The Nik Stauskas Thread

[yosemiteben]

#457 Re: The Nik Stauskas Thread

I'll say it again: if we don't get Stauskas I'll just die.

[MasterIchiro]

Or proclaiming to know something about a situation that you honestly have no freaking idea about. No one knows what Cho is thinking, or what is going to occur. For all we know that pick is getting traded. This "I am almost certain were getting Harris" "Were not interested in Lavine or Young" just wreaks of something Chris Broussard would do or something. It wears on you after a while.

Like I said, just the way Yankees present language in a debate format. He frames the debate to his extreme so that when you press him or state your case, he then fills in supporting details for his extreme stance. It's hard to get him to think your way as a result. Yankees have alot of conviction once they get their mind set on something. I suspect Mr KIA erroneously views Cho like Cho's a Yankee and gets stuck on players. Cho is not so set in his ways I think he values input and weighs it across the org. And yeah I think Clifford's perspective is highly valued - Cho hired the guy and won success with the guy. If Clifford is partial to shooting and size and vocal about it, I think it speaks to Stauskas imo or I hope.

Guess I need to educate myself to Northerners.

Small doses, my prescription.

[MasterIchiro]

"Yankeees" do not all debate or think the same way. "Southerners" do not all debate or think the same way. Characterizing the logic and debate style of people based on where they come from is pretty asinine.

language and communication is very cultural and part of subculture. I agree that not all Yankees talk like Mr. Know it all and not all Yankees are know-it-alls just like not all Southerners are apathetic or chill.

Anyways, Mr. Knowitall favors the high upside guys and he's convinced Cho gets stuck on stable commodities. I contend Cho is open to input throughout the org and so is Jordan.

[JDR720]

Nik is more northern than all most all of us, he says "Eh" i bet

[yosemiteben]

[TheKingofSting2]

If he looked so good in his workout then hopefully Cliff can mask his bad defense.

[Radu_Hornets]

The more I think about our pick the more I want Stauskas...

[Benjamin Linus]

I've made the switch from LaVine to Stauskas. After watching the Spurs carve it up, give me someone who has a high BBIQ that can shoot and pass.

[MasterIchiro]

I just thought of something. Stauskas is working out for the Celtics but obviously they won't take him at 6. But they're looking at PF's at 6 and have Sullinger + pick 17. They could package that to move up with the Kings at 8.

At 6 the Celtics will be able to draft Randle, Gordon or Vonleh.

Let's say Vonleh goes to the Jazz, Celtics select Randle. Then the Celtics package Sullinger + pick 17 for Kings pick 8.

Celtics select Stauskas at 8.

Celtics walk away from the draft with Julius Randle + Nik Stauskas.

Kings walk away with Sullinger + Ennis.

[MasterIchiro]

Or the Celtics could draft Smart at 6 and trade Rondo to the Kings for 8 + McLemore + future 1st

Celtics take Stauskas at 8.

PG-Marcus Smart/Bradley
SG-Nik Stauskas/McLemore
SF-Jeff Green
PF-Jared Sullinger/Olnyk
C-Greg Monroe

Plus pick 17 + Nets future pick + Kings future pick

[BeesWax]

Or the Celtics could draft Smart at 6 and trade Rondo to the Kings for 8 + McLemore + future 1st

Celtics take Stauskas at 8.

PG-Marcus Smart/Bradley
SG-Nik Stauskas/McLemore
SF-Jeff Green
PF-Jared Sullinger/Olnyk
C-Greg Monroe

Plus pick 17 + Nets future pick + Kings future pick

In this case McBuckets would make more sense.

[MasterIchiro]

Or the Celtics could draft Smart at 6 and trade Rondo to the Kings for 8 + McLemore + future 1st

Celtics take Stauskas at 8.

PG-Marcus Smart/Bradley
SG-Nik Stauskas/McLemore
SF-Jeff Green
PF-Jared Sullinger/Olnyk
C-Greg Monroe

Plus pick 17 + Nets future pick + Kings future pick

In this case McBuckets would make more sense.

Not if they need to use McLemore in a sign & trade for Monroe.

[BeesWax]

Or the Celtics could draft Smart at 6 and trade Rondo to the Kings for 8 + McLemore + future 1st

Celtics take Stauskas at 8.

PG-Marcus Smart/Bradley
SG-Nik Stauskas/McLemore
SF-Jeff Green
PF-Jared Sullinger/Olnyk
C-Greg Monroe

Plus pick 17 + Nets future pick + Kings future pick

In this case McBuckets would make more sense.

Not if they need to use McLemore in a sign & trade for Monroe.

Well then he would not be in the lineup with Monroe. Oh and I would love to play against this team nightly as we could score 150 due to no post defense and two starting rookies.

