martin is a bit older and also has serious injury history. If the goal is trying to get better next year it seems too risky to me to trade any viable rotation player for a player who has played 35 total games in the last four seasons.

[Diop]

i thought Dallas had Lonzo on their want list. He fits well next to Kyrie when he returns