The Nik Stauskas Thread

EwingSweatsALot · Post #481 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:45 am

WTF Cho?!?!?!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NStauskas11/status/479423424754749442[/tweet]

Bassman · Post #482 » by **Bassman** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:35 am

If we cannot trade up to get Vonleh, I am.sold on Stauskas as the right choice at 9 (ahead of McBuckets). This presumes Randle does not slide to 9, which would give me significant pause. I like McDermott but Stauskas has the tools, shot and size for the league. Not sure his D will ever be sufficient, but nobody at 9 is without warts. He has more potential to improve there at SG than McBuckets does at SF.

SeanBobcats · Post #483 » by **SeanBobcats** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:51 am

EwingSweatsALot wrote:WTF Cho?!?!?!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NStauskas11/status/479423424754749442[/tweet]

I kinda hope we asked him this. Maybe it means we like him

tmorgan · Post #484 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:34 am

All I'll say is this -- if we'd kept the pick (8th), with our roster, I think Stauskas (or McDermott) would have been a poor choice.

We didn't keep it, and I hope you draft Nik and he turns into an awesome player. It might have been too much pressure in Detroit, but your young-ish team could be the perfect fit for him.

Hard, HARD worker. Better athlete than you think. Ridiculously quick release. Will pull up on you AND hesitation dribble by you. Makes the right pass pretty consistently. Plays with some fire. Yeah, his defense pretty much stinks, but that's really the only negative.

Make Nik the pick indeed.

MasterIchiro · Post #485 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:59 am

tmorgan wrote:All I'll say is this -- if we'd kept the pick (8th), with our roster, I think Stauskas (or McDermott) would have been a poor choice.

We didn't keep it, and I hope you draft Nik and he turns into an awesome player. It might have been too much pressure in Detroit, but your young-ish team could be the perfect fit for him.

Hard, HARD worker. Better athlete than you think. Ridiculously quick release. Will pull up on you AND hesitation dribble by you. Makes the right pass pretty consistently. Plays with some fire. Yeah, his defense pretty much stinks, but that's really the only negative.

Make Nik the pick indeed.

On a team in desperate need of floor spacing (as desperate as we are), who would you have considered a good choice if not the best 2 shooters in this draft?

countryboi · Post #486 » by **countryboi** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:05 pm

I think I am going to change my pick to Nik...this kid matches our issues too well, he really is the only choice

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #487 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:19 pm

I'm firmly on the Nik bandwagon but I'm wondering what the track record of bad college defenders getting better in the NBA vs bad college offensive players getting better in the NBA. Kwhai is an example of the latter. Do we have good examples of the former? Overall statistical data?

mrknowitall215 · Post #488 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:47 pm

Nik Stauskas

High-end: Klay Thompson. Both are big-time shooters who possess a high IQ and can do a little bit of everything. Thompson has averaged 17.8 points over his first three NBA seasons, which may be difficult for Stauskas to match.

Low-end: J.J. Redick. Stauskas should be more than just a piece and a one-dimensional shooter like Redick, but this is likely his floor. Redick has averaged a shade below double figures over his NBA career, but is one of the best pure long-range shooters in the league.

BeesWax · Post #489 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:26 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Nik Stauskas

High-end: Klay Thompson. Both are big-time shooters who possess a high IQ and can do a little bit of everything. Thompson has averaged 17.8 points over his first three NBA seasons, which may be difficult for Stauskas to match.

Low-end: J.J. Redick. Stauskas should be more than just a piece and a one-dimensional shooter like Redick, but this is likely his floor. Redick has averaged a shade below double figures over his NBA career, but is one of the best pure long-range shooters in the league.

This for me is the best ceiling floor combination. Good quality high ceiling and a nice high floor.

SeanBobcats · Post #490 » by **SeanBobcats** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:35 pm

The more I watch him the more I want him. Pls Charlotte #MakeNikThePick

SeanBobcats · Post #491 » by **SeanBobcats** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:38 pm

For anyone worried about Nik's defense, I think he really can get better at it. Before he gained that strength and athleticism he was pretty weak with average athleticism. I think his was bad at defense at that time because he didn't have the tools, so he never really worked on becoming a good defender. Now that he has the physical tools, he can use this offseason to improve on his defense as well as maybe put on a little more strength.

tmorgan · Post #492 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:43 pm

SeanBobcats wrote:For anyone worried about Nik's defense, I think he really can get better at it. Before he gained that strength and athleticism he was pretty weak with average athleticism. I think his was bad at defense at that time because he didn't have the tools, so he never really worked on becoming a good defender. Now that he has the physical tools, he can use this offseason to improve on his defense as well as maybe put on a little more strength.