[MasterIchiro]

In this case McBuckets would make more sense.

Not if they need to use McLemore in a sign & trade for Monroe.

Well then he would not be in the lineup with Monroe. Oh and I would love to play against this team nightly as we could score 150 due to no post defense and two starting rookies.

Well you don't know who they pick with 17 and how they use their own pick 2015 + future Nets pick. They have plenty of young talent on that team, cap space and room to grow.

[BeesWax]

Not if they need to use McLemore in a sign & trade for Monroe.

Well then he would not be in the lineup with Monroe. Oh and I would love to play against this team nightly as we could score 150 due to no post defense and two starting rookies.

Well you don't know who they pick with 17 and how they use their own pick 2015 + future Nets pick. They have plenty of young talent on that team, cap space and room to grow.

What I was saying is your team you showed is terrible at defense and while yes being very young they would be a bottom feeder without some MAJOR upgrades. Also you showed both Monroe and McLemore on the team at the same time which makes McBuckets a better draft option at 9 for them. The other teams would never have to shoot a three because they could score at a 65% clip against the weak inside defense that team has. I know you love Monroe but he may be a worse defender that Al.

[MasterIchiro]

Well then he would not be in the lineup with Monroe. Oh and I would love to play against this team nightly as we could score 150 due to no post defense and two starting rookies.

Well you don't know who they pick with 17 and how they use their own pick 2015 + future Nets pick. They have plenty of young talent on that team, cap space and room to grow.

What I was saying is your team you showed is terrible at defense and while yes being very young they would be a bottom feeder without some MAJOR upgrades. Also you showed both Monroe and McLemore on the team at the same time which makes McBuckets a better draft option at 9 for them. The other teams would never have to shoot a three because they could score at a 65% clip against the weak inside defense that team has. I know you love Monroe but he may be a worse defender that Al.

Do you or do you not understand it's not a finished team? I left McLemore because maybe he's needed for sign and trade but maybe not.

My point is they can draft Stauskas and Smart if they want to.

[BeesWax]

Well you don't know who they pick with 17 and how they use their own pick 2015 + future Nets pick. They have plenty of young talent on that team, cap space and room to grow.

What I was saying is your team you showed is terrible at defense and while yes being very young they would be a bottom feeder without some MAJOR upgrades. Also you showed both Monroe and McLemore on the team at the same time which makes McBuckets a better draft option at 9 for them. The other teams would never have to shoot a three because they could score at a 65% clip against the weak inside defense that team has. I know you love Monroe but he may be a worse defender that Al.

Do you or do you not understand it's not a finished team? I left McLemore because maybe he's needed for sign and trade but maybe not.

My point is they can draft Stauskas and Smart if they want to.

Do you or do you not understand that as the team is constructed Mcbuckets would be a better pick. They could take Leslie McDonald and Andre Dawkins if they wanted. I am simply saying as you put the team out there another pick makes more sense.

Also if you paid for Monroe he is starting and Sullinger they are high on so the interior defense would be abysmal no matter how you finish it off. It would be a fun team to watch because they would have to try to put up major points because you know they are giving up a ton.

[MPM]

Interesting statistical analysis of the draft's crop of SG's on DX:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jus ... -Crop-4608

Interesting note on Stauskas' true shooting percentage:

"Neither Spencer Dinwiddie nor Nik Stauskas ranked all that high in overall scoring rate, but they were both tremendously efficient last season thanks to how frequently they drew free throws and made perimeter shots relative to their overall usage rates. A 65% true shooting percentage is simply off the charts, and Stauskas being able to do so over the course of an entire season, while being a primary option in the toughest conference in college basketball, is extremely noteworthy."

[MasterIchiro]

Interesting statistical analysis of the draft's crop of SG's on DX:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jus ... -Crop-4608

Interesting note on Stauskas' true shooting percentage:

"Neither Spencer Dinwiddie nor Nik Stauskas ranked all that high in overall scoring rate, but they were both tremendously efficient last season thanks to how frequently they drew free throws and made perimeter shots relative to their overall usage rates. A 65% true shooting percentage is simply off the charts, and Stauskas being able to do so over the course of an entire season, while being a primary option in the toughest conference in college basketball, is extremely noteworthy."

I think that stat is as strong an indicator as any that Stauskas' skill will translate to the NBA. You look at the pure scorers in this draft and aside from Parker we've already worked out much of the upper echelon - Stauskas, McDermott, Warren. I do feel Stauskas has the ability to make as much immediate impact as any player in the draft.

I think we're going to make a wise selection.

[UNCNYC]

I really like this kid and think we should draft him at 9 if Gordon is still on the board I would go with him, other than that I think we should take Nik S