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. He's just not quick without the ball -- at all. He can beat you with the ball in his hands because he's skilled and he's the one who knows where the ball is going, but when the shoe is on the other foot Nik's shoes are made of cement.

I believe he can learn team defense to the point of being adequate, but expecting more than that (on the NBA level) is really pushing it. Then again, if Draymond Green is considered good defensively now, I guess anything's possible (except that Draymond always had the size, and Nik is never going to have great reach).

Crossroads24 · Post #493 » by **Crossroads24** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:43 pm

Yeah, considering our needs I'll take a low-end of JJ Redick any day.

Of the guys we're supposedly looking at I like Staukas' high-end low-end combo the best. The McBuckets = Szczerbiak comparison is the most accurate, and the Joe Dumars = Gary Harris comparison is the most intriguing, but Stauskas' seems the safest.

tmorgan · Post #494 » by **tmorgan** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:47 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:On a team in desperate need of floor spacing (as desperate as we are), who would you have considered a good choice if not the best 2 shooters in this draft?

I still believe the draft is 8-deep on talent I really like, so passing on someone such as Smart, Randle, Vonleh, or maybe even Gordon for a scorer that might not translate (McBuckets or Nik) seemed like a mistake to me.

I probably would have talked myself into Stauskas being OK at #8 as long as we weren't passing on Smart. McDermott I like a lot less, as he has no one to guard at all and lots of his offense game may not translate. Watching Dougie try to use his post game on NBA 3's or 4's is going to be comical.

mrknowitall215 · Post #495 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:52 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:On a team in desperate need of floor spacing (as desperate as we are), who would you have considered a good choice if not the best 2 shooters in this draft?

I personally think this team need more than just floor spacing if they want to really flourish. They need a floor spacer that's even better at scoring point blank period from any area of the floor

BeesWax · Post #496 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:58 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:On a team in desperate need of floor spacing (as desperate as we are), who would you have considered a good choice if not the best 2 shooters in this draft?

I personally think this team need more than just floor spacing if they want to really flourish. They need a floor spacer that's even better at scoring point blank period from any area of the floor

For these reasons I think Nik or McBuckets would be a great choice for us. Both can score off the bounce or shooting. McBuckets has a better post game while Nik is a better creator for teammates.

mrknowitall215 · Post #497 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:01 pm

jdm3 wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:On a team in desperate need of floor spacing (as desperate as we are), who would you have considered a good choice if not the best 2 shooters in this draft?

I personally think this team need more than just floor spacing if they want to really flourish. They need a floor spacer that's even better at scoring point blank period from any area of the floor

For these reasons I think Nik or McBuckets would be a great choice for us. Both can score off the bounce or shooting. McBuckets has a better post game while Nik is a better creator for teammates.

Both would be solid & safe picks that I doubt would leave Charlotte with much regret if other wings behind them end up better

TheKingofSting2 · Post #498 » by **TheKingofSting2** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:09 am

Nik got a shoutout on SportsCenter from Jeff Goodman as a fast riser up the boards. He also thinks Parker will go #1 now FWIW.

Liver_Pooty · Post #499 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:18 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Nik got a shoutout on SportsCenter from Jeff Goodman as a fast riser up the boards. He also thinks Parker will go #1 now FWIW.

Hes been top 11 on most boards, how much farther can he go? Surely he cant go top 7..

TheKingofSting2 · Post #500 » by **TheKingofSting2** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:27 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
TheKingofSting wrote:Nik got a shoutout on SportsCenter from Jeff Goodman as a fast riser up the boards. He also thinks Parker will go #1 now FWIW.

Hes been top 11 on most boards, how much farther can he go? Surely he cant go top 7..

I'm not sure where Goodman had him originally but he noted that Nik was not a top 100 recruit out of hs.